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Old 07-13-2023, 01:30 PM   #21
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Why no BluRay with the UHD? I like having the BluRay too so there's a "backup copy" and for the versatility - I don't have UHD players on every TV in my house, or streaming devices. And I don't want to have it by "paying twice..."

It was same for Top Gun. Is this a decision made by Tom Cruise? "My movies shall not have a UHD AND a BluRay... two discs and a digital copy is just too much for $30+"

Part 2 will come out in a year ("internet" is saying 6/28/2024) - so I'll probably wait and see if the two parts get released as a set in latter half of 2024.
It's the studios decision.Paramount has been doing this for a bit.Transformers:Rise Of The Beast and Scream VI are the same deal. Standard 4K + Digital and standard Blu Ray + Digital. If you want both 4K + Blu Ray or Blu Ray + DVD, you have to get a steelbook release or a store exclusive.Or buy each standard release.

WB is now starting the same thing with The Flash movie. Standard 4K + Digital and standard Blu Ray + Digital. The Best Buy steelbook has both the 4K disk & Blu Ray disk as does the Walmart exclusive. The Target exclusive has a Blu Ray disk and a DVVD disk.

WB is even worse because it looks like they're starting the trend of leaqving special features off the lower tier format.The Flash Blu Ray is missing five featurettes and the deleted scenes.The 4K disk has all the special features.In my case,even though I'm getting the steelbook which has both formats,I don't have 4K so I won't be able to watch the missing special features.

50strat54 over in The Flash movie 4K thread gave a good read on this,I think.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...=361410&page=6

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What is happening here is the Studios no longer need to encourage you to move to the new format and will not be giving away ANYTHING.

1. Digital codes expire according to the date...buy it before expiration and pay more for the package instead of waiting two years for a discount and not code.

2. The studios know either you are in on 4K or not so no need to give you a free bluray

3. The studios know at this point you are either in or not on Bluray so no free DVD

4. It's possible no more codes in Bluray packages, they were rarely in DVD packages

Studios don't have to baby step you to the next format. You're either in or you're out

Streaming is the PRIORITY as there are NO manufacturing or inventory storage costs

I don't think Studios will put the next improvement 8K on physical, just digital.

We'll always have physical but it's presence in the retail world will diminish.

Welcome to the new real.

Buy up on BF to get your codes if that is important to you.

Studios love it that if you MUST have both bluray and 4K you'll have to buy both as I did on Sonic 2 and Snake Eyes. Fortunately the blurays both went for $7.99 sold off the bluray code on BF and paid $10 for the 4K

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Old 07-13-2023, 05:13 PM   #22
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Old 07-13-2023, 07:02 PM   #23
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My only complaint is the lack of bass..

It can't be the Dolby Cinema venue which I visit as I consider it the best for immersive audio and insane bass

Wondering if I am alone here? Is this like the Spiderverse where they messed up the digital file and later reissued with corrected audio?

Movie was excellent. Some couple of cringe scenes but man everyone have worked hard and most characters get good screen time.
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Old 07-13-2023, 07:14 PM   #24
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I watched it at an AMC Dolby Cinema last night. Absolutely crazy bass going on during the movie. Well done sound. This should make for another nice 4K disc offering with reference picture/sound.
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Old 07-13-2023, 07:39 PM   #25
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I watched it at an AMC Dolby Cinema last night. Absolutely crazy bass going on during the movie. Well done sound. This should make for another nice 4K disc offering with reference picture/sound.
Thanks. I did complain to the staffs about the lack of the bass. They said they haven't changed anything but will look into it. Sucks as I loved the movie and was fully into it but the lack of bass and even heights put me off.
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Old 07-14-2023, 12:24 PM   #27
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Thanks. I did complain to the staffs about the lack of the bass. They said they haven't changed anything but will look into it. Sucks as I loved the movie and was fully into it but the lack of bass and even heights put me off.
My Dolby had plenty of bass but I didn't notice much sound coming from the heights.
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Epic fail lol.

Not even aligning with the recently released ones.
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Guess fanmade art for all these steelbooks these days would look much better... Just using open source tools LOL.
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It's the studios decision.Paramount has been doing this for a bit.Transformers:Rise Of The Beast and Scream VI are the same deal. Standard 4K + Digital and standard Blu Ray + Digital. If you want both 4K + Blu Ray or Blu Ray + DVD, you have to get a steelbook release or a store exclusive.Or buy each standard release.

WB is now starting the same thing with The Flash movie. Standard 4K + Digital and standard Blu Ray + Digital. The Best Buy steelbook has both the 4K disk & Blu Ray disk as does the Walmart exclusive. The Target exclusive has a Blu Ray disk and a DVVD disk.

WB is even worse because it looks like they're starting the trend of leaqving special features off the lower tier format.The Flash Blu Ray is missing five featurettes and the deleted scenes.The 4K disk has all the special features.In my case,even though I'm getting the steelbook which has both formats,I don't have 4K so I won't be able to watch the missing special features.

50strat54 over in The Flash movie 4K thread gave a good read on this,I think.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...=361410&page=6
Unfortunately, with Paramount, paying the premium for the steel isn't any kind of guarantee it'll include a standard BD either. They've already released at least 15 steels that I know of that are 4K only, not counting tv seasons. This one initially had a lower entry point than others, which had me concerned it would be another 4K-only release. But then target bumped it up five bucks, so who knows.

