HDMI Cables

[ProvenFlipper]

Originally Posted by vick vega

What does the net jacket do?

Helps keep cables from getting tangled, at least that's what the manufactures claim.

[Coltsfan]

Man, I've gone thru two cheap HDMI cables for my PS3 and both seem to have quit working on me. Should I try to buy a more expensive cable? I mean, I've spent $30 on cheap cables so far! They work for awhile(a few days) and then I get a blank screen. Thoughts/recomendations?

[ProvenFlipper]

Originally Posted by Coltsfan

Man, I've gone thru two cheap HDMI cables for my PS3 and both seem to have quit working on me. Should I try to buy a more expensive cable? I mean, I've spent $30 on cheap cables so far! They work for awhile(a few days) and then I get a blank screen. Thoughts/recomendations?

I use all Monster cables on my main setup and Best Buy's rocketfish line in my bedroom. So far all of my cables have held up really well. Though I've never tried them, people around here love monoprice.com cables. I'm going to give them a try if I ever need to buy anymore cables.

[jorg]

i would use monster 120$ hdmi cable if u wnat mid rang i would not go any cheaper i have had a teriable past with cheap or "good deal" cables

[Jazar]

Please don't spend a lot of money on HDMI cables. These aren't analog speaker situations. Go to monoprice.com and get some reasonable HDMI cables. You do not have to pay more.

[Coltsfan]

Well I don't think it's the cables anymore. I unplugged my TV and then plugged it back in and was able to view my PS3 on the HDMI channel again. It must be my TV although I don't know why it is doing that. Any ideas?

[Deciazulado]

It may be losing the HDCP "handshake". Things that could work also: turning the TV on/off, changing inputs etc

[helli3yte]

Sorry for the long post but this is what i have. ENOUGH SAID!!!!


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[Damon Payne]

Its digital, although even in the analog domain the benefits would be questionable at best.

Take the internet: do you see corporations installing super high cost CAT5 wire to make their severs run faster? Maybe silver Cat5 wiring would make computers serve web pages faster or be more secure?
Digital communications of these types use cyclic redunacy checks, jitter correction, and other means (mostly based on very simple math and simple bit twiddling) to ensure that the data received is the same as the data sent. The same goes for toslink cables and the like: especially in the short distances we're talking for home theater gear.

[dtrush]

I picked up one off eBay for just less than $9 shipped. I took back my $60 cable when I didn't notice a difference. It's been working great ever since. No quality differences!
I'm running only a Sharp Aquos 37" LCD - 1080i TV so I'm not sure any higher quality cable is needed. If I had a 1080p TV I'm sure I'd spend a few more bucks for a "better " cable

[helli3yte]

sorry i forgot to mention that i do have a 56 hd-ila jvc 1080p tv. thats why i need the "better" cables

[Shadowself]

Originally Posted by Damon Payne

Its digital, although even in the analog domain the benefits would be questionable at best.

Take the internet: do you see corporations installing super high cost CAT5 wire to make their severs run faster? Maybe silver Cat5 wiring would make computers serve web pages faster or be more secure?
Digital communications of these types use cyclic redunacy checks, jitter correction, and other means (mostly based on very simple math and simple bit twiddling) to ensure that the data received is the same as the data sent. The same goes for toslink cables and the like: especially in the short distances we're talking for home theater gear.

Cat5 is not "high cost". It's the standard. Besides, most systems are hooked up with Cat5e (an enhance version of Cat5) today. Some are hooked up with Cat6 (a significantly better wiring set) and some installations of Cat6 have happened as far back as 2001! Cat5e and Cat6 use copper, not silver. Some installations are even experimenting with ClassF (some call it a "Cat7" equivalent) in order to have the robustness and speed they need (e.g., for 10+ Gbps transmissions).

Forward error correction coding is used just as often (and typically more often) than CRC coding. Modern FECs are not based upon simple math. In fact even the less modern R-S codes are based upon Galois field mathematics. LDPC codes are even more complex.

While it is true that 99% of home theatre setups do NOT need high end cabling, extending that to other areas is absolutely not justified.

