The Weinstein Company Loses 'Sin City 2'

[fighthefutureofhd]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

The Reader has grossed $33 million to date and had a budget of $32 million, so I wouldn't consider it a huge success. Movie won awards, but a struggling company needs a hit movie, not a critical success.

the original poster though asked which movie they have released that has been successful? they didn't say what kind of success. i think having your lead actress win best actress at the oscars is pretty damn successful, which is what the weinsteins love.

[tommyboy81]

Originally Posted by mikejet

Why all the hate for them? What other studio would have even released Grindhouse and invested that kind of money?

Plus without them we wouldn't be getting Inglorious Basterds this year.

This might have something to do with it. I remember reading about this.

Criticism of Weinstein
While lauded for opening up the independent film market and making it financially viable, Weinstein has been criticized by some for the techniques he has allegedly applied in his business dealings. Peter Biskind's book Down and Dirty Pictures: Miramax, Sundance and the Rise of Independent Film[1] details criticism of Miramax's release history on some Asian films that were apparently not of interest to other US distributors. Miramax purchased some Asian films including Shaolin Soccer and Hero that had been critical successes in Asia but had not been acquired for US distribution by any distributor until Miramax acquired them for US release. However the films did not receive immediate US release - upsetting some people. Shaolin Soccer specifically was redubbed into English (a very common occurrence for non-English films in the US) and the soundtrack was altered. On hearing that Miramax co-chairman Harvey Weinstein would try to cut animator Hayao Miyazaki's Princess Mononoke to make it more marketable for the mutual benefit of the studio and the film's makers, one of Studio Ghibli's producers sent an authentic katana with a simple message: "No cuts".[2]

Another example cited by Biskind was The Quiet American, directed by Phillip Noyce. The film tested relatively well on September 10, 2001. After the September 11, 2001 attacks in a period where all US studios were examining their upcoming releases to ensure that they took account of the change in public climate, Weinstein allegedly held the film until testing it again on October. This time, the scores were much lower, possibly due to the critical tone of the film towards America's past foreign policy. Noyce delivered the finished film in May 2002, but was allegedly unable to get a response from Weinstein. He elected to not screen the film at the Toronto International Film Festival until he was lobbied by star Michael Caine, who threatened to boycott publicity for another film he had made for Miramax. The movie was released in November but failed to find an audience. It was alleged that Miramax did not make a major effort to promote the film for Academy Award consideration, though Caine was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Actor.[1]

In a 2004 piece in New York magazine, Weinstein appeared somewhat repentant for his often aggressive discussions with directors and producers.[3] However, an October 13, 2008 Newsweek story criticized Weinstein, who was accused of "hassling Sydney Pollack on his deathbed" about the release of the film The Reader. After Weinstein offered $1 million to charity if the accusation could be proven, journalist Nikki Finke published an August 22 email by Scott Rudin asserting that Weinstein "harassed" Anthony Minghella's widow and a bedridden Pollack until Pollack's family asked him to stop.[4][5]

In April 2008, Weinstein, who supported Hillary Clinton's campaign for President, allegedly threatened to withhold some of his extensive personal contributions to congressional Democrats unless House Speaker Nancy Pelosi embraced his plan to finance re-votes in Florida and Michigan. Three officials familiar with the conversation say that Weinstein appeared determined to buy Clinton more time in her battle against Sen. Barack Obama by pushing for the re-vote. He tried to convince Pelosi to back off her previous comments that superdelegates should support the candidate who's leading in pledged delegates in early June.[6]

In February 2009, former Sam & Dave singer Sam Moore filed suit against Harvey and Bob Weinstein over the alleged use of Sam & Dave's career as a model for Soul Men, a Weinstein Co. comedy starring Bernie Mac and Samuel L. Jackson.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Weinstein

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by tommyboy81

This might have something to do with it. I remember reading about this.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Weinstein

Those Weinsteins sure are greedy and useless SOBs

[tommyboy81]

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

Those Weinsteins sure are greedy and useless SOBs

Its cool how they started there career and everything but I'm guessing success has gotten to them.

