Computer-Generated Actors Closer than You Think

[hardcorefrokid]

Originally Posted by waaimasjien.

I'm too lazy to look it up, but wasn't a dead actor used in Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow?

Yes, can't tell you which actor because I'm lazy too.

[SeahawxBlu]

Originally Posted by waaimasjien.

I'm too lazy to look it up, but wasn't a dead actor used in Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow?

That would be Sir Lawrence Olivier...

[neos_peace]

Originally Posted by thedarkangel1975

I thought this going to be a thread on Keanu Reeves acting skills.

HEY now he kicked butt in the matrix films. NO lets not start in about the matrix deal, I started a thread about that a month or so ago.

[Septimus Prime]

Originally Posted by Cinema Jaguar

Perhaps one day cgi will replace actual actors and actresses but not as of now and they would most likely do voice overs anyways.

If advances in gaming get to point where holography or something similar to the movie west world become a reality then the gamer(s) or general consumer can be in their own movie with other players in a horror/scifi/western or whatever that can be conjured up.

It is plausible that this form of entertainment could replace the cinema experience but not necessarily so.

I believe they did pull off something similar in Revenge of the Sith, but the CG actors were composited into a wide shot and were relatively far from the foreground. They also happened to be moving constantly, so it was hard for the viewer to discern visually if they were real.

Interestingly enough, there's a principle (called something paradox, since I don't remember what it's called exactly) that states that, the closer a visual stand-in looks to photorealism, the more attention the viewer will pay and the more minute mistakes he will notice. It has something to do with biological processes that allow us to distinguish between individuals or something like that. So this is why Gollum still looks "better" than any CG human, since our brains aren't being tricked into thinking that he actually might be real.

[thedarkangel1975]

Originally Posted by neos_peace

HEY now he kicked butt in the matrix films. NO lets not start in about the matrix deal, I started a thread about that a month or so ago.

I liked Speed and The Matrix, but Keanu never seems to have any emotion. He was perfect in The Day The Earth Stood Still as an emotionless alien.

[J6P]

Originally Posted by Septimus Prime

I believe they did pull off something similar in Revenge of the Sith, but the CG actors were composited into a wide shot and were relatively far from the foreground. They also happened to be moving constantly, so it was hard for the viewer to discern visually if they were real.

Interestingly enough, there's a principle (called something paradox, since I don't remember what it's called exactly) that states that, the closer a visual stand-in looks to photorealism, the more attention the viewer will pay and the more minute mistakes he will notice. It has something to do with biological processes that allow us to distinguish between individuals or something like that. So this is why Gollum still looks "better" than any CG human, since our brains aren't being tricked into thinking that he actually might be real.

I think you're thinking of The Uncanny Valley, a robotics principle that also applies to CG film and video game characters.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Septimus Prime

Interestingly enough, there's a principle (called something paradox, since I don't remember what it's called exactly) that states that, the closer a visual stand-in looks to photorealism, the more attention the viewer will pay and the more minute mistakes he will notice. It has something to do with biological processes that allow us to distinguish between individuals or something like that.

Think you mean "Uncanny valley", which first came to our pop-cultural attention in reference to those creepy Polar Express characters...

(Which, to be fair, were supposed to reflect sketchy Chris Van Allsburg watercolors, but "fixed" with Robert Zemeckis's belief that Motion-Capture Can Cure Anything.<tm>)

[Septimus Prime]

Yup. That's what I was thinking of. I think I learned it in college (minored in digital arts) but have forgotten since.

[JUDGEMENT 4400]

This makes me think of James Cameron's Avatar. During an interview, he used the term "photo-realistic" CGI.

[supersix4]

I cant really stand full cgi movies just something about being all fake I can't get my head around... you know all movies are acting but now having those be fake... not for me

[Midnightsailor]

I prefer real actors...