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Old 05-16-2008, 10:47 PM   #21
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There is a difference between overt racism and unintended racism. It all depends on the time period, general audience perspective, etc. When these 4 films came out, Mass Media basically didn't exist. Certainly not like it does today. Given that, it was difficult to gauge how different regions of the country (and world) would react to things. There are a lot of films out there which were labeled racist, without that being the intent of the writer/producer/director.
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Old 10-20-2008, 05:29 AM   #22
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Is a BR only release possible for next year, or will Disney more likely wait another decade, to bring it out of "the vault" since their recent DVD release?
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Old 10-20-2008, 05:42 AM   #23
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My girl wants this really bad.....so i will be buying it !!!
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Old 10-20-2008, 06:08 AM   #24
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i'd prefer this or beauty and the beast.
I'm one of those who isn't too happy with Sleeping Beauty. While I respect the history of animation, Sleeping Beauty is probably my least favorite Disney Animated feature.
I'm so with you. I can't wait for Beauty and the Beast. Aladdin will be great too...
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Old 10-20-2008, 06:48 AM   #25
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man oh man, i can't wait for aladdin. and the lion king. the jungle book. the fox and the hound. 101 dalmations. robin hood. cinderella. the little mermaid. boy, there's so many... i love disney movies!
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What's on the BBFC is for this:


http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/55989...n/Product.html

Sadly its just a cheap DVD cash-in re-release. (This time a single disc rather than two, and mostly supplemented by kiddie games and nonsense). The "Part Subtitled" refers to the lyrics being on screen for songs, not any PiP, information or trivia track.
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Well Beauty & the Beast is like the cream of the crop Platinum title compared to Snow White.
Cream of the crop? Which crop are you talking about? The rushed, sloppy, derivative, loosey-goosey modern crop? Or the refined, bold, inspired, technical stunners of Walt's era?
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Although some of their earlier films (Dumbo, Fantastia) were quite racist and some other films were quite disturbing and distressing (Pinocchio, Bambi).
How in the world was Dumbo racist? A central character who is an outcast because of his physical features is mentored and inspired by a group made up of an American ethnic minority also made to feel like outcasts in society? Dumbo is a statement AGAINST racism and judging people by their appearance, which is why it was so important that "black people" are the ones who stand by and inspire Dumbo to overcome.

If you can't see that and all you see are "black crows", then you're the racist, not Walt.

Having said that, the pickaninny Centaur in Fantasia was regrettable racial humour that permeated the works of all the American animation studios in the 40's, similar to how Middle-Eastern racial stereotypes have been so prevalent in modern animation (80's - today).

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Old 10-20-2008, 02:53 PM   #29
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Aladdin is an amazing movie! one of my fave disney movies ever! Cannot wait for this to be released along with lion king, nemo etc!
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Old 10-20-2008, 02:58 PM   #30
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Give me Aladdin, The Lion King, and Pixar's Toy Story and I'd be one very happy dude.
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It's important for Disney to stagger these releases to keep interest, and to keep up the quality and thoroughness of these blu-ray editions. I wouldn't want them to rush a bit.

What I would be thrilled to see is the promised Lilo & Stitch double disc re-imagined for Blu-Ray. Lilo & Stitch shouldn't be beholden to the platinum release schedule.
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Old 10-20-2008, 03:38 PM   #32
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It's important for Disney to stagger these releases to keep interest, and to keep up the quality and thoroughness of these blu-ray editions. I wouldn't want them to rush a bit.

What I would be thrilled to see is the promised Lilo & Stitch double disc re-imagined for Blu-Ray. Lilo & Stitch shouldn't be beholden to the platinum release schedule.
i agree with that! lilo stitch is an awesome movie as well!
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Old 10-20-2008, 03:45 PM   #33
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i agree with that! lilo stitch is an awesome movie as well!
I doubt getting Lilo & Stitch out on BD is a priority for the studio considering the DVD release has been out for nearly six years and has yet to go back into the vault.
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I'm so with you. I can't wait for Beauty and the Beast. Aladdin will be great too...
Are you serious ?