[broganreynik]

Originally Posted by scrumptious

Do you think there will ever be a blu-ray release that renders sin city or the sequel in full color?

I literally uttered the following words after reading this. "What the flippin' hell?!?"

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by tommyboy81

Its cool how they started there career and everything but I'm guessing success has gotten to them.

Yeah I used to love the stuff they put out, but the last 5 years they have really ruined a lot of great movies success due to their rush to get some out of the gate and just mismanaging other movies they don't like.

[OrlandoEastwood]

You guys do know that Les Grossman from Tropic Thunder is supposedly modeled after Harvey Weinstein.

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by OrlandoEastwood

You guys do know that Les Grossman from Tropic Thunder is supposedly modeled after Harvey Weinstein.

Is he the one played by Tom Cruise? My buddy showed me Tom rapping and fat and bald.........i was very unimpressed and that was enough Tropic Thunder for me.

[OrlandoEastwood]

Yes, Tom Cruise.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

Is he the one played by Tom Cruise? My buddy showed me Tom rapping and fat and bald.........i was very unimpressed and that was enough Tropic Thunder for me.

LOL I had no idea that was him until I read about it in this topic, that means I have 8 movies with Tom Cruise in them.

[fatediesel]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

the original poster though asked which movie they have released that has been successful? they didn't say what kind of success. i think having your lead actress win best actress at the oscars is pretty damn successful, which is what the weinsteins love.

I agree, but with a company that is struggling greatly a box office success is more important than critical. However, the Weinsteins do love their Oscar winners, and are the kings of the smear campaign, though there's no evidence they did any of their smearing this year.

[Audiophile_At_Birth]

Drag..will I ever see Sin City 2 in my life time?

[fatediesel]

Originally Posted by OrlandoEastwood

You guys do know that Les Grossman from Tropic Thunder is supposedly modeled after Harvey Weinstein.

Also the character Harvey Weingard on Entourage is obviously based on Weinstein. He's the one who Vince was going to do the Australian surfer movie with but backed out and Weingard was furious and threatening Drama and Eric.

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

LOL I had no idea that was him until I read about it in this topic, that means I have 8 movies with Tom Cruise in them.

Shhhh, you might not want to tell people that, they might think your a Scientologist..........

I thought everybody knew Cruise was in that fat suit? You could tell it was the Alien loving nutjob as soon as he talked, least I could. I miss 80's Cruise before he went ****in crazy, the days of Taps and Risky Business not those movies that make it an Impossible Mission to enjoy.

[tommyboy81]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

Also the character Harvey Weingard on Entourage is obviously based on Weinstein. He's the one who Vince was going to do the Australian surfer movie with but backed out and Weingard was furious and threatening Drama and Eric.

He's the one that bought the Pablo Escobar movie for a dollar

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by fatediesel

Also the character Harvey Weingard on Entourage is obviously based on Weinstein. He's the one who Vince was going to do the Australian surfer movie with but backed out and Weingard was furious and threatening Drama and Eric.

Is he the really heavy dude that screamed so hard at Vince in Aspen i think that he looked like he was gonna stroke out?

[aygie]

apparently this is BS and the Weinstein's still have the rights.

[OrlandoEastwood]

Yeah, I saw that there was an update to it. Too bad.

[fatediesel]

The Hollywood Reporter is reporting that Frank Miller's estate is trying to sell the rights to the sequel, although Weinstein still claims to own the rights.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...f482dad9bd22ca

[OrlandoEastwood]

Originally Posted by Hollywood Reporter

The Weinstein Co./Dimension continue to maintain that they hold the rights to any sequel for the Robert Rodriguez film, which grossed $159 million worldwide when it came out in 2005.

This is the part where you Harvey should have done Sin City 2 over those straight to video sequel s***-fests of Feast: Sloppy Seconds, Feast: Happy Finish, Pulse: Afterlife, and Pulse 3.