When Evil Lurks 4K UHD (2023) (Shudder Films)

[mikey horror]

LOVE that cover

[MifuneFan]

The UK release is far away the better of the two, not just for the actual extras included, but it also will have an exclusive HDR/DV grade produced by Second Sight. The US edition is sorely lacking in every area compared to the UK release.

[PNguyen]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

The UK release is far away the better of the two, not just for the actual extras included, but it also will have an exclusive HDR/DV grade produced by Second Sight. The US edition is sorely lacking in every area compared to the UK release.

yup, Target won't let me cancel my preorder so I will just return it once I get it in the mail

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

The UK release is far away the better of the two, not just for the actual extras included, but it also will have an exclusive HDR/DV grade produced by Second Sight. The US edition is sorely lacking in every area compared to the UK release.

Serious question: is an HDR grade actually a good thing when the film was released in 4K SDR? If the filmmaker wanted HDR wouldn't they have released it that way to begin with as the tech was available?

[GaragePoet]

i'ma need a region free player

edit: neeeevermind. i assumed the features would only be on the region B bluray disc, but i see there's also a 4K-only edition that contains all the features. i don't need the rigid slipcase, book & art cards, etc

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Serious question: is an HDR grade actually a good thing when the film was released in 4K SDR? If the filmmaker wanted HDR wouldn't they have released it that way to begin with as the tech was available?

Good God, man, what are you prattling on about now?

https://x.com/secondsightfilm/status...nWbs8_UE_GqZoQ

https://x.com/secondsightfilm/status...nWbs8_UE_GqZoQ

[eXtofer]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Serious question: is an HDR grade actually a good thing when the film was released in 4K SDR? If the filmmaker wanted HDR wouldn't they have released it that way to begin with as the tech was available?

yes

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

Good God, man, what are you prattling on about now?

https://x.com/secondsightfilm/status...nWbs8_UE_GqZoQ

https://x.com/secondsightfilm/status...nWbs8_UE_GqZoQ

I understand the Second Sight grade is director approved for home video, but a lot of things are director approved for home video.

My question was, if the director preferred HDR why wasn't it released that way to begin with, given the tech was widely available?

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by Ruined

I understand the Second Sight grade is director approved for home video, but a lot of things are director approved for home video.

My question was, if the director preferred HDR why wasn't it released that way to begin with, given the tech was widely available?

That was 100% literally not your question, and everyone can read that and plainly see for themselves. You have a pathology, sir.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

That was 100% literally not your question, and everyone can read that and plainly see for themselves. You have a pathology, sir.

It was tho.

I was looking to maybe buy this.

As far as I can tell, the original master for this movie when it premiered in 2023 was 4K SDR. So to me, that makes me think the people that made it wanted this to be in 4K SDR for whatever reason, as HDR was widely available for years prior to 2023.

It's hard sometimes to figure out what is added for marketing purposes to sell home video copies, and what is actually an improvement, as the "director approved" stamp is thrown around quite a bit, to the extent where we've had multiple releases that look totally different despite both being director approved.

Was there any place that this debuted in 4K HDR in 2023 or even now? No, right? This is just a custom 2025 Second Sight grade? In that case, if the Shudder is 4K SDR I will probably go that route, as my hunch would be the director preferred it to be SDR if that is how it was originally released given how widespread HDR was in 2023. There is no way to know for sure of course, as the director would never shit on either release, but that would be my guess.

[descender421]

Got the regular version in from Target the other day but got it for like $16 as part of the deal a couple months back. Now wondering if I should double dip with the Second Sight. Magic 8 ball probably points to yes.

[kamkam]

The hdr cost money. Just like terrifier 3 4k, the USA release had no Dolby vision because they didn’t want to pay the license to use it so they released it 4k sdr. I’m sure someone can find the quote from the company stating that.

So I’m sure this is the same thing. Shudder didn’t want to pay for the license to use the hdr/dolby vision.

[kamkam]

Here this is

https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/co...no_hdr_on_the/

[Bugg]

I get Ruined's point though. I can't see any record of this film being in HDR anywhere. It's not like it had a Dolby Vision DCP or streaming version, that Shudder just didn't want to license for their disc. If the film itself was finished in SDR, then it does seem a bit like it's simply getting a new HDR grade because some people throw tantrums over lack of HDR on a 4K, as evidenced by some of the reddit posts in the above linked thread

"The worst decision I've made was buying the criterion released 4k of The Others not even thinking for a second they would not include HDR apparently the stupid director thought it would make his movie not the way he envisioned it. No shit Sherlock it would have made it look fabulous!!!. I'm still holding out hope they release it without his input with HDR it's one of my favorite films."

lame...then don't release it if you are forced to release an inferior version. All you're doing is trying to scam/trick ignorant customers into buying your inferior product.

No HDR10, no buy, no exceptions. It would be like buying a 1080i60 Blu-ray with Dolby Digital Plus or DTS HD High-Resolution.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by kamkam

The hdr cost money. Just like terrifier 3 4k, the USA release had no Dolby vision because they didn’t want to pay the license to use it so they released it 4k sdr. I’m sure someone can find the quote from the company stating that.

So I’m sure this is the same thing. Shudder didn’t want to pay for the license to use the hdr/dolby vision.

HDR10/HDR10+ is royalty-free.

Originally Posted by Bugg

I get Ruined's point though. I can't see any record of this film being in HDR anywhere. It's not like it had a Dolby Vision DCP or streaming version, that Shudder just didn't want to license for their disc. If the film itself was finished in SDR, then it does seem a bit like it's simply getting a new HDR grade because some people throw tantrums over lack of HDR on a 4K, as evidenced by some of the reddit posts in the above linked thread

That's what it seems like to me. I bet Second Sight would have a hard time selling it for $50 if it was 4K SDR, even if that is probably the best way to present it given all that we know to date! Quite a lot of people (not including myself) feel paying a premium price for a 4K SDR disc is not worth it. As far as I can tell, the same thing happened with the release of Late Night with the Devil - master was finished in 4K SDR, but Second Sight felt compelled to release in HDR so they did their own grade for home video.

[PNguyen]

My Target copy got obliterated by shipping, well that's an easy return anyways.

[Mandalorian]

I’m getting the second sight release, but my target pre-order came in today and holy shit. There’s actually a title on the paper insert spine this time lol

[stigdu]

Originally Posted by deadheadbill

I love this movie... up until the last 3 minutes. Still, I wasn't gonna bite on the 4k, but at that price I grabbed it.

Kinda agree. I thought it started off a little slow, then got really, really interesting and quite tense, then meandered off near the end, say the last half hour.

Still a lot better than what passes as horror nowadays, though.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by PNguyen

My Target copy got obliterated by shipping, well that's an easy return anyways.

Target is great with returns, one of the best sites to order from these days

[TheNickSweat]

I could've sworn this was listed as a steelbook when I originally preordered it. It got here today, along with The Creep Tapes blu-ray, from Atomic and it's definitely a standard case with a slip.