AMADEUS - digital copy WMV only!!!

[JAC6]

Circling back to the topic, it is absurd that some digital copies don't work on iTunes. I used the feedback feature as well. Other movies from other studios are iPod friendly. If studios are going to do this, they should do it right. Excluding all iPods is excluding most of the market. Like others, I watch TV shows and sometimes movies on my iPod when I travel and these WB discs preclude that.

Terrible decision, WB.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by JAC6

Circling back to the topic, it is absurd that some digital copies don't work on iTunes. I used the feedback feature as well. Other movies from other studios are iPod friendly. If studios are going to do this, they should do it right. Excluding all iPods is excluding most of the market. Like others, I watch TV shows and sometimes movies on my iPod when I travel and these WB discs preclude that.
Terrible decision, WB.

But, as noted at the beginning of the thread, WB is not friendly toward iTunes.

And we have to suffer for their corporate tantrums.

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Agreed. I can understand listening to music on an iPod; if you're a teenager on vacation with the parents, working out at the gym, or on a run; but to watch a movie on that tiny screen? Why don't you get your nose out from the TV from time to time and see what's going on around you?

x's 3...DC's are worthless. I mean if you can use them, great but I have no use for them whatsoever. I've got an ipod nano...I mean it's pointless. You can't upload anything to a Blackberry storm. I'd rather watch Amadeus with great sound and pq in my living room!

[Mark Malmstrøm]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Agreed. I can understand listening to music on an iPod; if you're a teenager on vacation with the parents, working out at the gym, or on a run; but to watch a movie on that tiny screen? Why don't you get your nose out from the TV from time to time and see what's going on around you?

I will NEVER buy a movie with a Digital Copy included - nor will i buy a movie with a DVD copy included - nor with Special features on a DVD (only with Blade Runner have i made an exception).

[Wernski]

If they want to make it easy for us to have digital copies, instead of all this "second disc" nonsense, they should just remove copy protection from the regular disc.

[krylonman]

Originally Posted by Xorp

Only the most moronic consumers think watching movies on a 2 inch screen is an acceptable way to watch movies. You're pretty much slapping the director and cinematographer in the face by watching their art on a screen the size of a credit card.

I agree, but that's no argument against Digital Copy. I use it to watch movies on TVs of friends and relatives, using my iPod/iPhone and an output cable. It's indistiguishable from DVD and a lot easier to carry around. If I'm on a long trip or whatever...I'd rather read a book than stare at my phone.


Same story with 'A History of Violence,' at least according to the packaging. I wish Warner would stop dicking us around, choose one type of DC and settle on it. I got 'History' just assuming that once they made their copies Mac compatible, so would it be forever and ever amen.

[OrlandoEastwood]

David Lynch says it best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWkWGXXIHw8

[sonnyworld85]

Originally Posted by OrlandoEastwood

David Lynch says it best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWkWGXXIHw8

Man..what he says is 100% true!

[MillerTimeNCSU]

Originally Posted by Xorp

Only the most moronic consumers think watching movies on a 2 inch screen is an acceptable way to watch movies. You're pretty much slapping the director and cinematographer in the face by watching their art on a screen the size of a credit card.

I love the convenience of having movies on my iphone when I travel, does that make me moronic?

If you can't understand the logic behind providing a digital copy to ward off piracy - which is the MPAA's biggest threat to revenue - I'd argue YOU are the moron.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02...lus_amendment/

President Obama's Stimulus Bill awaiting approval contains between $6bn and $9bn for expanding American broadband into rural areas, and Senator Feinstein hopes to augment this Broadband Technology Opportunities Program so that it "allows for reasonable network management practices such as deterring unlawful activity, including child pornography and copyright infringement."

According to Public Knowledge, the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) is behind Feinstein's language. The MPAA doesn't like copyright infringement

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by EricJ

Nowadays, nobody's pushing WMV/PlaysForSure anymore except Sony, so Warner has to cover its rear and say, "Uh, sure, they play on Macs and ITunes!"
(Neglecting to mention that they meant the Windows iTunes, or that a WMV could play on a Mac, provided you had the Windows-executable software to actually unlock the movie file in the first place.)

Just shows what happens to companies when they don't listen to Steve Jobs...Suc-kerrrrs!

Oh please.

Every company EXCEPT Apple supports the WMV format.

Don't like it? People call MS a monoploly yet that is EXACTLY what Apple wants and is doing with iTunes.

BTW: iPods are but a firmware release away from supporting WMV, but the monopolists in Cupertino say no.

[cathexist]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Oh please.

Every company EXCEPT Apple supports the WMV format.

Don't like it? People call MS a monoploly yet that is EXACTLY what Apple wants and is doing with iTunes.

