Death Machine (1994) - Coming from Kino

[Fat Phil]

Originally Posted by Nailwraps

Like they said, they didn't know more than 1 cut existed so maybe's now is a good time to ask them about including the unrated cut.

Originally Posted by SpiderNerd09

Exactly this, the sooner people let Kino know about the unrated cut, the likelier they are at being able to find a way to include it.

Delay the release, I can wait.

I replied to the Kino Insider in the main thread giving them the pertinent details -
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=87013

[Metalbeast]

Originally Posted by Nailwraps

Like they said, they didn't know more than 1 cut existed so maybe's now is a good time to ask them about including the unrated cut.

You would think that a label that well renowned would at least do their research before putting out a movie.

Since the release date has been announced it's probably too late to include the unrated version. I doubt Kino would delay the release to include the second cut.

[agenda]

Originally Posted by Metalbeast

You would think that a label that well renowned would at least do their research before putting out a movie.

Exactly!!!

[JasonMichael]

Originally Posted by Metalbeast

You would think that a label that well renowned would at least do their research before putting out a movie.

Since the release date has been announced it's probably too late to include the unrated version. I doubt Kino would delay the release to include the second cut.

Originally Posted by agenda

Exactly!!!

Just because the KL Insider (who was decent enough to come here to answer some questions on a Sunday) wasn't aware of the different cuts, does not mean whoever negotiated for the release didn't know. There's all kinds of things we aren't privy to.

[Jay H.]

I had heard a lot of good things about this, so I finally watched it about 2 years ago (no idea which cut I watched). I'm happy for the fans that this is getting released. Unless this isn't the cut that most fans want. In that case, I'm perturbed.

[DukeTogo84]

As someone who hasn't seen any cut of this film, is the longer cut much better than the R-Rated cut?

[Fat Phil]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

As someone who hasn't seen any cut of this film, is the longer cut much better than the R-Rated cut?

Hard for me to say because being in Europe, i've only ever watched the full version. The R-Rated is pretty much exclusive to the USA. From all i've read though, the cuts are designed to shove the movie along at a much faster pace. Mostly comprised of numerous smaller edits (i.e. shortened and removed shots) although a couple of sub-plots have also been entirely excised. Unfortunately some edits have been made to action/violence too.

You can actually read the lengthy list of differences here. I wouldn't read the latter part though, so as to avoid spoilers . But just reading the first dozen or so will give you a pretty good idea of what they've done to shorten the movie, without ruining any future viewings -
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=464584

[Moonlight Shadow]

I only know the european cut of the movie and that always felt too long and slow so maybe I will prefer the tighter US cut.
Of course Kino should include both cuts if it's possible.

[meremortal]

Always wanted to see this one. Evolver is another killer machine movie I'd love to see on blu. It's such a fun film that I try to watch every so often. Unfortunately, it sounds like Arcade from Full Moon may not have the source elements for a blu. That was one of my favorites growing up.

[Fat Phil]

Some potentially good news -

We're looking into including the longer cut of DEATH MACHINE, so the release is now tentatively moved from November to December.

Source: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=87101

Fingers crossed.

[joewolf]

Awesome! If they could get a Stephen Norrington commentary, that would be incredible.

Regarding this vs Hardware, I much prefer Death Machine. It's essentially a sci-fi action flick that punches way, way above its weight when it comes to production design and visuals. It has a certain look that taps into the early 90s cyberpunk & sci-fi anime aesthetic that few other live action movies ever captured. Its main issue is its slow pace. Meanwhile, I find Hardware to be interesting but also artsy w*****y. Not a big fan of its trash heap aesthetic either, which was very common in 80s and early 90s cheap scifi.

[Fat Phil]

Originally Posted by joewolf

Not a big fan of its trash heap aesthetic either, which was very common in 80s and early 90s cheap scifi.

I'm quite fond of the trash heap aesthetic but production quirks like that do make me chuckle. Like how most low/medium (even some high) budget action movies always filmed their climactic showdown in an abandoned warehouse.... or at the docks...... or in an abandoned warehouse at the docks

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by Fat Phil

I'm quite fond of the trash heap aesthetic but production quirks like that do make me chuckle. Like how most low/medium (even some high) budget action movies always filmed their climactic showdown in an abandoned warehouse.... or at the docks...... or in an abandoned warehouse at the docks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG3Dn3JVdHw

[Ruined]

Dont remember this at all for some reason but looks fun

[Socko]

Hardware is like a mad robot going haywire in an apartment
Death Machine is like a mad robot going haywire in a building
I'm looking forward to a movie about a mad robot going haywire in a neighborhood
Of course that needs a sequel where a mad robot is going haywire in a town.

And before you know it there will be a franchise of mad robots going haywire in a city or state, or countries... or... The World!

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

HTF schedule has been updated with some December titles.

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[kamphausd1]

The Kino Lorber Insider has indicated that this won't be coming out in December as they are still working on it. That was initially somewhat disappointing to hear, but I'm really hoping it means we will be getting the longer cut of the film after all.

[WaverBoy]

Originally Posted by kamphausd1

The Kino Lorber Insider has indicated that this won't be coming out in December as they are still working on it. That was initially somewhat disappointing to hear, but I'm really hoping it means we will be getting the longer cut of the film after all.

This is excellent news IMO. The longer cut has gotta be the reason. It’s just gotta!

[DR Herbert West]

Now this will come out on the 30th anniversary.

[kamphausd1]

According to Kinos website, the new release date for this is 3/26/2024.