We preordered... to catch the 20% off deal, but even with that we'll be canceling the order, if it doesn't include a BD - even if the case design wasn't so uninspired. We have absolutely no faith in 4K product testing, player support, nor replication standards at present, so a 2K backup is still a must for us. But we still have FAR more faith in 4K discs than digital in every possible way.

The way I see it the only remotely viable excuse for studios to drop the 2K discs is to reduce strain on replicators, so that they can actually get quality standards back to respectable levels. But, the studios themselves have shown such utter disinterest or lack of concern for the collector market for so long, a market that they so aggressively built for decades, I rather doubt that replication quality concerns has much, if anything to do with it. If they weren't so blinded by abject greed, they'd work to re-open enough facilities to effectively meet current demand, rather than pushing the limits of what the remaining operations can handle in their desperate hopes that demand will have dwindled to match in another five or so years as a result of their ever-increasing and deliberate neglect.

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Old 07-16-2023, 12:39 AM   #31
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My only complaint is the lack of bass..

It can't be the Dolby Cinema venue which I visit as I consider it the best for immersive audio and insane bass

Wondering if I am alone here? Is this like the Spiderverse where they messed up the digital file and later reissued with corrected audio?

Movie was excellent. Some couple of cringe scenes but man everyone have worked hard and most characters get good screen time.
I saw it twice in IMAX at two different venues and the bass sounded pretty great. Granted, it wasn't at John Wick 4 levels, but I have doubts about another mix that aggressive ever existing again
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Old 07-16-2023, 12:51 AM   #32
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Does it say 'to be continued' at the end?
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Does it say 'to be continued' at the end?
[Show spoiler]It says END OF PART ONE
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Old 07-16-2023, 03:47 AM   #34
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I don’t really care that much about steelbooks but the red one for this is really badass so I may have to go it over the standard.
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Old 07-16-2023, 04:18 AM   #35
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I got the red Target 4K Steelbook for 25% off so under 29 not bad for it!
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We have absolutely no faith in 4K product testing, player support, nor replication standards at present, so a 2K backup is still a must for us. But we still have FAR more faith in 4K discs than digital in every possible way.
My feelings exactly. Of the ~145 4K discs I have bought so far, 5 or 6 of them have had playback issues, and even more have had microscratches (particularly Disney/Marvel) - even when received on the first day of release so I know they aren't returns.

I have never had that kind of defect rate with 2K BluRay. I have well over 1000 2K BluRays and have only had 3-5 that had defects when I received them, and they were long since released, possibly returned media. That's a much lower percentage defects.
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[Show spoiler]It says END OF PART ONE
It says
[Show spoiler]"END PART ONE", without the OF.
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Unfortunately, with Paramount, paying the premium for the steel isn't any kind of guarantee it'll include a standard BD either. They've already released at least 15 steels that I know of that are 4K only, not counting tv seasons. This one initially had a lower entry point than others, which had me concerned it would be another 4K-only release. But then target bumped it up five bucks, so who knows.

We preordered... to catch the 20% off deal, but even with that we'll be canceling the order, if it doesn't include a BD - even if the case design wasn't so uninspired. We have absolutely no faith in 4K product testing, player support, nor replication standards at present, so a 2K backup is still a must for us. But we still have FAR more faith in 4K discs than digital in every possible way.

The way I see it the only remotely viable excuse for studios to drop the 2K discs is to reduce strain on replicators, so that they can actually get quality standards back to respectable levels. But, the studios themselves have shown such utter disinterest or lack of concern for the collector market for so long, a market that they so aggressively built for decades, I rather doubt that replication quality concerns has much, if anything to do with it. If they weren't so blinded by abject greed, they'd work to re-open enough facilities to effectively meet current demand, rather than pushing the limits of what the remaining operations can handle in their desperate hopes that demand will have dwindled to match in another five or so years as a result of their ever-increasing and deliberate neglect.
Paramount wants you to buy the blu-ray now if you're still 1080p, then buy the 4K as well when you upgrade your set-up.
Thankfully the international releases are 4K+BD, so you don't have to deal with this crap.
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My only complaint is the lack of bass..
I thought so too for the most part with the exception of the
[Show spoiler]Russian sub explosion
in the opening scene and near the end with the
[Show spoiler]successive explosions that blew the bridge so the Orient Express would fall
. For some reason, those two I FELT in my ribs, but the rest seemed very loud but flat. (Seen in a LieMax AMC theater).

Loved the movie though. It's a cliché at this point, but TC always brings it. Those
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I thought so too for the most part with the exception of the
[Show spoiler]Russian sub explosion
in the opening scene and near the end with the
[Show spoiler]successive explosions that blew the bridge so the Orient Express would fall
. For some reason, those two I FELT in my ribs, but the rest seemed very loud but flat. (Seen in a LieMax AMC theater).

Loved the movie though. It's a cliché at this point, but TC always brings it. Those
[Show spoiler]flapping cheeks
were hilarious.
I only experienced that Peter tingle bass at the very end. I am confident it s the venue which has been the best for AV till date. I will visit the same venue
for Meg 2 and if it stays the same, I wil stage a protest lol. The screen is also 70% that of IMAX screen. I sit in the same spot C11/12.
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