Star Wars in 1080p!

[stow123]

ryoohki i have its not jaw dropping or anything is it lol

[WickyWoo]

thread seems to be missing the torrent

I highly suggest that no one post a torrent or cite a location for finding it either

[xtop]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

I highly suggest that no one post a torrent or cite a location for finding it either

haha i forgot where i was my bad

[CptGreedle]

Well I will comment on these.
No broadcast is in 1080p, so these are probably merely 1080i. A single screenshot will not show this, it is in the motion that it can be seen.
I also find it hard to beleive that Lucas would release this as the quality is not as good as I'd hoped it would be. Here's why..
The original images are in 480, which make them look blurred, almost fuzzy and out of focus. It lacks the details and the depth the 1080 has. However the 1080 lacks the color it should have. The color in the face of Leah is washed out and almost gray, not flesh toned. This is apparent in all the images and needs major adjustment to look optimal as Lucas normally sets things. The original shots are blown out, meaning the 480 has darks that loose information (too dark) and highlights that lose information (too bright), cause from being over-contrasted. This technique is used to make a demo or a TV look more dynamic, but you often lose a LOT of information and things can literally disappear in the black or light. However the 1080 goes too far. The contrast is lost and there is not enough form as a result. Things start to look flat and shapeless. Getting the right balance of light, dark, and contrast is very important in a movie and of these images I see, both formats fail at this.
Banding is also an issue. If you look closely at the face of Obi-wan, there is distinct banding in the shadows near his nose. Again on Leah's face when she is in the Millennium Falcon, the shadows on her check have a similar banding effect. This could be a compression issue, or some similar artifact.
Finally, the grain looks almost like a digital effect to me. It has a distinct look that appears to be artificial, even possibly an artifact from up-converting. I will not go as far as to say these are up-converted as there is more detail in the 1080 versions than the 480, which leads me to believe these are HD in some form. However it is possible they are only 720, and up-converted to 1080, or they were given artificial grain to hide special effects or bring in lost detail in shadows. It is not very strong grain so it is also possible the grain was artificially reduced, which can result in a similar look like this.
Final thoughts, this is not the final HD transfer we will see on Blu-ray. Although it is a definite improvement over the SD release, it does not appear to be up to the standard quality of a Blu-ray disc. I expect Lucas will go over these movie with a fine comb to make sure everything is perfect when he is ready to release them to Blu (hopefully sooner rather than later).
Well that is my critique. Hope to see more SW related threads soon

[The Don]

Originally Posted by CptGreedle

Well I will comment on these.
No broadcast is in 1080p, so these are probably merely 1080i. A single screenshot will not show this, it is in the motion that it can be seen.
I also find it hard to beleive that Lucas would release this as the quality is not as good as I'd hoped it would be. Here's why..
The original images are in 480, which make them look blurred, almost fuzzy and out of focus. It lacks the details and the depth the 1080 has. However the 1080 lacks the color it should have. The color in the face of Leah is washed out and almost gray, not flesh toned. This is apparent in all the images and needs major adjustment to look optimal as Lucas normally sets things. The original shots are blown out, meaning the 480 has darks that loose information (too dark) and highlights that lose information (too bright), cause from being over-contrasted. This technique is used to make a demo or a TV look more dynamic, but you often lose a LOT of information and things can literally disappear in the black or light. However the 1080 goes too far. The contrast is lost and there is not enough form as a result. Things start to look flat and shapeless. Getting the right balance of light, dark, and contrast is very important in a movie and of these images I see, both formats fail at this.
Banding is also an issue. If you look closely at the face of Obi-wan, there is distinct banding in the shadows near his nose. Again on Leah's face when she is in the Millennium Falcon, the shadows on her check have a similar banding effect. This could be a compression issue, or some similar artifact.
Finally, the grain looks almost like a digital effect to me. It has a distinct look that appears to be artificial, even possibly an artifact from up-converting. I will not go as far as to say these are up-converted as there is more detail in the 1080 versions than the 480, which leads me to believe these are HD in some form. However it is possible they are only 720, and up-converted to 1080, or they were given artificial grain to hide special effects or bring in lost detail in shadows. It is not very strong grain so it is also possible the grain was artificially reduced, which can result in a similar look like this.
Final thoughts, this is not the final HD transfer we will see on Blu-ray. Although it is a definite improvement over the SD release, it does not appear to be up to the standard quality of a Blu-ray disc. I expect Lucas will go over these movie with a fine comb to make sure everything is perfect when he is ready to release them to Blu (hopefully sooner rather than later).
Well that is my critique. Hope to see more SW related threads soon

