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Old 06-25-2008, 01:28 PM   #21
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Maybe he wants Lou Ferrigno back as the Hulk...lol
That's pretty funny! Definite buy! Did you catch ol' Lou as the security guard in the film?
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Old 06-25-2008, 01:44 PM   #22
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The only bad news here is that november is still far away. I cant wait for this one. And with Uni now using DTS-MA, this should be an awesome blu.
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Old 06-25-2008, 02:09 PM   #23
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So I guess this means that the first Hulk movie will be coming out at the same time?
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Old 06-25-2008, 02:27 PM   #24
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Hulk buy! Then Hulk find Ang Lee movie and SMASH!
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Old 06-25-2008, 02:47 PM   #25
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So I guess this means that the first Hulk movie will be coming out at the same time?
The odds are very good.
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Old 06-25-2008, 02:48 PM   #26
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Maybe he wants Lou Ferrigno back as the Hulk...lol
He already technically was. He voiced Hulk in Incredible Hulk.
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Old 06-25-2008, 03:43 PM   #27
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Yes, this movie was awesome and I agree with everyone that they should create a director's cut out that extra 70 minutes of footage.
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Old 06-25-2008, 04:10 PM   #28
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I'll rent it and give it 20 minutes just like everything else.
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Old 06-25-2008, 04:13 PM   #29
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Jason from reading many of your previous posts its an understatement to say that your a Hulk fan.

But i i dont get how you can like this more than the original? I've watched this twice and can't believe how bad this was. Its a big ball of CGI and they completely missed the whole point of the Hulk/Banner character.

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Yeah, I was a big fan of the TV show and the comic when I was younger (obviously still a fan but don't buy the comic anymore). I've seen this 6 times now and I can honestly say (I'm always careful with my statements or try to be) that the CGI Hulk is the best CG created character yet. Including Gollum, King Kong, The first Hulk, all of them. I wasn't positive the first couple of times I watched the movie, because I was watching the movie. But later I watched it once concentrating on trying to pick apart the look of the Hulk. Looking for flaws. So far I have found none. None. Are there CG flaws in the movie? Yes. I won't point them out because others may not have noticed. But there were no flaws with The Hulk himself.

Compare that to the original movie 5 years ago. The Hulk was constantly changing. He looked more like Ang Lee than Eric Bana. Even his body shape (sans muscles) was a copy of Ang Lee. I watch that movie and I see Lee playing the Hulk. It was a terrible rendition of The Hulk period. Very inconsistent in size as well (they got around this by saying that the madder he got the bigger he got. ) They didn't know how to convey the 'Madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets' aspect of The Hulk. The new movie did it perfectly. Twice. Once when he was
[Show spoiler]attacked by the sound wave cannons (a Stark Industries product)
and then again when
[Show spoiler]The Abomination had him pinned against the Wall ans he stabbed the Hulk in the chest with his extended arm bone.


So CGI in new Hulk was great. Everyone will see for themselves when they get or rent the blu and can analyze it better at home.

As for the story, it was a great chase movie. It really started out using the formula from the TV show (almost pace for pace) and then morphed into the comic book (the morph happened at the college when he and Betty left for the bus station. The only problem I had with the pacing was the Tony Stark scene. They should have put that after the credits. A better ending to the film would have been the last shot of Norton in the cabin. There were some scenes I wish would've made the cut, but I'm glad they cut most of them. I would of liked the prologue of Bruce in the Arctic. They could have put that in before the montage at the beginning. I'm sure the cut scene will be somewhere on the blu release. Pacing was very good for a chase movie though and adding much more would've taken away from that.

The first movie's story just wasn't a Hulk tale. The new one was taken from the comics from the late 70's early 80's (IMO) with the Savage Hulk. The Ang Lee version was too convoluted. I understood what he was trying to do, but the Hulk didn't need such a giant reinvention. And to make his Dad into the Absorbing man was terrible (The Absorbing man is a Thor villain). The Hulk's main villain is Banner and Banner's is the Hulk. The new movie hit this much better than Lee's Hulk. Banner wanted 'to get rid of it, not control it.' The pacing in Lee's Hulk was terrible. It was start and stop the entire film. Then theres the ending of the Hulk fighting, well, a metaphor. WTF?! Honestly the movie would've been better if Lee's Hulk would've been another color and they would've called him something else besides The Hulk. It just wasn't the Hulk. Not an entirely bad movie, just a bad Hulk movie. There's much more bad I could talk about in Lee's film, but I think it would be easier just to say watch the new version AND THEN go back and watch the 2003 version. I did. It was the most upset I had been about the movie (Lee's). I will say one last thing: The sound mix on Lee's Hulk was terrible (culminating in the embarrassing sounds they had the Hulk making). The sound mix in the new Hulk was off the charts.

