All I Desire (1953) / There's Always Tomorrow (1956) coming from Kino - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

roxy1927 · 06-09-2020, 12:50 PM

There's Always Tomorrow is a very bleak film. I don't know if it was a success but it is a dark indictment of the 50s ideal of having a family as the ultimate goal in life and the satisfaction it is supposed to bring. The final image is creepy and it's amazing nobody at the time understood it. Unless of course they did.

James Luckard · 12-11-2021, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfx

I do not know how to post the caps I made for proof of what I found.

The best way to post caps is:

1 - upload the images to a free photo hosting site. Here's one:

https://imgbb.com/upload

2 - once you have them uploaded onto the internet, copy the web address of the actual image by right clicking on it.

3 - Create a post here and add the image. When you write the post, above the box for text will be a series of icons, click this one:

and it will let you paste the web address of the image. It will be a part of your post that way.

Hope that helps.

James Luckard · 12-11-2021, 01:18 PM

Thanks for all the hard work!

I agree, it's tough, different programs can take caps that look a bit different.

I have the Elephant BDs of both titles, and ordered the KL BDs of both titles during their latest sale.

Once they arrive, I'll try to do direct comparison caps of a few shots, taken with the exact same program, so they'll be an exact and direct comparison.

Dailyan · 12-11-2021, 03:37 PM

Either way, both films suffer from using old, mediocre, masters. I have the MoC DVD of "There's Always Tomorrow" and I picked up the Kino Blu during their current sale as I didn't realize MoC's was still one of their PAL-encoded DVDs.

James Luckard · 12-12-2021, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dailyan

Either way, both films suffer from using old, mediocre, masters. I have the MoC DVD of "There's Always Tomorrow" and I picked up the Kino Blu during their current sale as I didn't realize MoC's was still one of their PAL-encoded DVDs.

MoC releases are from the UK, wouldn't all the DVDs be PAL? I only have their BDs, none of their DVDs. (A couple of my BDs do have DVDs included, but I've never touched them.)

Gunsnroses092789 · 12-12-2021, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by James Luckard

MoC releases are from the UK, wouldn't all the DVDs be PAL? I only have their BDs, none of their DVDs. (A couple of my BDs do have DVDs included, but I've never touched them.)

At some point, they did do NTSC releases since all European TVs and DVD players could handle both formats. I'm assuming they did this to avoid PAL speed-up. Not sure which ones are NTSC vs. PAL, but I know their Nightmare Alley is NTSC in its original runtime.

DrTyrell · 01-07-2023, 12:20 PM

Has anyone from Region B tried to play these two titles with the top menu trick? (I have a non-modded Region B Panasonic DP-UB824 and was wondering if these work…)

blakey55 · 01-08-2023, 10:54 AM

drtyrell,i have a non- modded region b panasonic bd30, i have both titles and they play using the top menu trick,hope this helps.

James Luckard · 01-08-2023, 11:17 AM

Just so everyone's aware, I did caps of these, as promised ages ago, but I posted them in the Sirk thread:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...=331495&page=5

Quick summary:

All I Desire -major technical error on KL disc, blacks severely crushed. Same master as French BD, buy that instead.

There's Always Tomorrow - same dated HD master as French disc, again, but file size is twice as big on the KL disc, so compression is much better.

06-09-2020, 12:50 PM	#21
roxy1927 Junior Member Member since:Aug 2018	There's Always Tomorrow is a very bleak film. I don't know if it was a success but it is a dark indictment of the 50s ideal of having a family as the ultimate goal in life and the satisfaction it is supposed to bring. The final image is creepy and it's amazing nobody at the time understood it. Unless of course they did.

12-11-2021, 01:18 PM	#23
James Luckard Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Jan 2011 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:399 Blu-ray collection:1816 Blu-ray reviews: 34	Thanks for all the hard work! I agree, it's tough, different programs can take caps that look a bit different. I have the Elephant BDs of both titles, and ordered the KL BDs of both titles during their latest sale. Once they arrive, I'll try to do direct comparison caps of a few shots, taken with the exact same program, so they'll be an exact and direct comparison.

12-11-2021, 03:37 PM	#24
Dailyan Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Feb 2015 Location:Beyond the Blue Horizon 4K collection:198 Blu-ray collection:2251 DVD collection:197 Blu-ray reviews: 58 Trading Score:56	Either way, both films suffer from using old, mediocre, masters. I have the MoC DVD of "There's Always Tomorrow" and I picked up the Kino Blu during their current sale as I didn't realize MoC's was still one of their PAL-encoded DVDs.

01-07-2023, 12:20 PM	#27
DrTyrell Member Member since:Feb 2020 4K collection:16 Blu-ray collection:78	Has anyone from Region B tried to play these two titles with the top menu trick? (I have a non-modded Region B Panasonic DP-UB824 and was wondering if these work…)

01-08-2023, 10:54 AM	#28
blakey55 Member Member since:Feb 2015	drtyrell,i have a non- modded region b panasonic bd30, i have both titles and they play using the top menu trick,hope this helps.

01-08-2023, 11:17 AM	#29
James Luckard Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Jan 2011 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:399 Blu-ray collection:1816 Blu-ray reviews: 34	Just so everyone's aware, I did caps of these, as promised ages ago, but I posted them in the Sirk thread: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...=331495&page=5 Quick summary: All I Desire -major technical error on KL disc, blacks severely crushed. Same master as French BD, buy that instead. There's Always Tomorrow - same dated HD master as French disc, again, but file size is twice as big on the KL disc, so compression is much better.

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