Millennium Mambo (2001) Blu-ray (Metrograph Pictures) - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

pL86 · 06-28-2023, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Endymion0000

Adding that my copy shipped from Amazon today.

I ordered in APRIL on Amazon and got an email today asking me to approve a delay without any estimated arrival date. Amazon fulfillment is a frustrating mystery - from my experience, orders that are placed later are often fulfilled before orders placed earlier. If I had placed an order last week instead of two and a half months ago, I’d probably have this title in hand or on its way.

Endymion0000 · 06-28-2023, 10:30 PM

Yeah, I ordered mine June 3rd. Sorry.

I think a number of additional factors come into play such as Prime vs not-Prime and your primary warehouse. So if an item is available at warehouse close to me but is not in the one's the primarily server your area, it may be that the priority goes to local shipments before they have to transport an item across the country, especially if your warehouse is earmarked for a shipment from the manufacturer that just hasn't come in yet and from what I've heard Kino has been short on getting titles to Amazon lately.

I usually just order straight from Kino, but this time it was cheaper on Amazon. Although I do have another Kino order that should be out that hasn't shipped because they're now showing out of stock. So they could be having overall issues getting their discs in to then distribute them.

vamatt99218 · 06-28-2023, 11:24 PM

I ordered mine on April 18th and Amazon's website states I will get it tomorrow.

Gacivory · 06-29-2023, 12:25 AM

Amazon has been having trouble getting Kino & Kino related discs out on release dat e for awhile now.

Loaded Man · 06-29-2023, 09:28 PM

I couldn't wait for Amazon to get it in stock so I ordered from Best Buy on Monday and received it today. I thought this title was going to have a slipcover but mine didn't come with one.

vamatt99218 · 06-29-2023, 10:19 PM

I didn't get a slipcover either.

MifuneFan · 06-29-2023, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by vamatt99218

I didn't get a slipcover either.

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I don't think it came with a slipcover

klapro · 06-30-2023, 05:11 PM

Anyone knows what's going on with this being out of stock everywhere?

on and on · 07-01-2023, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by klapro

Anyone knows what's going on with this being out of stock everywhere?

i have no idea what's going on. i pre-ordered from amazon april 20.

and was seeing the your order will arrive

june 28 message when i checked on it.

but it got delayed and it arrived at my postal center today.

Fabs · 07-02-2023, 01:56 AM

Hopefully, this sells well and shows that we want more Taiwanese cinema on Blu.

Zen_Amako · 07-11-2023, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fabs

Hopefully, this sells well and shows that we want more Taiwanese cinema on Blu.

This was a blind buy for me (I had previously seen The Assassin and Flowers of Shanghai) and I thought it was a worthy purchase. It kind of felt like a Taiwanese Michelangelo Antonioni film. It doesn't have much plot, but it does have great cinematography, a beautiful female lead, and a strong sense of ennui. Love the opening shot set to the techno beat.

RMA · 08-06-2023, 08:44 PM

As a big fan of Hsiao-Hsien Hou, this was a blind buy for me - and I was not disappointed. This might be the best restoration of an Asian film I've seen so far this year. The Blu-ray is extremely cinematic, with the world-class cinematography and period-typical palette perfectly preserved. Most importantly, the encoding is perfect despite the heavy neon tones, which is anything but a given.

A few screencaps (all uncompressed PNGs):

DuncJS · 02-28-2024, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RMA

As a big fan of Hsiao-Hsien Hou, this was a blind buy for me - and I was not disappointed. This might be the best restoration of an Asian film I've seen so far this year. The Blu-ray is extremely cinematic, with the world-class cinematography and period-typical palette perfectly preserved. Most importantly, the encoding is perfect despite the heavy neon tones, which is anything but a given.

A few screencaps (all uncompressed PNGs):

Tell that to the reviewer: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Mille...167929/#Review

themp3000 · 02-28-2024, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DuncJS

Tell that to the reviewer: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Mille...167929/#Review

What a surprise.

Anyways, it is a gorgeous restoration and I’d go so far to say one of the greatest of the last few years in general.

