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Old 02-03-2008, 08:06 PM   #21
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Em, I thought they could get out of the contract cos of the warner thing?
Do you believe everything you read on the internet
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Old 02-03-2008, 08:10 PM   #22
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That reminds me.. don't you just hate grain?
Not as much as black bars. Seriously, what DO they do with the rest of the picture? Are they gonna release it on a later special edition? I hope so!!!
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Old 02-03-2008, 08:12 PM   #23
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Do you believe everything you read on the internet
No, but I read that multiple times in this forum who 'confimed' that it was true.
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Old 02-03-2008, 08:13 PM   #24
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My thoughts exactly. I wonder what the late Mr Roddenberry would think of the conduct of the studio holding the rights to his creation (specifically with reference to the ethics espoused in the franchise). They are certainly at odds.

Paramount is going very very far down in my estimation.

Gee, anybody remember how LONG it took paramount to come to the party with even DVD? How many years before non-bare bones Star Trek turned up. They were pretty bad in a lot of ways.
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:01 PM   #25
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From the looks of things, they are selling more blu-rays than HD DVDs
HAHAHAHA!!! That would be hilarious to find out that the remaining Paramount Blu-ray stock has sold better than, or even equally to, their HD DVD stock this whole time since their defection!
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:03 PM   #26
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Paramount = 0 class at all.

At least Universal has stuck with their side all along.

...and Warner Brothers kept their HD-DVD releases that were already announced on the board. So they certainly took the high road.

Paramount, you tick me off!
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:19 PM   #27
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Umm, class? This is the same company that brings you MTV, the channel formerly known as Music Television, but now it's basically Reality tv. VH-1 is now reality hits 1.
Yeah, it's a shame, because I used to like putting on MTV and watching some videos. Then they filled the channel with stuff that had little to no connection to music because it get higher ratings.

So I was interested when they rolled out MTV 2, which was supposed to be nothing but wall-to-wall videos all day long, with a continuous mix of music styles instead of segregating each style on its own show.

But my cable provider didn't pick up MTV 2, and by the time I was able to get it several years later it was essentially just a copy of the MTV, with the same non-music tripe filling most of the time.
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:24 PM   #28
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Back on topic (in this off-topic thread)...

I think that Paramount will flip very soon, that the stories that indicated that they exercised an out clause in their contract were true.

I doubt the out clause let them just immediately switch sides and start trashing HD DVD. It may very well have let them trigger something that would let them out in 30-90 days.

If not, they probably still want to ramp up production and be ready to hit the ground running.

Personally, I don't care, as long as they start making Blu-ray Discs. They can drop HD DVD or not; it's really irrelevant to me.
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:25 PM   #29
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Everyone posting on this thread knows that when Transformers is released on Blu with a PCM track we are all going to go out and get it!

Yeah 8/20/07 caught me off guard, and I was pissed to, but at the end of the day all studios will be Blu and we will be buying as many as we can like we already do!
I wonder when HDD reviews it, what will it get?

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Old 02-03-2008, 10:44 PM   #30
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Do you believe everything you read on the internet
The Paramount 'escape clause' was reported in The Financial Times and in Variety. Neither publication retracted those claims.

Variety said even more:

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Daily Variety has confirmed that Universal's commitment to backing HD DVD exclusively has ended. And Paramount has an escape clause in its HD DVD contract allowing it to release pics on Blu-ray after Warner Bros.' decision to back that format exclusively.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...goryid=20&cs=1

They also published denials by the remaining red studios but Variety are clearly happy with the original content of the article as being accurate.

So, you're right, don't believe what you read on the internet (AVS, HDD etc.). Instead look for supporting evidence from respected publications like, oh, I don't know... Variety?

It seems the red studios have made some kind of new deal with Toshiba - foolishly (yet again) - but this deal cannot be for very much longer. HD DVD is dying before our eyes. At some point - soon - Universal and Paramount will be announcing Blu-ray support.

You don't really need any journalist (or web blogger) to tell you that.
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:49 AM   #31
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Not as much as black bars. Seriously, what DO they do with the rest of the picture? Are they gonna release it on a later special edition? I hope so!!!


If it's in letterbox you are GETTING ALL OF THE PICTURE.

If it's a scope movie in 16:9... then the rest of the movie is in thin air off the edge of your panel

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Old 02-04-2008, 11:01 PM   #32
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Paramount + Tom cruise = (fill in the blank)
You mean Tom Cruise + UA (of MGM/UA)...

I believe UA is DVD-exclusive, since it operates independently of MGM, similar to New Line's current relationship with Warner.
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:47 AM   #33
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Em, I thought they could get out of the contract cos of the warner thing?
yes and my guess they will, but it is not that simple. Contracts don't tend to be that simple when you get into the "getting out of the deal", not to mention that the reports also talk about monetary penalties for using the escape clause. So for us it is simple, but I am sure for Paramount it is not I am sure they are looking at consequences and redealing with Toshiba and maybe BD companies. Let’s face it, it was dumb greed that made them sign in the first place and neither dumb nor greed disappear when someone realizes they made a mistake.
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Old 02-05-2008, 12:57 PM   #34
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Thumbs down Toshiba isn't even about good business anymore. It's become personal

One article I read someplace said the same thing I said. Tool-shiba, Paramount and Universal all looking at each other waiting for the other shoe to drop. The studios are saying, but Tool-shiba still makes the players. Tool-shiba is aying, but the studios still support us.

Remember that Chinese CH-DVD player that went no where? That's because the studios blew it off. The behavior of Toshiba tells me they will fight this fight with one studio if they must. As long as they have a studio, they can make hell for blu-ray.

Toshiba isn't even about good business anymore. It's become personal.
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:11 PM   #35
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Paramount is run by accountants, not filmmakers and filmlovers.
Same as all movie studios.
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Old 02-06-2008, 05:45 PM   #36
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Paramount has no class because they didn't go to school. If they attended class they would have known blu was the winner and dud was doomed to fail.
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