New AppleTV

[bhampton]

Im interested but in no hurry for a new model.

The existing model has certainly been one of my most valued purchases ever.

I think I would keep using it even if Apple dumped the notion completely.

[-Gonzo-]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Im interested but in no hurry for a new model.

The existing model has certainly been one of my most valued purchases ever.

I think I would keep using it even if Apple dumped the notion completely.

LMAO are you sure, you spent quite a lot of last year telling everyone how wrong they were going digital

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by -Gonzo-

LMAO are you sure, you spent quite a lot of last year telling everyone how wrong they were going digital

That has nothing to do with it.

As most know, I tried going digital but after losing access to paid content I realized it wasn't for me.

My 2 source components are my Panasonic UB420 for discs and my ATV4K for everything else.

[OneQuestionMan]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Im interested but in no hurry for a new model.

The existing model has certainly been one of my most valued purchases ever.

I think I would keep using it even if Apple dumped the notion completely.

Which I’m one of you considers the AppleTV to be a valued purchase?

[LexInHD]

Originally Posted by OneQuestionMan

Thanks.

So what nut having a chipset nailed down, foundry space, etc mean for a release date?

Is it much further off than the rumoured March? Like later in the year? And I am just just realising that an announcement in March doesn’t mean a release in March. It could months again before a release.

I would not expect a release until later in the year or any announcements until we see what CES 2021 brings, in a few days. Apple competes with everyone else and they are looking to use their own tech and designs in future products, so I would not look for anything until Apple announces it themselves. Their hardware priority right now is the iPhone, future Mac products, and the iPad, all of which are switching to new high-efficiency chips designed by Apple. Once those updates get sorted out, I think they'll throw out a new ATV, with the updated hardware to be "current" by today's latest standards.

[XanderAE]

Am I correct that the Apple TV apps (not Apple TV box) still do not allow access to extras/menus etc? If so, having the hardware is still a better option.

[darthpepsi]

Originally Posted by XanderAE

Am I correct that the Apple TV apps (not Apple TV box) still do not allow access to extras/menus etc? If so, having the hardware is still a better option.

Yes that’s is the downfall of the app, so if you have director cut as an extra you won’t be able to view it as well. I also read, can’t verify myself, that the bit rates are lower on the app as well but I’m not sure.

[calmblueocean81]

Originally Posted by XanderAE

Am I correct that the Apple TV apps (not Apple TV box) still do not allow access to extras/menus etc? If so, having the hardware is still a better option.

I actually wasn't aware of this! Would certainly give me pause before moving away from the hardware completely.

Also, not to derail this thread, but for those who have access to Movies Anywhere (its not available here in Ireland), is it the same case that you have a slightly lesser experience through as on the app, as opposed to accessing through the Apple hardware? Just curious!

[Justin101]

Not having native access to the extras is a pain in the backside, I have a 4th gen model so no 4k and I packed it away when I got my 4k TV with the app installed. I can airplay the extras from my iPad direct to the TV (Samsung) but it's such a bother and doesn't feel as fun... I have recently plugged my Apple TV back into the TV Screen so that I can watch the Lord of the Rings features easier.

Very almost bought a 4k model this weekend but I have a feeling a new model is going to come out by Q2 so I'll just hold off until then.

[cmcclure16]

I think the general consensus is probably around March as they usually announce new products and hold a Special Event during that month.

[XanderAE]

I agree with Fiffy, the 24hz support is pretty much number 1 on my list.

[JPS.GER]

Is it possible to search in your library (not the store) on Apple TV? At the moment I'm using the LG TV app, but it doesn't allow me to search my library and if a movie is removed from the store I have to scroll through all of my movies to find it.

[-Gonzo-]

Originally Posted by JPS.GER

Is it possible to search in your library (not the store) on Apple TV? At the moment I'm using the LG TV app, but it doesn't allow me to search my library and if a movie is removed from the store I have to scroll through all of my movies to find it.

Nope, a search only checks the store listings which then matches the store ID’s to your purchase history ID’s.