MifuneFan · 02-28-2024, 02:10 PM

Looks great to me.

Modren · 02-28-2024, 04:21 PM

Should Svet just stick to new releases from now on? It's obvious that he hates any new restoration of a film regardless of how it actually looks simply for being different from how it "originally" looked (on a DVD, 20 years ago, which he hasn't watched in ages). Maybe if he reviews Madame Web or whatever he'll have something constructive to say for once.

NeoNical · 02-28-2024, 04:22 PM

From the screenshots I have seen, this film looks amazing. There's no way this video should get a 2.5 just because of colors alone. That's putting other films with other video/encoding problems more credit. It does seem like the reviewer's scoring on the video depends mostly on the way the colors look and compare to previous releases but I think the problem with comparing to an older DVD release is that there was probably some kind of practice where companies would manipulate the colors of the film for its DVD counterpart.

The reviewer seems to be comparing it to the French TF1 Video DVD. If I had to imagine what this film would actually look like in the 35mm prints that was utilized for its theatrical release, I would actually argue that the new 4K restoration looks more accurate than the older DVDs. I know that L'Immagine Ritrovata gets a lot of heat for their color grading and this reviewer in particular has given some rather intense scores for the films restored by this company but I actually think this one is well justified. Also the thing about the film now looking ordinary because of the 4K restoration but so much of this film has some amazingly beautiful cinematography with strong use of colors since there are so many scenes set in the rave culture. I just simply don't understand what the review is trying to argue about with colors because I think this is the strongest presentation that this film has ever gotten so far and that 2.5 score cannot, for the love of god, be justified based on color alone.

RMA · 02-28-2024, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuncJS

Tell that to the reviewer: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Mille...167929/#Review

The so-called doctor once again, his reviews are a skillful mixture of unintentional comedy and complete cluelessness.

kikujirobill · 02-28-2024, 05:20 PM

Svet is a menace �� can you imagine working on these releases and putting out an exemplary product and having this clown crap all over it for no reason?! Using a DVD as a reference is absolutely hilarious and he does it every time.

Kylein24fps · 02-29-2024, 04:49 AM

Was able to see a very good 35mm print of this a few years ago at an LA rep theater and have to say that the screenshots posted in the review are very accurate to my lingering impression from that screening. I always avoided seeing this movie in college because of how ancient the DVD release was, even though I know that's the way almost every English speaking person first saw it. Thankfully that wasn't the case for me, as I got to see it in pristine, original fashion without any visual compromise.

As is almost always the case, The Doctor is scary with how wrong his convictions are, in terms of both aesthetics and psychology.

"Therefore, you must"

06-29-2023, 10:19 PM	#26
vamatt99218 Active Member Member since:Jul 2014 Blu-ray collection:1	I didn't get a slipcover either. Last edited by vamatt99218; 06-29-2023 at 10:27 PM.

06-28-2023, 10:30 PM	#22
Endymion0000 Contributor Top contributor Member since:Oct 2011 Location:Orlando, FL 4K collection:161 Blu-ray collection:10800 DVD collection:3082 MA collection:922 Digital collection:1412 iTunes collection:1549 Prime collection:921	Yeah, I ordered mine June 3rd. Sorry. I think a number of additional factors come into play such as Prime vs not-Prime and your primary warehouse. So if an item is available at warehouse close to me but is not in the one's the primarily server your area, it may be that the priority goes to local shipments before they have to transport an item across the country, especially if your warehouse is earmarked for a shipment from the manufacturer that just hasn't come in yet and from what I've heard Kino has been short on getting titles to Amazon lately. I usually just order straight from Kino, but this time it was cheaper on Amazon. Although I do have another Kino order that should be out that hasn't shipped because they're now showing out of stock. So they could be having overall issues getting their discs in to then distribute them.

06-28-2023, 11:24 PM	#23
vamatt99218 Active Member Member since:Jul 2014 Blu-ray collection:1	I ordered mine on April 18th and Amazon's website states I will get it tomorrow.

