Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone 4K+BD 20th Anniversary WWA Steelbook (OAB#53)

[thewerepuppygrr]

Is it too British to want it to say "Philosopher's Stone"?

[Rooper]

Originally Posted by thewerepuppygrr

Is it too British to want it to say "Philosopher's Stone"?

Nope. As the Philosopher's Stone is based on a specific mythical item (with magical powers) it makes little sense to use the name Sorcerer's Stone, which isn't really a thing. But that's what they did in the US (and some other areas).

[Trent AKA DoubleDown]

Originally Posted by UUUUGGGGHHHH

Damn, VIPs only? I've bought a couple dozen Blufans releases in the past but never applied to be a VIP. Guess I'm going to miss out on this one .

A couple dozen isn't enough anyway. Sorry mate

[UUUUGGGGHHHH]

Originally Posted by Trent AKA DoubleDown

A couple dozen isn't enough anyway. Sorry mate

Yeah there was one point in time where I was ahead of the curve and could've applied and never got around to it, and then I fell off from collecting for a while as I was going through a divorce. Maybe one day I'll reach VIP status.

[TheHutt]

At least the steelbook has the correct British title.

Other then that, BluFans really has no justification selling it under its flawed American title.

[one69chev]

That's harsh---'here, check this awesome set out, but by the way, you can't buy one'---lol

This is probably going to be a stupid question, but why not just make a more? Why does every recent release seem to be 'ultra low print run'? This is an honest question...is it a problem with the printer, trouble securing the materials?

[thewerepuppygrr]

Originally Posted by one69chev

That's harsh---'here, check this awesome set out, but by the way, you can't buy one'---lol

This is probably going to be a stupid question, but why not just make a more? Why does every recent release seem to be 'ultra low print run'? This is an honest question...is it a problem with the printer, trouble securing the materials?

I think a lot of low runs are more about not being stuck with a bunch of dead stock. It prompts people to buy quicker if they think something's going to sell out, rather than save it for when it gets cheaper. It means a company can sell a smaller amount of stock at full price. It's a shame there isn't more of a print-to-order system where there is a limited window for preordering and then they just make that amount of stock.

[Trent AKA DoubleDown]

Originally Posted by one69chev

That's harsh---'here, check this awesome set out, but by the way, you can't buy one'---lol

This is probably going to be a stupid question, but why not just make a more? Why does every recent release seem to be 'ultra low print run'? This is an honest question...is it a problem with the printer, trouble securing the materials?

Blufans OAB releases have been only available in the 200-500 copy print runs since the beginning 9-10 years ago so this isn't exactly something that's new. Without some releases being very scare every collector would be able to purchase anything they wanted. That doesn't sound like a collectable to me? Might as well collect baseball cards from the early 90's where they printed millions of copies of everything. This way everyone got every card and had a full set.

[BizCat]

Nice!

[The Godfather]

Originally Posted by Trent AKA DoubleDown

Blufans OAB releases have been only available in the 200-500 copy print runs since the beginning 9-10 years ago so this isn't exactly something that's new. Without some releases being very scare every collector would be able to purchase anything they wanted. That doesn't sound like a collectable to me? Might as well collect baseball cards from the early 90's where they printed millions of copies of everything. This way everyone got every card and had a full set.

If u feel this way then just get Steelbook without all the goodies. If not then go collect baseball cards. Just remember it costs money and time to put all these extra together with the Steelbook from any of these premium companies. That is why they are limited not to mention these companies have to get rights to film and get approval for correct artwork. So if they made millions of copies it may come out 6 or 7 years down the line after planning it all.

[Trent AKA DoubleDown]

Originally Posted by The Godfather

If u feel this way then just get Steelbook without all the goodies. If not then go collect baseball cards. Just remember it costs money and time to put all these extra together with the Steelbook from any of these premium companies. That is why they are limited not to mention these companies have to get rights to film and get approval for correct artwork. So if they made millions of copies it may come out 6 or 7 years down the line after planning it all.

I can't decipher this strange reply?

I'd have to ask you what you meant foe every sentence you wrote. So I just did the 1st sentence as an example.
"If u feel this way then just get Steelbook without all the goodies"
I think your trying to say don't get the limited expensive steelbooks?

[GreatGreg]

It is a pretty valid question.

It's always a challenge to create just enough. If a company makes too many, they are stuck with overstock.

If a company makes too few, they are walking away from money on the table.

For example, if each movie sells for $100 each, if they sell out and even ten people more want it, that is $1000 that they are walking away from.

All the upfront work is done -- the art design, the approvals, the licensing -- they just needed to print 10x more and package them up.

It's certainly not an easy thing to do. You have to accurately forecast how many of your product will sell. You can only afford so many mistakes, but limiting them to a low quantity at least guarantees you that you will cover your costs, but won't allow you to grow.

In my job, I have to accurately forecast sales for my company and it's never easy, but there are a lot of rewards if you get it right.

[cyclorama]

Originally Posted by GreatGreg

It is a pretty valid question.

It's always a challenge to create just enough. If a company makes too many, they are stuck with overstock.

If a company makes too few, they are walking away from money on the table.

For example, if each movie sells for $100 each, if they sell out and even ten people more want it, that is $1000 that they are walking away from.

All the upfront work is done -- the art design, the approvals, the licensing -- they just needed to print 10x more and package them up.

It's certainly not an easy thing to do. You have to accurately forecast how many of your product will sell. You can only afford so many mistakes, but limiting them to a low quantity at least guarantees you that you will cover your costs, but won't allow you to grow.

