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Old 06-27-2008, 11:52 PM   #21
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I would probably buy this if/when it comes to Blu-Ray. It would definately look mindblowing.
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I think, if I recall correctky, TS was a 1.5K render so about 924 x 1536 to cover the European 1.66 Camera Aperture? So then you would have seen more or less around 790 x 1466 on a US screen.
I thought the Toy Story movie was a 720 line render?

And to the original poster, at least the first movie is being re-rendered for the cinema re-release next year. So a Blu-ray version based on this should look pretty damn good.
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Toy Story would look absolutely amazing!!! I wanna buy it SO bad.
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Old 07-06-2008, 12:22 AM   #24
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2K CGI has been the de facto standard for more than 20 years. I ask those who are claiming Toy Story was rendered in a 1.5K or 720 line process offer some sources for those claims.

Even if Toy Story was rendered in 2K, it's not going to look as sophisticated as a newer Pixar movie like Finding Nemo or Cars just due to limits on technology. CGI movies continue to evolve over the years and each Pixar release represents the high standards bar being raised again and again.

My feeling is that Pixar and Disney won't release the Toy Story movies on Blu-ray until after they're both re-released in movie theaters in digital 3D. That is the plan for Disney & Pixar in advance of the eventual release of Toy Story 3 3D.

If there are weaknesses in the original data tapes and other materials for Toy Story I'm sure Pixar will address those as they re-render two discrete camera eye views for digital 3D presentation. When Toy Story finally arrives on Blu-ray, it's probably going to look really good. Maybe not Wall•E good, but very good nonetheless.
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Old 07-06-2008, 02:00 AM   #25
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The Making Of Toy Story - Henne, Hickel COMPCON Spring '96

Communications of the ACM Vol 43 Issue 1. Porter, Susman
You can read part of this article here:
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2...6-27383429_ITM

This link http://www.sun.com/951201/cover/cover.html I had (no longer working) lead to a discussion of the various steps of rendering (quoted text abreviated):

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Rendering for Feature Films

The production of Pixar's 3-D animated films begins with the development of scripts and storyboards.

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Animation Test

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Animation test frames are rendered at a resolution of 360 by 216 pixels and require approximately 10 minutes of computing time per frame on a workstation-class machine. Timely feedback is important to speed the animators' creative process.

Lighting Test

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Pixar renders lighting test frames at a resolution of 720 by 432 pixels, requiring approximately 40 workstation-minutes per frame. Getting the lighting just right is difficult in any film, and a shot is often rendered several times before the lighting specialists are satisfied with the effects.

Final Rendering

When a shot passes both animation and lighting tests, final rendering is done. Pixar currently uses a resolution of 1536 by 922 with an effective 48 bits per pixel. First, the foreground where there is movement is rendered and stored with other frames in the shot. Next, the background is rendered, and then the foreground action is composited with the static background to form a complete frame. If the camera moves during a shot, both the foreground and background are completely rendered for each frame. Final rendering takes approximately 2.5 workstation-hours per frame before committing to photographic film.


Other stuff I have is buried in my retired 8600 Macintosh, but I remember one of the articles of the time said A Bug's Life was done at 2048, a step up above Toy Story, enough for the Scope format prints.

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Old 07-06-2008, 04:39 PM   #27
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It would be to infinity and beyond
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