[JPS.GER]

Originally Posted by -Gonzo-

Nope, a search only checks the store listings which then matches the store ID’s to your purchase history ID’s.

Thanks.

Are covers cached in a better way? On the TV app it loads ~20-25 covers and after that it takes some time to continue scrolling. So it takes minutes to reach letter Z, if you have hundreds of movies. In iTunes (Windows) it also takes a moment to fetch the movies, but the scrolling isn't stopped - so it's no problem to reach higher letters in seconds.

How do you play unlisted movies from your library? Is it the same problem for you or is there some workaround I haven't found yet?

[-Gonzo-]

Originally Posted by JPS.GER

Thanks.

Are covers cached in a better way? On the TV app it loads ~20-25 covers and after that it takes some time to continue scrolling. So it takes minutes to reach letter Z, if you have hundreds of movies. In iTunes (Windows) it also takes a moment to fetch the movies, but the scrolling isn't stopped - so it's no problem to reach higher letters in seconds.

Dunno, they’re just there on my ATV4K, can also scroll in seconds by running my thumb down the right side of the Siri remote trackpad.
The only time it may take a little while for the covers to populate is if I switch between my UK & US accounts.

How do you play unlisted movies from your library? Is it the same problem for you or is there some workaround I haven't found yet?

Not entirely sure what you’re meaning as those movies still be in your library, you just go to the library and select them and they play.
I do however prefer to use the purchased section of the Movies app for selecting from my library.

[JPS.GER]

Originally Posted by -Gonzo-

Dunno, they’re just there on my ATV4K, can also scroll in seconds by running my thumb down the right side of the Siri remote trackpad.

How many movies are in your library? I have over 1000 and in combination with loading only ~25 per 1-2 seconds (and preventing scrolling until the next 25 are cached) it gets complicated to start relisted/delisted movies on the TV app. Would be one of the reasons to get the ATV4K, if that solves that problem.

Not entirely sure what you’re meaning as those movies still be in your library, you just go to the library and select them and they play.

The problem is that search doesn't find the license for my relisted/delisted movies, so the only way is to use library and the slow caching/scrolling on the TV app. Sometimes it works to use genre to reduce the number of movies, but otherwise it takes a few minutes to reach the movies at the end of the alphabetical list.

[OneQuestionMan]

Originally Posted by JPS.GER

Is it possible to search in your library (not the store) on Apple TV? At the moment I'm using the LG TV app, but it doesn't allow me to search my library and if a movie is removed from the store I have to scroll through all of my movies to find it.

That is something many of us want I think.

And I would like a customisable library - be able to group a franchise in a playlist or something. I don’t think that would be possible on an AppleTV though.

[cmleblanc]

Originally Posted by OneQuestionMan

That is something many of us want I think.

And I would like a customisable library - be able to group a franchise in a playlist or something. I don’t think that would be possible on an AppleTV though.

Yes!! Just like the Lists feature on Vudu. Sadly the Lists do not work on the Vudu app on the Apple TV. So I have to use the Vudu app on LG TV instead.

[OneQuestionMan]

Originally Posted by cmleblanc

Yes!! Just like the Lists feature on Vudu. Sadly the Lists do not work on the Vudu app on the Apple TV. So I have to use the Vudu app on LG TV instead.

Is that like a playlist?

The fact they have it on a Vudu app for LG and not on their tvOS app might be because playlist can’t be done on tvOS for some reason.

[BlakkMajik3000]

Originally Posted by cmleblanc

Yes!! Just like the Lists feature on Vudu. Sadly the Lists do not work on the Vudu app on the Apple TV. So I have to use the Vudu app on LG TV instead.

Has VUDU explained this lack of functionality on the ATV? It's annoying as hell. It also apparently isn't there for Android TV either.

Technically, you can create movie playlists with your iTunes movie/tv library, but you have to download each movie/show and access it via home sharing. It makes no sense they can't implement the functionality with movies since they do it with music.