My Heart Is That Eternal Rose (1989)

[Chopstick]

Up for pre-order at Vinegar Syndrome.

[spannick]

what we got here in the glorious remastered Blu is:

picture cropped: from an 1.78 formatted print, which was matted to 1.85, then again cropped print to 1.78. Picture loss on all four sides.

end song digitally replaced and new explosion effects BUM BUM BUM added. (Cantonese only, Mandarin has original audio there, Canto song also)

a somewhat nasty looking yellow tint.

all this compared to the HK Blu, which had the original mono Cantonese buried inside the True HD 5.1 crap.

[The Mole]

Just compared the Vinegar Syndrome BD to the remastered Mei Ah DVD from 2008. Also switched a bit back and forth between the Cantonese and the Mandarin tracks on the BD.

1. No cropping per se on the BD but just a different framing. Sometimes the BD shows less information, sometimes it shows more than the DVD.

2. I could not discover any new explosions or other audio effects added on the Cantonese track. It just generally sounds way more muffled than the Mandarin track.

3. No replaced end song (again: it just sounds way more muffled on the Cantones track than on the Mandarin track).

4. There is no consitent yellow tint. The BD is generally way darker than the DVD (which was too bright) and has different filters applied in different scenes. Sometimes yellow, sometimes blue.

[spannick]

Originally Posted by The Mole

Just compared the Vinegar Syndrome BD to the remastered Mei Ah DVD from 2008. Also switched a bit back and forth between the Cantonese and the Mandarin tracks on the BD.

1. No cropping per se on the BD but just a different framing. Sometimes the BD shows less information, sometimes it shows more than the DVD.

2. I could not discover any new explosions or other audio effects added on the Cantonese track. It just generally sounds way more muffled than the Mandarin track.

3. No replaced end song (again: it just sounds way more muffled on the Cantones track than on the Mandarin track).

4. There is no consitent yellow tint. The BD is generally way darker than the DVD (which was too bright) and has different filters applied in different scenes. Sometimes yellow, sometimes blue.

1.) Compare with HK Blu, not DVD
2.) get your ears fixed
3.) get your ears fixed

so be a happy boy (or girl, whatever you desire) now and be happy with the super awesome VS perfect version. To each his own.

[IDidItForTheGold]

Originally Posted by The Mole

2. I could not discover any new explosions or other audio effects added on the Cantonese track. It just generally sounds way more muffled than the Mandarin track.

3. No replaced end song (again: it just sounds way more muffled on the Cantones track than on the Mandarin track).

There is definitely some ****ery going on with those explosions and the Anita Mui song. Whatever hapless technician did this probably figured as well that the song sounds way too muffled and instead included the song from a CD for it to sound better and haphazardly redid the explosions. The Mandarin track sounds as it should sound. Compare the two and there is a very obvious difference.

[Sinister Ash]

I wonder if Radiance will be using the same transfer as VS and have the same cropping issue.

[The Mole]

Originally Posted by Sinister Ash

I wonder if Radiance will be using the same transfer as VS and have the same cropping issue.

There is no cropping issue. The new HD master has a slightly different framing than older releases of the movie, that's all.

[giga204]

HK BD definitely shows more picture information on all sides, but the colors and shadow detail are much better on VS BD.

https://slow.pics/c/SIvasXr7

[WaverBoy]

Originally Posted by giga204

HK BD definitely shows more picture information on all sides, but the colors and shadow detail are much better on VS BD.

https://slow.pics/c/SIvasXr7

No, only the shadow detail is better on the Kani/VS release. The colors are much better on the CN Entertainment Blu; the Kani Blu has a yellow tint. And the CN isn’t cropped. And it has the unreplaced original song at the end on the Cantonese track. And it has original foley effects instead of redone explosion sounds. And the cover art is even better, on both the slipcover and the jacket insert. Luckily I have both releases. The subtitles are better on the Kani Blu, and it has some interesting extras, but it’ll be the CN Blu I pop in to watch the film. A pity that the Kani Blu is a downgrade instead of an improvement.

[WaverBoy]

So, since I already have the HK Blu, I guess I wasted my money ordering the Kani/VS Blu…? Cropped and inferior Cantonese track? It hasn’t arrived yet but now I’m not enthused about it anymore.

[IDidItForTheGold]

The Radiance films release uses the same cropped master as the VS, but restored the original audio at the ending (correct foley, song in mono).

[DooK]

Originally Posted by IDidItForTheGold

The Radiance films release uses the same cropped master as the VS, but restored the original audio at the ending (correct foley, song in mono).

I can live with a master that is a bit cropped (left side is cropped the most). The complete original audio is there so that's a partial improvement to the Kani release.

[WaverBoy]

Originally Posted by IDidItForTheGold

The Radiance films release uses the same cropped master as the VS, but restored the original audio at the ending (correct foley, song in mono).

Sucks that it’s still cropped. Did they fix the colors? Methinks I’ll continue to stick with the HK Blu.

[nicwood]

I got the Radiance release this week. Some of you will probably notice some macroblocking in My Heart is That Eternal Rose even though Fidelity worked on it. This occurs during a scene where a location is completely bathed in red light and the grain structure briefly collapses. I’d bet the same is true for the US disc and maybe that blockiness is even in the master itself, which wouldn’t be the first time this has happened. Other than that, gorgeous presentation and the encode is fantastic.

I have a feeling Mei Ah avoided DNR here because Patrick Tam didn’t supervise the remastering, unlike Nomad. I guess we got lucky.

[qw0aszx]

A new 4K restored version of this film is going to have its premiere at this year’s Hong Kong Film Festival.

Four new 4K restored titles from the collaboration with Hong Kong International Film Festival and M+:
The System (1979) by Peter Yung⁣
The Woman of Wrath (1984) by Tseng Chuang-Hsiang⁣
My Heart is That Eternal Rose (1989) by Patrick Tam⁣
PTU (2003) by Johnnie To⁣

[slask]

Originally Posted by qw0aszx

A new 4K restored version of this film is going to have its premiere at this year’s Hong Kong Film Festival.

Four new 4K restored titles from the collaboration with Hong Kong International Film Festival and M+:
The System (1979) by Peter Yung⁣
The Woman of Wrath (1984) by Tseng Chuang-Hsiang⁣
My Heart is That Eternal Rose (1989) by Patrick Tam⁣
PTU (2003) by Johnnie To⁣

New transfer?
Now I'm on the fence. Radiance LE is going oop, but if there's a chance of a 4K disc I can wait...

[ShawDonkey]

Originally Posted by slask

New transfer?
Now I'm on the fence. Radiance LE is going oop, but if there's a chance of a 4K disc I can wait...

I think your better bet is to go for radiance. Movie is decent but as with 2 recent and 1 older BR disc it has received so far would think it will not get UHD release for some years.

[qw0aszx]

Originally Posted by slask

New transfer?
Now I'm on the fence. Radiance LE is going oop, but if there's a chance of a 4K disc I can wait...

Ok, some sources said it's just the 2K restoration commissioned by Kani upscaling to 4K, so nothing new here...

[slask]

Originally Posted by qw0aszx

Ok, some sources said it's just the 2K restoration commissioned by Kani upscaling to 4K, so nothing new here...

can you provide some links?
if true that’s frustrating… well looks like I’m going for Radiance and call it a day.

[Mr. Odessa]

I'm glad Radiance included the trailer for the movie. I am slightly disappointed in the "Director's Cut" for Nomad. Still things missing and a lot of unnecessary small cuts here and there. I can only hope someone releases the workprint version that I had seen 25 years ago on VHS tape.