In my job, I have to accurately forecast sales for my company and it's never easy, but there are a lot of rewards if you get it right.

But you can't just buy 10 more. They have to be purchased in bulk in certain increments. If the minimum purchase from Scanavo is 250 for this shared WWA SteelBook then you can't just say that "we want 260." The next increment may be 500. Or the minimum could be 500 and the next increment is 1000. A retailer may gamble on 500 but maybe not 1000 of a non exclusive SteelBook.

[Trent AKA DoubleDown]

Correct and over 10 years I can't remember a single OAB release over 500 copies so there is obviously a reason they want them to be between 200-500 copies..Putting out a few very limited editions gets collectors excited and you are sure it would sell out. Anyone notice Filmarena FAC Editions are mostly 500-600 copies still years 4-5 years later. Only when they do a WEA package does Filmarena up the copies because they have to paying for WEAl steelbook.

They become more desirable with low print runs and FAC and Blufans understand that matters to many collectors. Blufans invented taking a WWA steelbook and turning it into a premium with fantastic slips, extras, and now even boxsets for OABs sometimes.. Now almost every competitor Novamedia, Filmarena, HDzeta, and on and on stole this idea from Blufans.

[GreatGreg]

I don't know if you can credit Blufans with this idea. Many retailers repackage standard products with one or two bonus items to make it 'exclusive'. It's hardly unique to the home video market.

Yes, usually you can increase your order. Scanavo will have price breaks at certain volumes, so in order to get to the next price break, but you can order as many as you want.

What may be happening is that they only purchased a license to print a small number. After that, they have to go back to the studio for permission to increase the volume. Studios obviously wouldn't allow them to print an unlimited amount.

[heavyharmonies]

Originally Posted by GreatGreg

What may be happening is that they only purchased a license to print a small number. After that, they have to go back to the studio for permission to increase the volume. Studios obviously wouldn't allow them to print an unlimited amount.

It's not just permission, but IMO more importantly the economies of manufacturing. I see this all the time when it comes to comics, sports cards, any sort of limited collectible: "Just print a few more!"

That's not the way this works.

When you ramp up a manufacturing run or press sun, the lion's share of the expenses are front-loaded, i.e., makeready costs, line fees, etc. You defray those costs over the number of units in that manufacturing/press run.

If you go "back to press" those setup costs happen again, but if your subsequent run is a smaller number of units, you're defraying those expenses across a smaller number of units, thus increasing the cost per unit.

This then becomes a delicate balancing act regarding the risk of return vs. reward, and the risk grows HIGHER with every press run after the first, as you have already saturated your target market. Gauging demand and determining how many to print of widget X is difficult enough to begin with, let alone trying to gauge "how many more" are warranted, given the increased expense and the diminished potential return.

That's why you more frequently see reissues with new artwork, bonus features, exclusives, etc., rather than just reprints of existing product. The publisher has to make something different or new in the hopes of attracting double- and triple-dippers to be able to make ends meet. A straight up reprint or additional quantity is rarely justified.

[GreatGreg]

Originally Posted by heavyharmonies

It's not just permission, but IMO more importantly the economies of manufacturing. I see this all the time when it comes to comics, sports cards, any sort of limited collectible: "Just print a few more!"

That's not the way this works.

When you ramp up a manufacturing run or press sun, the lion's share of the expenses are front-loaded, i.e., makeready costs, line fees, etc. You defray those costs over the number of units in that manufacturing/press run.

If you go "back to press" those setup costs happen again, but if your subsequent run is a smaller number of units, you're defraying those expenses across a smaller number of units, thus increasing the cost per unit.

This then becomes a delicate balancing act regarding the risk of return vs. reward, and the risk grows HIGHER with every press run after the first, as you have already saturated your target market. Gauging demand and determining how many to print of widget X is difficult enough to begin with, let alone trying to gauge "how many more" are warranted, given the increased expense and the diminished potential return.

That's why you more frequently see reissues with new artwork, bonus features, exclusives, etc., rather than just reprints of existing product. The publisher has to make something different or new in the hopes of attracting double- and triple-dippers to be able to make ends meet. A straight up reprint or additional quantity is rarely justified.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. It would cost more to go back to press, assuming that is even allowed with the license they have.

They may be limited to how many initial copies they can produce. There is no real advantage for them to artificially limit the initial order when they constantly sell out. They don't make money on the aftermarket sales.

Knowing that they sell out, they should increase the initial order to maximize their profits. They aren't doing this so I suspect they are limited by production numbers for some other reason.

[bluraysteel]

Because of the overwhelming demand, there are some changes made to the final release. There will be an amaray case edition (2 Discs) added for the release. In addition to that, the concept artwork for the outer case has been changed and the folding poster has been removed from the package. Everything else remains the same for both editions. I will give more VIP preorder information this weekend. Thanks again for your patience!

Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone 20 Years of Movie Magic Boxset

Steelbook Case Edition:



- 1 WWA Steelbook
- 3 Discs (4K UHD+BD+BD 20 YEARS MAGIC)
- Single Lenticular Slipcase for the steelbook
- A photo booklet
- Two sets of movie art cards
- Hogwarts Express Ticket
- A numbered sticker
- Limited Print Run 300 copies


Amaray Case Edition:



- 2 Discs (4K UHD+BD 20 YEARS MAGIC)
- Single Lenticular Slipcase
- A photo booklet
- Two sets of movie art cards
- Hogwarts Express Ticket
- A numbered sticker
- Limited Print Run 200 copies

[TheCollector86]

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