Hard Target (Universal)

[Socko]

I was hoping for a fully loaded Universal disc, but this looks barebones to me.

French ESC Editions BD and Kino UHD are enough for now.

[Gojira-96x]

Just got my copy 🤩

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[revoloution]

I got the UK Steelbook edition with all the tat and I’m so goad I did!

Firstly, the film HAS Dolby Vision, on the back on the cover it says HDR10 but when you play the Disc it says Dolby Vision on the playback info

Secondly, I have a Panasonic 820 UHD Player so the Kino Disc was constantly flipping between Dolby Vision and HDR to give that strobe effect, well on this Universal Dolby Vision Disc it doesn’t do that and it looks absolutely gorgeous

Lastly, the sound is the standard 5.1 DTS/HD and it absolutely rocks, I’m sure it’s the same as the one that was on the previous Bluray edition released here in Europe. The LFE channel sounds pretty aggressive and not lite like the Kino one.

I hope this helps to those on the fence about picking this Disc up

[IvyMike]

Originally Posted by revoloution

I got the UK Steelbook edition with all the tat and I’m so goad I did!

Firstly, the film HAS Dolby Vision, on the back on the cover it says HDR10 but when you play the Disc it says Dolby Vision on the playback info

Secondly, I have a Panasonic 820 UHD Player so the Kino Disc was constantly flipping between Dolby Vision and HDR to give that strobe effect, well on this Universal Dolby Vision Disc it doesn’t do that and it looks absolutely gorgeous

Lastly, the sound is the standard 5.1 DTS/HD and it absolutely rocks, I’m sure it’s the same as the one that was on the previous Bluray edition released here in Europe. The LFE channel sounds pretty aggressive and not lite like the Kino one.

I hope this helps to those on the fence about picking this Disc up

Interesting to hear about the 5.1 being different from the Kino. Looking back through threads it seems you had the German BD, which I have also and do agree sounds nice in the brief comparisons I made against the US BD.

However, I had noticed the left and right surround channels on the German BD 5.1 are swapped (yes, yet another channel swap problem in this title's history for some reason). If you check motorcycle sequences, that's an area where you'll notice it. I noticed it in different parts of the film, so it seemed like a complete channel swap, as opposed to a scene specific issue - but admittedly, that was only my first time seeing the film so I'm not well versed in it.

So that would be worth verifying on this new release since from what you're saying it seems like it has the same 5.1 mix as the German BD 5.1 (not sure if that 5.1 was used elsewhere - possibly the French BD too?).

[nicwood]

Originally Posted by IvyMike

Interesting to hear about the 5.1 being different from the Kino. Looking back through threads it seems you had the German BD, which I have also and do agree sounds nice in the brief comparisons I made against the US BD.

However, I had noticed the left and right surround channels on the German BD 5.1 are swapped (yes, yet another channel swap problem in this title's history for some reason). If you check motorcycle sequences, that's an area where you'll notice it. I noticed it in different parts of the film, so it seemed like a complete channel swap, as opposed to a scene specific issue - but admittedly, that was only my first time seeing the film so I'm not well versed in it.

So that would be worth verifying on this new release since from what you're saying it seems like it has the same 5.1 mix as the German BD 5.1 (not sure if that 5.1 was used elsewhere - possibly the French BD too?).

Yes, please let us know, revolution. This is the first time I’m hearing of dynamic range issues with the Kino audio but if true, I’d definitely get the new EU disc. For what it’s worth, I have no issues with the Kino in DV on my Panasonic player but glad to hear that everything works on your end.

[Hombre1]

What are the subtitels on this EU disc?

Originally Posted by revoloution

I got the UK Steelbook edition with all the tat and I’m so goad I did!

Firstly, the film HAS Dolby Vision, on the back on the cover it says HDR10 but when you play the Disc it says Dolby Vision on the playback info

Secondly, I have a Panasonic 820 UHD Player so the Kino Disc was constantly flipping between Dolby Vision and HDR to give that strobe effect, well on this Universal Dolby Vision Disc it doesn’t do that and it looks absolutely gorgeous

Lastly, the sound is the standard 5.1 DTS/HD and it absolutely rocks, I’m sure it’s the same as the one that was on the previous Bluray edition released here in Europe. The LFE channel sounds pretty aggressive and not lite like the Kino one.

I hope this helps to those on the fence about picking this Disc up

[barrett75]

can confirm no issue with DV and panasonic spinner with this universal release.

[revoloution]

I can confirm the audio is correct on this new disc, the left and right channels work perfectly with what’s happening on screen

[IvyMike]

It's good news the left and right are correct, but to be clear, the issue I found on the German 1080 BD was different from the initial Kino 4K problem. On the Kino 4K (before they corrected) it was left and right channel swapped. On the German BD though it was left surround and right surround swapped. For a lot of the film that's not noticeable, but if you go to scenes where the motorcycle comes at the camera for example you hear it flip in the wrong direction as the movement goes from front to back.

Good example for checking surround movement would be the scene around 56:55 (motorcycle under the freeway overpass).

[Agent Kay]

I'm back to getting discs after everyone again. My delivery blackhole returns!

[MR THX]

Does anybody know if the Universal UK 4K Release is indeed on a 100gb Disc like the Kino Release, iam Assuming this was 4k Restored by Universal Studios and sent to kino lorber for there 4k Boutique release??