I'm not sure what your problems with the movie are. I'd be happy to address them if you want to be more specific. I'm not into attacking anyone (I'm not perfect). But I'd be into a healthy debate with anyone except PSPlayer .
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Old 06-25-2008, 04:15 PM   #30
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I'll rent it and give it 20 minutes just like everything else.
That 20 minutes will stretch to 2 hours without you even realizing it.
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Old 06-25-2008, 04:23 PM   #31
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That's pretty funny! Definite buy! Did you catch ol' Lou as the security guard in the film?
lol yeah....I thought it was cool how they put him as a security guard in both of the HULK movies.
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Old 06-25-2008, 04:49 PM   #32
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Well we all know how much Universal likes to do the High Def 3 packs. Just what other title could be added to Incredible Hulk, and Hulk?
Hellboy 2 sounds reasonable.

Also The Hulk will be mine. The DTS will shake the house! Jason did you get to see it in a DLP cinema?

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Old 06-25-2008, 05:02 PM   #33
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Yeah, I was a big fan of the TV show and the comic when I was younger (obviously still a fan but don't buy the comic anymore). I've seen this 6 times now and I can honestly say (I'm always careful with my statements or try to be) that the CGI Hulk is the best CG created character yet. Including Gollum, King Kong, The first Hulk, all of them. I wasn't positive the first couple of times I watched the movie, because I was watching the movie. But later I watched it once concentrating on trying to pick apart the look of the Hulk. Looking for flaws. So far I have found none. None. Are there CG flaws in the movie? Yes. I won't point them out because others may not have noticed. But there were no flaws with The Hulk himself.

Compare that to the original movie 5 years ago. The Hulk was constantly changing. He looked more like Ang Lee than Eric Bana. Even his body shape (sans muscles) was a copy of Ang Lee. I watch that movie and I see Lee playing the Hulk. It was a terrible rendition of The Hulk period. Very inconsistent in size as well (they got around this by saying that the madder he got the bigger he got. ) They didn't know how to convey the 'Madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets' aspect of The Hulk. The new movie did it perfectly. Twice. Once when he was
[Show spoiler]attacked by the sound wave cannons (a Stark Industries product)
and then again when
[Show spoiler]The Abomination had him pinned against the Wall ans he stabbed the Hulk in the chest with his extended arm bone.


So CGI in new Hulk was great. Everyone will see for themselves when they get or rent the blu and can analyze it better at home.
I agree with you 100% At the time, I thought the first Hulk did a great job of weaving together CG and live-action, but this movie blew it away. It's hands down the best CG I've ever seen in a movie. The Hulk's skin has textures and his muscles looks stretched across his body and tense. Obviously, it doesn't look as good in the daytime as it does at night, but it still looks phenomenal. The scene with Betty and him in the cave during the rain made me believe that she was actually sitting next to the Hulk.
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Old 06-25-2008, 05:22 PM   #34
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The movie was awesome hope they add the 70 min back in will pick this up day one hope they make a sequel
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I agree with you 100% At the time, I thought the first Hulk did a great job of weaving together CG and live-action, but this movie blew it away. It's hands down the best CG I've ever seen in a movie. The Hulk's skin has textures and his muscles looks stretched across his body and tense. Obviously, it doesn't look as good in the daytime as it does at night, but it still looks phenomenal. The scene with Betty and him in the cave during the rain made me believe that she was actually sitting next to the Hulk.
I'm just glad someone took the time to read my post!
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Old 06-25-2008, 06:15 PM   #36
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I didn't hate the Ang Lee Hulk movie as much as many other people did, but this new one is still significantly better.

I will pick both up whenever they come out, but given the fact that they are trying to separate this new one from the old one, I don't think actually putting them in a 2-pack together would be a good idea (esspecially since this new one isn't really meant to be a direct sequel to the first one, though it does kind of/sort of work as one).

If anything, if they could get Paramount and Universal to agree to do so, I think an Iron Man/ Incredible Hulk 2-pack would be sweet, esspecially considering that they are the first two steps in the master plan to build up to the Avengers movie in 2011. (summer 2010 will be Iron Man II and Thor, 2011 will be Captain America and then the Avengers).

While I don't plan to wait for over 3 years to buy these movies, it will be cool if once all the films are done, they release a big boxed set of all the movies that connect into this plotline.
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Old 06-25-2008, 06:37 PM   #37
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I'm just glad someone took the time to read my post!
Hey dont worry i did too! Good points too. I did find Hulk 08 had worse pacing issues than the Ang Hulk?!?! Maybe just me. I'm gonna give it another bash and see how it goes. (Sorry i couldn't post more, crazy busy....wedding and all)
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