Sweeney Todd is bloody

[john_1958]

Originally Posted by Zyclone

i was expecting decent singers , and the lead roles failed to deliver.

you expect to much for a movie i think won oscar

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by john_1958

you expect to much for a movie i think won oscar

It winning an Oscar is supposed to mean "what" to me again????

[john_1958]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

It winning an Oscar is supposed to mean "what" to me again????

who said about you?

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by CptGreedle

For example, who would be villain of this story be?

The judge, who

[Show spoiler]stole his wife, drove her mad, and raised his daughter, now trying to marry her

?

Sweeney, who

[Show spoiler]was unrightfully condemned only to later return as a broken and vengeful man, bent on revenge and obsessed with getting as much of his old life back, only to kill his own wife without recognizing her

?

Mrs Lovett, who

[Show spoiler]hide the truth from Sweeney about his wife, using him like a tool for her own purposes, to make her shop a success and find a potential husband/family, and leading him into his vengeful state knowing full well his intentions and even conceiving of the plan to use his victims in the pies herself, only to have her lies fly back at her as the monster she created in Sweeney ends her life in the very oven she uses to make her pies

?

There sure is a lot to look at in this.

And what was in the movie was dumbed down by screenwriter John Logan (mostly Logan's recognizable fault, since Tim's heart wasn't in it enough to ruin)--

In the original stage musical, the "revenge" tragedy is more ironic:
Sweeney

[Show spoiler]dispatches the judge

, Mrs. Lovette's

[Show spoiler]fate backfires on her

, and even Joanna

[Show spoiler]almost ends up as Sweeney's unwitting victim

--
But the movie goes for the cheap Logan-style Little Movie Glossary default of having Toby

[Show spoiler]"heroically" protect/avenge Mrs. Lovett by dispatching Sweeney

whereas the stage musical ended with the Irony of Toby

[Show spoiler]going mad from the trauma of being locked in the cellar, and Sweeney ending up as the "accidental" casualty of his own creation

.

(And they cut out the narration songs to point out the whole Sondheim "social messaage" about Industrial-era Victorianism!
Of course,

[Show spoiler] no spoiler here, just wanted to see who'd look.

[wnicholas76]

I think Sweeney Todd is just as bloody as Tim Burton's Sleepy Hollow. While I liked Sweeney Todd for the story and singing, I really didn't like how the movie ended.

And I won't reveal the ending for anyone who hasn't seen it! Believe me, I'm not that crazy!

[sfmarine]

It wasn't that bad. Kill Bill is more bloody than ST.

[BluCrew]

Originally Posted by JonD7

I thought Sweeney Todd was an excellent film, one of my favorites, heck, I might even get a Sweeney tattoo!!!

Are u serious?

[Surfermouse]

Are you asking about the tattoo or the opinion of the movie? Because I agree--not about the tattoo thing--it was a fantastic movie and I think the only things it lacked were a couple of songs that were cut due to the incongruous mood, lack of a chorus line, etc.

[bluraypride1975]

[QUOTE=frettless5;977437]Sweeney Todd is bloody great!!!![/QU I have to agree with u 100% and i thought the singing was great