I can understand Sleeping Beauty not being an individual's favorite movie but, their least favorite ?

Sleeping Beauty is far more richer not only in it's animation but, also it's imaginative chemistry compared to Beauty And The Beast.

Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, And The Hunchback Of Notre Dame are more adult than most of Disney works.
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:40 PM   #35
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I feel it's a must to have Aladdin.

Aladdin has been one of my most favorite Disney movies since I was little.

Pocahontas
Sleeping Beauty
Beauty And The Beast
The Hunchback Of Notre Dame
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Aladdin are a must in my household.
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:46 PM   #36
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Are you serious ?

I can understand Sleeping Beauty not being an individual's favorite movie but, their least favorite ?

Sleeping Beauty is far more richer not only in it's animation but, also it's imaginative chemistry compared to Beauty And The Beast.

Sleeping Beauty, Snow White, And The Hunchback Of Notre Dame are more adult than most of Disney works.
It have nothing to do with richer or imagninative but how it marked you as a young person. Personnally it was Lion King. I like Sleeping Beauty and the Blu-ray is a work of art, but the pinnacle , for me, was Lion King. Altought i'll buy most if not all Disney 2D animation in a heartbeat regardless of the age of the production just because i like 2D animation.
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It have nothing to do with richer or imagninative but how it marked you as a young person. Personnally it was Lion King. I like Sleeping Beauty and the Blu-ray is a work of art, but the pinnacle , for me, was Lion King. Altought i'll buy most if not all Disney 2D animation in a heartbeat regardless of the age of the production just because i like 2D animation.
I enjoyed Lion King aswell, and I can most definitely understand that being someone's favorite or taking a big part in someone's life. I personally liked the Lion King for the same reasons as I do Sleeping Beauty, and that's because Lion King took on a cultural point of view, and the Music was great. Disney took a child (Fun) idea, and presented it in a Spiritual (Different) means that the whole family could enjoy.

Sleeping Beauty marked me more than Beauty And The Beast could ever have. Maleficent, the villain was done wonderfully, and sent goose bump down my skin, and she genuinely scared the crap out of me.
Aurora's voice was done by Mary Costa, and her operatic tone brought magic to the movie. Sleeping Beauty was Definitely Dreamy, I feel the animators realized that, and took this ancient Fairy Tale and presented it wonderfully ( The Animation they used)
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i'd prefer this or beauty and the beast.
I'm one of those who isn't too happy with Sleeping Beauty. While I respect the history of animation, Sleeping Beauty is probably my least favorite Disney Animated feature.
Beauty And The Beast and Sleeping Beauty are one of my favorites.

But, Sleeping beauty is definitely more mature (Better) than Beauty And The Beast, and I think Disney did mean it to be for both children, and adults alike where as Aladdin and Beauty And The Beast seem more childlike, bringing the child out of adults leading to it's Golden Globe Nomination.

But, Sleeping Beauty anyone could fall in love with it, with it's technique of both Animation, and creativity.
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Cream of the crop? Which crop are you talking about? The rushed, sloppy, derivative, loosey-goosey modern crop? Or the refined, bold, inspired, technical stunners of Walt's era?
Hmmm...Beauty and The Beast is the only animated film to be nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars. Not that that means a damn thing.

Personally, love the film. I like old school Disney (Walt) and only like BATB and Aladdin. All the others after (and The Little mermaid) are pretty dull...
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Hmmm...Beauty and The Beast is the only animated film to be nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars. Not that that means a damn thing.

Personally, love the film. I like old school Disney (Walt) and only like BATB and Aladdin. All the others after (and The Little mermaid) are pretty dull...

Seriously. Log Out, and educate yourself or at least have some intellect on Disney movies previous and after Beauty And The Beast or Aladdin.


I enjoy Beauty And The Beast definitely one of my favorites, too. <3
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