The Phantom of the Opera (2004) - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

The Big Blue · 02-22-2008, 11:03 PM

I watched it. I liked it pretty well. Looked it up at Rotten Tomatoes

Oh well, don't tell anyone I liked it okay?

Saw this quote just now...

Quote:

Just remember this picture is made with hell-bent gusto by the guy who put nipples on Batman's superhero costume. So consider yourself warned.

The Guardian · 02-22-2008, 11:10 PM

Did they not use the same or virtually the same audio track on the DVD and the Blu-ray? Visually it was great, but I only got it because it was in the 5 free deal, I would not pay for it without lossless audio. It's a MUSICAL!!!! So why are the emphasizing the visual instead of the audio?

Hopefully we get a better release in the future. Until then, don't both buying it unless it's really cheap...

d0uble0se7en · 02-23-2008, 12:56 AM

You can also considering importing the film from Japan I believe. Isn't that a lossless audio track?

In terms of the film, I think it's awesome. It's not the greatest translation to film because it still maintains a very STAGED feel to it and I feel like that keeps you from judging it as solely a movie, but it's definitely worth a viewing. You probably have to see it twice or so to learn to like it. I find most musicals to be an adapted taste.

Unless of course you've seen the stage version and know it very well and just happen to fall in love with the movie version due to perfect casting/direction and dream every night about it coming out on blu-ray despite the fact that it's master studio releases on HD-DVD........

Have i ever mentioned on these boards how much I want Sweeney Todd on Blu-ray?

mtl007 · 02-23-2008, 01:02 AM

Phantom was my first blu-ray.

Me and my wife have seen the theatre / stage version and yet we still LOVE the movie, the songs, the cast plus all the extras on the disc.

Chaka · 02-23-2008, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d0uble0se7en

You can also considering importing the film from Japan I believe. Isn't that a lossless audio track?

In terms of the film, I think it's awesome. It's not the greatest translation to film because it still maintains a very STAGED feel to it and I feel like that keeps you from judging it as solely a movie, but it's definitely worth a viewing. You probably have to see it twice or so to learn to like it. I find most musicals to be an adapted taste.

Unless of course you've seen the stage version and know it very well and just happen to fall in love with the movie version due to perfect casting/direction and dream every night about it coming out on blu-ray despite the fact that it's master studio releases on HD-DVD........

Have i ever mentioned on these boards how much I want Sweeney Todd on Blu-ray?

Japan???? Lossless???? You don't say, really?

Man too bad the exchage rate sux nut. Its a sad day when the Canadian dollar is stronger than the US.

Robert Siegel · 06-27-2008, 01:52 PM

I thought I would open this thread today after discovering some info you might be interested in. The Japanese version of the Phantom of the Opera disc has an English Dolby True HD track AND an English 5.1 PCM track, so for those like me who want this soundtrack in all its glory, it is available from Amazon Japan and Yes Asia (cheaper at Amazon actually). The Yes Asia site shows Dolby True and PCM, and I language-converted the specs and they are both English tracks.

http://us.yesasia.com/jp/PrdDept.asp...id-1005055736/

ccfixx · 06-27-2008, 03:01 PM

One Amazon Japan reviewer posted the following specs about the Japanese release...

MPEG-4 AVC BD50
2:21:04
Movie size: 46,035,769,344
Disc size: 48,019,850,832
Average Video Bit Rate: 34.00 Mbps
LPCM 5.1 4608Kbps 16-bit
Dolby TrueHD 5.1 16-bit

CC

Robert Siegel · 06-28-2008, 03:44 AM

Well, those specs certainly would be, especially the soundtrack, the US release, PCM at 4.6 mbps, that's got to sound a heck of a lot better than Dolby Digital 640kbps.

lgans316 · 06-28-2008, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccfixx

One Amazon Japan reviewer posted the following specs about the Japanese release...

MPEG-4 AVC BD50
2:21:04
Movie size: 46,035,769,344
Disc size: 48,019,850,832
Average Video Bit Rate: 34.00 Mbps
LPCM 5.1 4608Kbps 16-bit
Dolby TrueHD 5.1 16-bit

CC

and that amazon.co.jp reviewer is me.

BStecke · 06-28-2008, 04:30 AM

Ooh, good catch . . . since it's my birthday today I'll be pointing this out to the wife

Charles3669 · 06-28-2008, 05:21 AM

Stage is stage film is film. No film is ever like the stage production unless they filmed the stage production. But if your a Phantom fan go for it.

BluCrew · 06-28-2008, 06:01 AM

[QUOTE=BStecke;419743]"The Guy" is none other than King Leonidas himself, Gerard Butler. And no, he can't sing. I also thought he was a bit too young for the part.

Wow! You're right! It was King Leonidas! I had no idea...I forgive him now b/c I also thought his singing sucked.

Playmobil · 06-28-2008, 06:49 AM

Hi I watched the movie and the documentary, seems all the actor/actress have to sing for themselves, including Gerard Butler. Maybe I'm wrong?

BStecke · 06-28-2008, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playmobil

Hi I watched the movie and the documentary, seems all the actor/actress have to sing for themselves, including Gerard Butler. Maybe I'm wrong?

Everybody sang their own part except Minnie Driver.

Too bad they didn't do the dub job on Butler. Would've made for a much better movie.

kuliddar · 06-28-2008, 02:51 PM

One of the top notch BR out there....nuff said.

Wilche · 06-28-2008, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BStecke

Everybody sang their own part except Minnie Driver.

Too bad they didn't do the dub job on Butler. Would've made for a much better movie.