BTW: iPods are but a firmware release away from supporting WMV, but the monopolists in Cupertino say no.

But apple is getting rid of the protections on their itunes files...so that will open it up.

Anyway...I am very sad that the digital copy does not work with my iphone...

[Jeff Kleist]

But apple is getting rid of the protections on their itunes files...so that will open it up.

They're getting rid of it on SOME music files

The studios would not allow their movies out unprotected

The real soution is for Apple to open up Fairplay (and play fair) to anyone who wants to pay the licensing fee. Every phone and MP3 manufacturer on the planet would jump on it.

If they don't start working with everyone else instead of going "We're #1, you have to support us so nyeah", they're going to get left in the dust by the universal DRM system that's a few years away. What good is a platform if no one renews their content contracts, and you don't have any of your own? MS knows this, and made several attempts to buy studios, but they failed because no one wants MS in that kind of position of power. That's why they're slowing backing out of the media box/provider industry alltogether, and concentrating serving stuff up on Live and collecting on that, and helping with the backend on universal DRM.

If you make enough complaints, I'm sure WB will provide a Speed Racer style code exchange

[ibeetle]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

They're getting rid of it on SOME music files

The studios would not allow their movies out unprotected

The real soution is for Apple to open up Fairplay (and play fair) to anyone who wants to pay the licensing fee. Every phone and MP3 manufacturer on the planet would jump on it.

If they don't start working with everyone else instead of going "We're #1, you have to support us so nyeah", they're going to get left in the dust by the universal DRM system that's a few years away. What good is a platform if no one renews their content contracts, and you don't have any of your own? MS knows this, and made several attempts to buy studios, but they failed because no one wants MS in that kind of position of power. That's why they're slowing backing out of the media box/provider industry alltogether, and concentrating serving stuff up on Live and collecting on that, and helping with the backend on universal DRM.

If you make enough complaints, I'm sure WB will provide a Speed Racer style code exchange

Actually it is not some of their music but all of the music. As of now it is about 60% of the catalog by the end of 2nd quarter 09 it should be 100%. So any music you purchase will be free to play on any device that supports AAC file playback.

So with Apple, Amazon, and eMusic offering DRM free music that just leaves... oh yea... Microsoft selling music that will only play on their players because of DRM.

oh and by the way... there is no universal DRM the "industry" is working on. In fact they are moving away from DRM.

[ibeetle]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Oh please.

Every company EXCEPT Apple supports the WMV format.

Don't like it? People call MS a monoploly yet that is EXACTLY what Apple wants and is doing with iTunes.

BTW: iPods are but a firmware release away from supporting WMV, but the monopolists in Cupertino say no.

First, not every company excpt Apple lacks support for WMV.
Second, the W in WMV stands for Windows... as in Microsoft Windows. Microsoft has refused Apple the license. Not the other way around.
Third, the iPod can play non DRM WMV's with free work-a-rounds.
Fourth, it is Microsoft that has been sued by both the U.S. and Britain and the E.U. for being a monopoly not Apple.

Apple spent two years negotiating the ability to play DRM files with WMV format and Microsoft said no. This was of course when Microsoft was under the impression that their Zune media player was going to mop the floor with the iPod. Now that Apple is the number one retailer for online media they really do not need DRM encrypted WMV format playback on their media players (i.e. the iPod and iPhone)

And don't get too attached to your WMV files. Microsoft is dropping WMV with Windows 7 and is going with Silverlight.

[SVTRacer]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Oh please.

Every company EXCEPT Apple supports the WMV format.

Don't like it? People call MS a monoploly yet that is EXACTLY what Apple wants and is doing with iTunes.

BTW: iPods are but a firmware release away from supporting WMV, but the monopolists in Cupertino say no.

I agree completely. And what pisses me off more is that most companies are making products exclusively for the ipod. Open any electronics catalog and there's 10 pages of ipod docks, etc.

[Jeff Kleist]

oh and by the way... there is no universal DRM the "industry" is working on. In fact they are moving away from DRM.

http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...technologyNews

Movie studios will never allow their stuff out DRM free. The only reason why the music industry is relenting (and not all of them, Asian labels, particuarly AVEX are so hardcore on DRM that they won't let foreign labels press CDs without it) is because Apple refuses to license out their DRM system. You can bet that once this is in place they'll start locking up the new releases again.

Digital copy is SCAM. Include a 5 cent DVD and raise the MSRP 5 bucks.

Disney was testing to see if it's something people will pay extra for, simple as that. That's why there's the DC version and the non-DC version.

None of the discs where all copies include DC (the vast majority) is the price raised whatsoever. The cost to the studio is something like a dollar a copy since they're compressing the movie for other services already anyway.