Time to leave oppo

[hanshotfirst1138]

Originally Posted by Cortiz

Agreed about all the Oppo comments. However, not everyone needs all the Oppo feautures.

What features make it so special? I’m thinking of going 4K, and it’s touted as the GOAT.

[kingreed]

Both Sony and Panasonic need to invest in better 4K Technology to properly develop their 4K Blu Ray players.

[steel_breeze]

"Never gonna give you up
Never gonna leave Oppo"...

All three of my Oppo players in the home theater got some lovin' over the last 36 hours or so; watched Friday the 13th Part VI with some friends on Friday night using the backup 203 (it is a Guilty Pleasure flick for me, after all), then listened yesterday to the Prince & The Revolution album "Around the World in a Day" (the first CD I ever bought back in '86 -- still plays great!) using my ancient Oppo 83, then watched the 4K disc of E.T. with the wife last night on my "Oppo Prime" 203.

Except for some occasional and head-shakingly random sync problems on the ancient BDP-83 (which are on-going to this day, so I mainly use it for CDs and SACDs) and a one-time, non-repeatable glitch during the 4K of Jaws two years ago, I've never had ANY playback issues. Love. These. Players.

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by kingreed

Both Sony and Panasonic need to invest in better 4K Technology to properly develop their 4K Blu Ray players.

The Panasonics are better in upscaling from HD to 4K than Oppo, the Sonys are identical in 4K playback quality to the Oppo. The Panasonics are better than Oppo in 4K playback. What else do you want?

[Cortiz]

If you mean by oversharpening the image, then yes. You are correct. Sharper image doesn't necessary means better PQ. Better 4K playback? That depends, if you take the optimizer out of the equation, playback is essentially the same. Today's TV have vastly improved tone mapping, so unless you are still stuck with an old tv with crappy tone mapping, the optimizer is irrelevant.

[sapiendut]

HDR Optimizer is a feature. Nobody is talking about HDR Optimizer. I’m talking about picture quality, upscaling quality, chroma upsampling quality.

[un4gvn94538]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

The Panasonics are better in upscaling from HD to 4K than Oppo, the Sonys are identical in 4K playback quality to the Oppo. The Panasonics are better than Oppo in 4K playback. What else do you want?

Reliability. My sony ubp-x800m2 would always freeze and lock up on 4k discs. The replacement i was sent was worse. Came to a point when the 4k locked up I would put the blue in my oppo bd83 so I didn't have to worry about it freezing. Unfortunately I somehow missed the oppo 4k players. My Panasonic DP-UB820 has been flawless for 2 years now. But I read how people have issues with it as well.

[Cortiz]

Yes, that is exactly what i'm talking about. I have owned all players at one point and 4K playback is the same to my eyes. I prefer the upscaling on the Oppo. It doesn't oversharpens the image like the Panny.

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by un4gvn94538

Reliability. My sony ubp-x800m2 would always freeze and lock up on 4k discs. The replacement i was sent was worse. Came to a point when the 4k locked up I would put the blue in my oppo bd83 so I didn't have to worry about it freezing. Unfortunately I somehow missed the oppo 4k players. My Panasonic DP-UB820 has been flawless for 2 years now. But I read how people have issues with it as well.

Well, for the Sony fanbois they claim the random freezing is normal.

Both my Panasonic 820, two Panasonic 9000 and Magnetar 800 so far are as reliable is my Oppo 203 (until it was dead) and Oppo 205 (I sold it as it is not better than my Pana and Magnetar.

[amper]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Well, for the Sony fanbois they claim the random freezing is normal.

Both my Panasonic 820, two Panasonic 9000 and Magnetar 800 so far are as reliable is my Oppo 203 (until it was dead) and Oppo 205 (I sold it as it is not better than my Pana and Magnetar.

This is very helpful. I think reliability and dependability on best quality I can get are also what I want. Also, which one is better? Panasonic 9000 or Magnetar 800?

[sapiendut]

I still prefer the look of Panasonic 9000 video. I don’t use hacked version of the 9000 as I bought one for region A and another for region B

[growly]

I don’t know anyone who buys any kind of disc, be it CD, DVD, blu ray or 4k.

The Panasonic DP-UB820 is adequate for most people buying into 4k disc playback.

It’s a very good 4k player, and as has been said, it’s an excellent blu ray upscaler, better than the Oppo. As techradar said ‘The Panasonic DMP-UB820 is easily the best 4K Blu-ray player on the market for most people’. The Panasonic may not do everything the Oppo does, but many people probably don’t want what the UB820 offers at the price and will buy the 450 or 150. Most people don’t care about the features you’re praising the Oppo for.

There’s the ‘REAVON UBR-X200’ if you can find one. Or the x100. Don’t the PlayStation and x-box play 4k discs?

I don’t think we will see much on the hardware front.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by kingreed

I disagree on this statement. I think that both Sony and Panasonic will release new 4K blu ray players especially since more stores are now offering 4K movies and Blu ray movies on physical. From what I understand Sony and Panasonic will release when they are ready.

I'm not sure where you're located geographically, your profile doesn't say.

However, in the US, that's not true. Stores around me in Los Angeles are all downsizing or entirely eliminating physical media. The same has been true when I've traveled elsewhere in the US lately.

For example, the big Barnes & Noble flagship store at The Grove here in LA moved all their physical media from prime space covering most of the first floor to a crner of the top floor a couple of years ago, and they recently scaled even that section WAY, WAY back.

Even Amoeba, the world famous music/media store, downsized their physical media movie section ENORMOUSLY when they moved in 2021. And their UHD section is only about 6 feet of one single aisle.

And of course the Best Buy near me, like the entire chain, eliminated physical media entirely at the beginning of this year. (It had only been two pitiful shelves at the back of the store for the last few years anyway.)

The UHD market is a strong but very small niche market. I don't see any signs of it growing, and I don't see any signs of an LP-style resurgence in movies on disc any time soon.