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Old 08-30-2008, 10:35 PM   #21
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While waiting to get my Pro-Ject Debut III and Cambridge 640p Phono Stage. My friend loaned me a very good Technics 1983 turnable with brand new stylus on it. I'am listening to Madonna Immaculate collection.... and WOW never heard her sound that good on my receiver.. and i still don't have my stage yet! I bought like 15 album (New and Used) all the 180g, 45rpm Metallica, Hard Candy, 1 Cranberries album (rare) etc... i got several coming from Ebay. Even got my hand of Just Be from Tiesto (LOL 4LP!).

Vinyl have more dynamic range imho. that why it sound different. A lot of time CD have it's dynamic range compressed, not always but most of them. if you listen to them at the good volume, they sound more open and 'live' than CD

New Vinyl don't pop! Old ones need a good cleanup. Me and my friend are gonna buy the cleanup machine of a used vinyl, most of them are perfect without scratch but they have deposit on the sillion witch cause pop and crack.

Pro-Ject Debut 3 + Cambridge 640p Phono Stage is a very good start for about 525$...

Older disc Pop and crack, but can be cleaned. The machine + Cleaning Solution cost, but it's worth it imho if you are 2-3 on the same same it drag the price down.

you can see my list here

http://pages.infinit.net/raymanz/vinyl.htm

I'll take photos soon!
I also got he new half speed mastered metallica albums, master of puppets is incredible. i cant wait till they put out justice.
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I would have to add than a lot of Digital master are in a higher resolution than CD. DVDA and SACD was there of them. But failed due to people not caring much. Analog waveform doesn't have a sample rate, it's just that... a waveform created from the master. Even if it's digital, if they processed it in 96khz, 24bit... they'll convert that to analog for a vinyl press. Then it's the equipement that play enter in the process. If you're Phono Stage is crap, it won't sound good or less than it could be. If you're cartridge is sub par, it can't read the whole spectrum and reproduce it!
True, but it also added multi-channel sound and "audiophiles" didn't want that - if it was marketed as higher quality, not more speakers, and didn't have competing formats, it might have worked. Heck Blu Ray and HD-DVD might have gone the same way if HD-DVD didn't pull out.

Even if you could hear the difference in the sample rate of the digital master and the 44,100khz/16 Bit CD, I was just going along with the digital versus analog argument. If the vinyl is replicated from a 96/24 master, then it cannot sound better than that (digital) master, leaving people not in a position to say that analog sounds better than digital. So maybe we need a consumer audio format which keeps it at 96/24 stereo.
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