The Seventh Seal 4K UHD (1957)

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by Kyle15

Already got the fabulous BFI 4k disc authored by FiM. Highly recommended!

But it doesn't have a big C on the front cover, therefore it's inferior.

[fred25_Ca]

As someone who didn't want to buy the whole Bergman set and only wanted The seventh seal, this is a welcomed news!

[Braktastic]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Day one. Von Sydow's best film.

Nah, bro. That's Flash Gordon! Followed closely by Strange Brew.

Originally Posted by Kyle15

Already got the fabulous BFI 4k disc authored by FiM. Highly recommended!

Me too. I can't imagine Criterion toping it.

[tama]

Emailed CC about this title and Triangle asking if these disc are in fact encoded in SDR or if its in fact encoded in an HDR container.

I believe there's been a release or two where they didn't mention HDR because they don't consider anything below 300 nits to be true HDR.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by PNguyen

If we bully them enough, maybe they might change their minds and add HDR and Dolby Vision like Uncut Gems or what MVD recently decided to do with Rain Man.

Sure, "bullying" a company is always the right and entitled way to get what you want.

Originally Posted by PNguyen

Yeah it was announced only Blu-ray and enough people complained that they decided to release the 4K too.

LOL

[PNguyen]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

Sure, "bullying" a company is always the right and entitled way to get what you want.



LOL

Criterion was never going to join 4K until a bunch of people bullied them into it and it worked. They obviously read emails people send, people have been sending emails about when they were going 4K for 2 years and they end up getting the same automated generic responses. Enough pressure on Criterion convinced them to join the 4K market and now they are either paying the price for not selling well or they finally understood 4K sales are where physical media is surviving. There are other situations where labels just ignore complaints like Kino's Silence of the Lamb colour space and audio butchering, Shout's They Live colour space issue, Criterion's Sound of Metal subtitle issue, but that may be the lack of pressure on these labels due to many customers not spotting the issues.

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by dcx4610

Haven't had a chance to watch my BFI copy but it'll be interesting to see comparions.

I feel bad for the Criterion super collectors. I have a feeling at least 50% of them will get UHD releases.

I agree. I've been hanging back during the recent sales because of the likelihood that there will be a 4K to follow.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Braktastic

Nah, bro. That's Flash Gordon! Followed closely by Strange Brew.

Don't forget Dune.

[PNguyen]

The other theory I have as to why Criterion wouldn't add HDR or Dolby Vision to this Seventh Seal release is preserving artistic integrity. They may have looked at the BFI 4K and thought maybe it doesn't look accurate to how the film was shown in theaters or how the original prints were. We don't know for sure if Bergman would've liked the BFI release.

[Maximux]

simply awesome

[JG7]

Originally Posted by PNguyen

The other theory I have as to why Criterion wouldn't add HDR or Dolby Vision to this Seventh Seal release is preserving artistic integrity. They may have looked at the BFI 4K and thought maybe it doesn't look accurate to how the film was shown in theaters or how the original prints were. We don't know for sure if Bergman would've liked the BFI release.

We don't know if he would've liked the SDR either.

[vinvanveen]

Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

Would rather get the BFI release, already have the Bergman set.

The subtitles on the BFI release are atrocious, though.

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by vinvanveen

The subtitles on the BFI release are atrocious, though.

Translation or just the ugly font (or both)?

[vinvanveen]

Originally Posted by professorwho

Translation or just the ugly font (or both)?

Translation, though the font's ugly too. The worst offender, to me, is that Death is consistently referred to as "the Devil" in the subtitles. (Which makes no sense...) Somehow that got through quality control.

(I should add here that the image quality on the BFI disk is really, really good. You win some, you lose some)

[Fjodor2000]

Is this just the start, so we'll get more Bergman masterpieces on 4K BD from Criterion?

There's a long list of possible ones, for example:

Summer with Monika
Smiles of a Summer Night
Wild Strawberries
Through a Glass Darkly
The Silence
Persona
Shame
Fanny and Alexander

[PNguyen]

Originally Posted by Fjodor2000

Is this just the start, so we'll get more Bergman masterpieces on 4K BD from Criterion?

There's a long list of possible ones, for example:

Summer with Monika
Smiles of a Summer Night
Wild Strawberries
Through a Glass Darkly
The Silence
Persona
Shame
Fanny and Alexander

I think we'll get Persona and Fanny and Alexander 4Ks at some point

[El Sleezo]

Yeah I double checked and I think all the other big films specify a 2K transfer. Hopefully SF Studios gets on it.

[Hellraiserfan]

Originally Posted by Fjodor2000

Is this just the start, so we'll get more Bergman masterpieces on 4K BD from Criterion?

There's a long list of possible ones, for example:

Summer with Monika
Smiles of a Summer Night
Wild Strawberries
Through a Glass Darkly
The Silence
Persona
Shame
Fanny and Alexander

I would really love it if they released Hour of the Wolf as well.

[M A]

Originally Posted by Fjodor2000

Is this just the start, so we'll get more Bergman masterpieces on 4K BD from Criterion?

There's a long list of possible ones, for example:

Summer with Monika
Smiles of a Summer Night
Wild Strawberries
Through a Glass Darkly
The Silence
Persona
Shame
Fanny and Alexander

Originally Posted by PNguyen

I think we'll get Persona and Fanny and Alexander 4Ks at some point

Originally Posted by El Sleezo

Yeah I double checked and I think all the other big films specify a 2K transfer. Hopefully SF Studios gets on it.

The Seventh Seal, Autumn Sonata, and Face to Face are the only Bergman films to have a 4K restoration

[tama]

Originally Posted by vinvanveen

Translation, though the font's ugly too. The worst offender, to me, is that Death is consistently referred to as "the Devil" in the subtitles. (Which makes no sense...) Somehow that got through quality control.

(I should add here that the image quality on the BFI disk is really, really good. You win some, you lose some)

Only reason I've held out for a CC release.