exactly...I have IV, V and VI saved to my DVR in HD and they clearly look better than the pics that were posted for the reasons you mentioned above...

I don't understand why the pics look so washed out...but it gives off a very soft look...

[MrVorhees]

wow the differents are so tiny, its definitely NOT worth to updrage the DVD, if the upcomming BD will look like this! and YES i clicked on the image!

[mdm1699]

Originally Posted by GSX600F

wow the differents are so tiny, its definitely NOT worth to updrage the DVD, if the upcomming BD will look like this! and YES i clicked on the image!

It's all about the detail. Don't expect it to look as if the movie was made yesterday.

[Hollywood81]

Ok so those pics are in 1080i! I didnt think they looked as good as they should have. I cant wait till the SW collection comes out on BD its going to be blugasmic! (lol second time ive used that in two posts)

[MarekM]

Originally Posted by GSX600F

wow the differents are so tiny, its definitely NOT worth to updrage the DVD, if the upcomming BD will look like this! and YES i clicked on the image!

I am not sure where are you looking....
the difference si NIGHT AND DAY my friend...

Marek

[Blu-Beard]

Originally Posted by GSX600F

wow the differents are so tiny, its definitely NOT worth to updrage the DVD, if the upcomming BD will look like this! and YES i clicked on the image!

Do you realize you had to hover the cursor over the pic to see the HD?

[Wreck]

its easier if you double click the pic, then hover. Incase your having trouble seeing it, like me.

[Blufury]

Looks nice. Its a shame we're going to have to wait a while.

[SteveOne]

Cant see Fox or Lucas holding back now that Blu-Ray has secured victory in the battle of good and evil...

I wouldn't be suprised if they were out for christmas 2008

[MATTYBLU2]

Originally Posted by SteveOne

Cant see Fox or Lucas holding back now that Blu-Ray has secured victory in the battle of good and evil...

I wouldn't be suprised if they were out for christmas 2008

we can only hope!!!

cant even imagine what it will look like on blu

[Brian Cash]

They play them on HBO hd all the time but its only broadcasted in 720p....well thats what I heard

[Entertainment72]

Wasn't impressed.. looks like my sony $130 dvd player with 1080i upconvert did that.. meh. Hope it doesnt even come close to looking like that on BD or I'd have to give a coal tier PQ level.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by Entertainment72

Wasn't impressed.. looks like my sony $130 dvd player with 1080i upconvert did that.. meh. Hope it doesnt even come close to looking like that on BD or I'd have to give a coal tier PQ level.

trust me...if HBO HD version looks better...then the BD version will look 10x better..

[andyn1080]

i recorded all 6 on my comcast dvr box but i couldnt figure out how to get them off the box and on my HDD. i asked around here but no one had an answer. btw those screen dont really inpress me, just looks like they cranked up the sharpness and contrast.

[statikcat]

I have all LOTR in similar format. It looks a lot better than the DVD but not close to a Blu-ray. Plus they are mkv format which is not easy to stream to your tv with any media player.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by statikcat

I have all LOTR in similar format. It looks a lot better than the DVD but not close to a Blu-ray. Plus they are mkv format which is not easy to stream to your tv with any media player.

you can burn them to a DVD9 and watch that way...

some up-conversion DVD players will play them and if you have a HD set....it will produce what you see on your computer...