Butler's singing was actually painful.

Robert Siegel · 06-28-2008, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuliddar

One of the top notch BR out there....nuff said.

are you talking about the US release with dolby digital or the Japan release with PCM and Dolby True?

raven1138 · 06-28-2008, 05:18 PM

i liked it. it wasnt the best transfer imo tho

Robert Siegel · 06-28-2008, 05:23 PM

Does anyone posting here have the Japanese version? If so, how is it? I will assume the soundtrack is quite a bit better not being compressed.

kpkelley · 07-01-2008, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mntwister

Does anyone posting here have the Japanese version? If so, how is it? I will assume the soundtrack is quite a bit better not being compressed.

Just got it the other day, haven't sat down and watched the whole thing, but a quick comparision to the WB release showed a measure of improvement. The bitrates on this fluctuates between 30 and 40 and is an avc encode.

I'm pretty sure the beginning of the movie is always going to look bad because of how heavily they processed it, director's decision.

Once I watch the full thing through I will give a better assesment of this disc in comparison to the wb one.

P.S> Japan passed a law that requires expedited shipping on all international purchases. Meaning a charge of some $20 bucks to ship. On a positive note I did get it in just two days.

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02-22-2008, 11:10 PM	#22
The Guardian Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Kitchener, ON Blu-ray collection:9 Trading Score:1	Did they not use the same or virtually the same audio track on the DVD and the Blu-ray? Visually it was great, but I only got it because it was in the 5 free deal, I would not pay for it without lossless audio. It's a MUSICAL!!!! So why are the emphasizing the visual instead of the audio? Hopefully we get a better release in the future. Until then, don't both buying it unless it's really cheap...

02-23-2008, 12:56 AM	#23
d0uble0se7en Active Member Member since:Jan 2007	You can also considering importing the film from Japan I believe. Isn't that a lossless audio track? In terms of the film, I think it's awesome. It's not the greatest translation to film because it still maintains a very STAGED feel to it and I feel like that keeps you from judging it as solely a movie, but it's definitely worth a viewing. You probably have to see it twice or so to learn to like it. I find most musicals to be an adapted taste. Unless of course you've seen the stage version and know it very well and just happen to fall in love with the movie version due to perfect casting/direction and dream every night about it coming out on blu-ray despite the fact that it's master studio releases on HD-DVD........ Have i ever mentioned on these boards how much I want Sweeney Todd on Blu-ray?

02-23-2008, 01:02 AM	#24
mtl007 Active Member Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray collection:51 Trading Score:10	Phantom was my first blu-ray. Me and my wife have seen the theatre / stage version and yet we still LOVE the movie, the songs, the cast plus all the extras on the disc.

06-27-2008, 01:52 PM	#26
Robert Siegel Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray collection:2296 Blu-ray reviews: 65 Trading Score:7	I thought I would open this thread today after discovering some info you might be interested in. The Japanese version of the Phantom of the Opera disc has an English Dolby True HD track AND an English 5.1 PCM track, so for those like me who want this soundtrack in all its glory, it is available from Amazon Japan and Yes Asia (cheaper at Amazon actually). The Yes Asia site shows Dolby True and PCM, and I language-converted the specs and they are both English tracks. http://us.yesasia.com/jp/PrdDept.asp...id-1005055736/

06-27-2008, 03:01 PM	#27
ccfixx Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Rhode Island Blu-ray collection:97 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:19	One Amazon Japan reviewer posted the following specs about the Japanese release... MPEG-4 AVC BD50 2:21:04 Movie size: 46,035,769,344 Disc size: 48,019,850,832 Average Video Bit Rate: 34.00 Mbps LPCM 5.1 4608Kbps 16-bit Dolby TrueHD 5.1 16-bit CC

06-28-2008, 03:44 AM	#28
Robert Siegel Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray collection:2296 Blu-ray reviews: 65 Trading Score:7	Well, those specs certainly would be, especially the soundtrack, the US release, PCM at 4.6 mbps, that's got to sound a heck of a lot better than Dolby Digital 640kbps.

06-28-2008, 04:30 AM	#30
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	Ooh, good catch . . . since it's my birthday today I'll be pointing this out to the wife

06-28-2008, 05:21 AM	#31
Charles3669 Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008	Stage is stage film is film. No film is ever like the stage production unless they filmed the stage production. But if your a Phantom fan go for it.

06-28-2008, 06:01 AM	#32
BluCrew Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Los Angeles, CA	[QUOTE=BStecke;419743]"The Guy" is none other than King Leonidas himself, Gerard Butler. And no, he can't sing. I also thought he was a bit too young for the part. Wow! You're right! It was King Leonidas! I had no idea...I forgive him now b/c I also thought his singing sucked.

06-28-2008, 06:49 AM	#33
Playmobil New Member Member since:Jun 2008	Hi I watched the movie and the documentary, seems all the actor/actress have to sing for themselves, including Gerard Butler. Maybe I'm wrong?

06-28-2008, 02:51 PM	#35
kuliddar Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Saint-Hubert, Qc 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:253 Blu-ray reviews: 84	One of the top notch BR out there....nuff said.

06-28-2008, 05:18 PM	#38
raven1138 Active Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Carlsbad, CA Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:494 Blu-ray reviews:2	i liked it. it wasnt the best transfer imo tho

06-28-2008, 05:23 PM	#39
Robert Siegel Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray collection:2296 Blu-ray reviews: 65 Trading Score:7	Does anyone posting here have the Japanese version? If so, how is it? I will assume the soundtrack is quite a bit better not being compressed.

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