06-29-2023, 12:25 AM	#24
Gacivory Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2016 Location:Los Angeles, California 4K collection:1125 Blu-ray collection:5618 DVD collection:183 Digital collection:25 Trading Score:1	Amazon has been having trouble getting Kino & Kino related discs out on release dat e for awhile now.

06-29-2023, 09:28 PM	#25
Loaded Man Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 Location:New York, NY 4K collection:600 Blu-ray collection:2312	I couldn't wait for Amazon to get it in stock so I ordered from Best Buy on Monday and received it today. I thought this title was going to have a slipcover but mine didn't come with one.

06-30-2023, 05:11 PM	#28
klapro Member Member since:Feb 2021	Anyone knows what's going on with this being out of stock everywhere?

07-02-2023, 01:56 AM	#30
Fabs Special Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2013 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:258 DVD collection:33	Hopefully, this sells well and shows that we want more Taiwanese cinema on Blu.

08-06-2023, 08:44 PM	#32
RMA Member Member since:Oct 2011 Location:Frankfurt am Main, Germany	As a big fan of Hsiao-Hsien Hou, this was a blind buy for me - and I was not disappointed. This might be the best restoration of an Asian film I've seen so far this year. The Blu-ray is extremely cinematic, with the world-class cinematography and period-typical palette perfectly preserved. Most importantly, the encoding is perfect despite the heavy neon tones, which is anything but a given. A few screencaps (all uncompressed PNGs):

02-28-2024, 02:10 PM	#35
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City 4K collection:28 Blu-ray collection:1145 Trading Score:69	Looks great to me.

02-28-2024, 04:21 PM	#36
Modren Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2019	Should Svet just stick to new releases from now on? It's obvious that he hates any new restoration of a film regardless of how it actually looks simply for being different from how it "originally" looked (on a DVD, 20 years ago, which he hasn't watched in ages). Maybe if he reviews Madame Web or whatever he'll have something constructive to say for once.

02-28-2024, 04:22 PM	#37
NeoNical Special Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2018 Blu-ray collection:3 DVD collection:7 Blu-ray reviews: 26	From the screenshots I have seen, this film looks amazing. There's no way this video should get a 2.5 just because of colors alone. That's putting other films with other video/encoding problems more credit. It does seem like the reviewer's scoring on the video depends mostly on the way the colors look and compare to previous releases but I think the problem with comparing to an older DVD release is that there was probably some kind of practice where companies would manipulate the colors of the film for its DVD counterpart. The reviewer seems to be comparing it to the French TF1 Video DVD. If I had to imagine what this film would actually look like in the 35mm prints that was utilized for its theatrical release, I would actually argue that the new 4K restoration looks more accurate than the older DVDs. I know that L'Immagine Ritrovata gets a lot of heat for their color grading and this reviewer in particular has given some rather intense scores for the films restored by this company but I actually think this one is well justified. Also the thing about the film now looking ordinary because of the 4K restoration but so much of this film has some amazingly beautiful cinematography with strong use of colors since there are so many scenes set in the rave culture. I just simply don't understand what the review is trying to argue about with colors because I think this is the strongest presentation that this film has ever gotten so far and that 2.5 score cannot, for the love of god, be justified based on color alone.

02-28-2024, 05:20 PM	#39
kikujirobill Member Member since:Jun 2010 Blu-ray reviews:2	Svet is a menace �� can you imagine working on these releases and putting out an exemplary product and having this clown crap all over it for no reason?! Using a DVD as a reference is absolutely hilarious and he does it every time.

02-29-2024, 04:49 AM	#40
Kylein24fps Member Member since:Apr 2020 Location:Sacramento, CA 4K collection:49 Blu-ray collection:869 DVD collection:219	Was able to see a very good 35mm print of this a few years ago at an LA rep theater and have to say that the screenshots posted in the review are very accurate to my lingering impression from that screening. I always avoided seeing this movie in college because of how ancient the DVD release was, even though I know that's the way almost every English speaking person first saw it. Thankfully that wasn't the case for me, as I got to see it in pristine, original fashion without any visual compromise. As is almost always the case, The Doctor is scary with how wrong his convictions are, in terms of both aesthetics and psychology. "Therefore, you must"

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