[Brocade]

The difference may only be in the price. Monster has high (and I do mean HIGH) prices and some other retailers do not.

Buy an inexpensive cable, try it. Buy a Monster cable at a retailer that allows returns, try it. Then decide which you think is the better cable and the better value.

Some things to note about http://www.wildcable.com ; their HDMI is currently at a great price, other shipping options are available there ( avoid the UPS shipping as they will scalp you).

Wildcable.com has earned my repeat business with great prices, great product and great service. I currently use several of their HDMI cables ( HDMI 6000 M/M -- SILVER 6ft and their 4X1 HDMI switch ). They are only a few company who offer SILVER solder wire HDMI cable. Wildcable.com is one of them and only one who offer SUPER GOOD PRICE.

Good hunting and good luck.

[CablinGuyinCa]

I bought 3 cables and a 3 port switch from FireFold.com ( http://www.firefold.com/category.aspx?categoryID=54 )
They are in NC and I got my order delivered in 3 days to California. Their people are very helpful. For selling a 6ft HDMI cable for less than $6, they are a great place to shop. I never would buy a expensive HDMI cable, save your money and buy more DVDs

Gary

[TJandBLU-RAY]

Originally Posted by CablinGuyinCa

I bought 3 cables and a 3 port switch from FireFold.com ( http://www.firefold.com/category.aspx?categoryID=54 )
They are in NC and I got my order delivered in 3 days to California. Their people are very helpful. For selling a 6ft HDMI cable for less than $6, they are a great place to shop. I never would buy a expensive HDMI cable, save your money and buy more DVDs

Gary

I just bought a HDMI cable from Radio Shack, and paid $50 for a six foot cable, which was more then I needed. Took it home, hooked it up, and it was fine, at least far as I could tell.

Maybe someday, when I have more $$ to spend, I'll just get all the Monster Cable I can. Until then, I have to keep it cheap (ish).

[Nismobeach]

Just buy the monoprice cables. HDMI only transfers ones and zeros and the only way they won't reach their destination is if the cable is cut.

[Blue]

This is digital, the trick is to have low impedance. A number of the expensive cables are actually worse than the cheaper ones in this area. Agreed the more expensive the cable the more spent on the the marketing campaign. Computer network cables are all roughly the same price and all perform roughly the same. HDMI is efffectively 2 network cables in the same sheath. Excluding the physical construction of the connectors and assuming the cables conform to the standard (not onerous or expensive) there will be NO difference in Audio or Video between the cables.

[blindedcoon]

It does not matter wich cable $8.00 to $150.00. the signal is digital! there is no need to purchase expensive cables! I bought the nyko ps3 cable and it works just fine, and it was only $19.00 @ meijer

[Ashplisken]

There's definetly another thread about this already... probably a couple.

If you are spending more than $50-$60 you are getting ripped off unless you are running long distances with HDMI. Analog cables are different, you want high quality cables so that it doesn't colour the signal and such. HDMI is digital like people have already said on here, and it doesn't make a difference if you buy a $50 cable or a $1000 cable if you are running a short distance, so don't waste the money. As long as the cable is HDMI 1.3 cert. and is constructed well out of decent materials, it is enough.

[fragglerock585]

ALL QUALITY HDMI CABLES ARE THE SAME

Being that the signal is kept in the digital domain, with fixed timing and error correction (in receving devices), there is NO DIFFERENCE.

The only time there can be an issue is in a defective or uncertified cable, or a cable built too long for its quality (over 20ft, go with finer cables such as that monoprice 24 gauge).

The whole thing with people thinking it "looks better" is snake oil marketing at work - people want it to be true, even though they would be better off having saved the money. High cost cables are often ways of recovering margins on their loss leader products (tvs, etc).

Unless you see "sparkles" which are very obvious and indicate a defective wire or too long a wire, its ALL THE SAME.

And this is comming from a guy who worked at Sony (retail div), and has applied the snake oil, until I realized how stupid it all is. And I tested this on qualias. So dont tell me about your tv's quality. Dont make yourself feel better about spending too much on a cable by misinforming others.

Viva monoprice!