Official Terminator Thread

[SquidPuppet]

Its at 100% at Rotten Tomatoes.

Only one review...but he liked it.

[MCT]

agreed, but keep in mind original works CAN be improved upon by others. Just because T1 came first doesnt mean subsequent films "owe" it anything, especially if they turn out to be superior.

that also doesnt mean someone should shit all over the source material and disrespect it totally just because "its their vision". Its a very fine line these directors have to toe.

[thedownfall]

Originally Posted by DVDave

A bigger budget and better effects does not mean it's a better film. Cameron made T1 on a shoestring budget of $6 million dollars forcing him to use every trick of cinema to be creative and the result spawned a cultural icon and a legacy that has endurned for over 25 years. Salvation owes its very existence to Cameron's film.

I definitely agree with you but I think it is better maybe not by much but I liked it

[Blu-ray Fanatic]

It's all about the eye-candy special effects and action

[statikcat]

From all the reviews I have read (about 5 around online) everyone seems to say it is a pretty solid movie but does falter in some areas. Overall a good steady entrance to "restart" the franchise. I can't wait to see it.

[thedownfall]

Originally Posted by DVDave

What bugs me about Salvation is that the Future War looks nothing like Cameron's version. His was shot at night as Kyle had said "You stay down by day, but at night you can move around" and his Future War was nightmarish. Salvation is shot entirely in the day in the California Mojave desert.

spoiler


They actually mention something about I guess it’s the opposite though. Marcus wanted to go to skynet hq but reese tells him to wait till morning they hunt better at night or something like that. There are some night scenes. FYI it was filmed in New Mexico

[SPH]

Originally Posted by DVDave

What bugs me about Salvation is that the Future War looks nothing like Cameron's version. His was shot at night as Kyle had said "You stay down by day, but at night you can move around" and his Future War was nightmarish. Salvation is shot entirely in the day in the California Mojave desert.

They have to learn how to operate, they dont just have it in em..


Besides if you were fighting high tech machines humans would be the ones not being able to see in the dark. There is technology now that can pin point a knats azz at 1000 meters on a foggy night, and rain down some serious hate and discontent.

[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by repete66211

Cool! I hope you enjoyed it. Although I'm not pumped about it coming out, I'll definitely see it after the crowds have died down.

P.S. How big of a douche do you have to be to refer to yourself as "McG"?

Hey, if your real name was Joseph McGinty Nichol, you would call yourself McG too .

[wafi]

Originally Posted by SPH

They have to learn how to operate, they dont just have it in em..


Besides if you were fighting high tech machines humans would be the ones not being able to see in the dark. There is technology now that can pin point a knats azz at 1000 meters on a foggy night, and rain down some serious hate and discontent.

Exactly what I was thinking...theyre AI it wouldnt matter to them if it was night or day when it came to hunting.

[SPH]

My point is it would be a disadvantage to the humans more than the machines. The machines (assuming we are not back dating the technology to 1984) would be much better equipped for low visibility combat.


If I remember right it was noise and other distractions that allowed the humans to disappear, the blended into the noise.


The key thing to remember it is a movie...

[masoud90]

I'm seeing it tonight so I will tell you guys what I thought as soon as I get out of the premiere.

[wafi]

Originally Posted by DVDave

I'm not talking about the machines. I'm talking about the humans. The darkness, however slight an advantage, is the only natural cover the humans have. So what if the machines have infra-red targeting sensors, their very survival depends on every advantage known to them. Fighting in broad daylight would make them easy targets but at night, fighting with guerilla warfare the machines have to seek their targets out. If they're going to go out, their going to make them work for every inch of ground in this war.

I know your'e talking about humans but since this is all hypothetical seems to me if the Ts have "Predator" like vision, humans wouldn't have any advantage over it scurrying around like rats in the darkness

[statikcat]

Originally Posted by DVDave

I'm not talking about the machines. I'm talking about the humans. The darkness, however slight an advantage, is the only natural cover the humans have. So what if the machines have infra-red targeting sensors, their very survival depends on every advantage known to them. Fighting in broad daylight would make them easy targets but at night, fighting with guerilla warfare the machines have to seek their targets out. If they're going to go out, their going to make them work for every inch of ground in this war.

I think the opposite would be true. An advanced robot could detect a human during the night time as easily as the daytime. If anything, I would imagine the night only hurts humans.

[Mannyfresh84]

Wow... it's dropped to 20% on rottentomatoes.com, you guys should check out what the negative reviews are saying. I'm still going to see it.

[wafi]

Originally Posted by Mannyfresh84

Wow... it's dropped to 20% on rottentomatoes.com, you guys should check out what the negative reviews are saying. I'm still going to see it.

Honestly...how many people base their decisions on what to watch based on what the critics say? I for one am going as well!

[Teabaggins]

Originally Posted by wafi

Honestly...how many people base their decisions on what to watch based on what the critics say? I for one am going as well!

I prefer to base my decisions on the opinions of people who, when a new movie comes out, are mainly worried about what the PQ/AQ will be like on the blu-ray.

[MAPdead]

dang man sounds like it was a good time

[Mannyfresh84]

Originally Posted by wafi

Honestly...how many people base their decisions on what to watch based on what the critics say? I for one am going as well!

I think the older crowds over the age of 30 might be a little bit more influenced than other's. I mean, I honestly think Star Trek's massive positive reviews and great word of mouth has helped it's box office numbers for it's second weekend. I think in the end, it doesn't really matter with a summer blockbuster like this(for me anyways), but also it doesn't mean it can't help it either.

[MCT]

Originally Posted by Mannyfresh84

Wow... it's dropped to 20% on rottentomatoes.com, you guys should check out what the negative reviews are saying. I'm still going to see it.

that was one of the quickest, most brutal drops I've seen so far

[bootsy]

Originally Posted by MCT

Sam Jackson is an infinitely better actor than Common. I love hip hop, but rappers dont belong in movies. As least Ice Cube has the decency to make kiddie movies nowadays, and Ice T has resigned himself to TV.

American Gangster was boring to me. Wanted....meh.

but thats another thread.

Are we really gonna start this nonsense. Rappers don't belong in movies. GMAFB. If they have the talent to act and can deliver then they belong in the movie. I think Will Smith and Queen Latifah have made a pretty good career out of it.