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Eny- · 06-30-2016, 02:47 PM

Since Shout already adopted UHD why not release a second SKU with a UHD combo?

Geoff D · 06-30-2016, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockercub

When asked about [The Thing] on Facebook, their acquisitions manager Cliff MacMillan replied, "Universal did the scan. If we had access to the element we would have done it in 4K, but we have no UHD 4K rights."

Ah, just like when the UK label who shall not be named did their edition of the Burbs, Universal did an oversampled 2K scan off an IP then handed off the raw data for said label to carry out the actual restoration on.

javi92 · 06-30-2016, 04:42 PM

Hopefully there won't be the clumpy yellow grain typical of other Shout! releases.

dvdmike · 06-30-2016, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kristoffer

Damn. I hope Region B also gets the remaster at some point.

It's mgm so arrow is likely

JackForrester · 06-30-2016, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cakefactory

Go for Obsession. Sisters is a fantastic release, but all second pressing copies are B locked (as the first one was supposed to be). You might luck out and get one of the first pressing if you ordered from some reseller, but from Arrow direct there's no way it wouldn't be B locked.

I am sure Criterion will release Sisters sooner or later. They have it on Hulu (or at least, they used to).

Regarding the other Arrow De Palma releases, I don't think you're missing out on much by going with the Region A, besides "The Fury" which looks FAR, FAR better than the Twilight Time did and has great extras to boot. Phantom of the Paradise has better compression than Shout's, Dressed to Kill has the best compression of any disc using the older master with the non-blue color timing, I don't really know about Blow Out but know the Criterion release is very nice, and that's all they have IIRC. I only have Obsession, The Fury, and Dressed to Kill (I got it before the Criterion came out, but I also like the look of the old transfer a lot more than the new, cooler one). I'm happy enough with the Region A versions of Phantom & Blow Out. If I was going to import Phantom, I'd probably go for a version with the less oppressive color scheme (Arrow has the same one as Shout).

You mean, I can't use the Panasonic Top Menu trick to bypass the lock on the De Palma titles from Arrow?

pinballmaster · 06-30-2016, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Eny-

Since Shout already adopted UHD why not release a second SKU with a UHD combo?

I completely agree. I've pretty much stopped purchasing Blu-Ray's entirely because I know UHD are to come. If they are doing 4K scans it only makes sense...

BrandonJF · 06-30-2016, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JackForrester

You mean, I can't use the Panasonic Top Menu trick to bypass the lock on the De Palma titles from Arrow?

I don't think that's what he's saying. There's a difference between a title being locked to Region B and your Panasonic being able to bypass the lock. The discs that will play via that top menu trick are still Region B locked. I'm sure you're already aware of that - I just think the other poster is saying that the first pressing of "Sisters" wasn't locked at all (no top menu trick would've been needed).

cakefactory · 06-30-2016, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JackForrester

You mean, I can't use the Panasonic Top Menu trick to bypass the lock on the De Palma titles from Arrow?

No, I didn't say anything about that. It gets tiresome putting that disclaimer on every single post I make about Region B Arrow discs, and I'm sure it annoys most people when I do it. :P Literally every single one of them seems to work with it apart from Rififi.

JackForrester · 06-30-2016, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BrandonJF

I don't think that's what he's saying. There's a difference between a title being locked to Region B and your Panasonic being able to bypass the lock. The discs that will play via that top menu trick are still Region B locked. I'm sure you're already aware of that - I just think the other poster is saying that the first pressing of "Sisters" wasn't locked at all (no top menu trick would've been needed).

Oh yes, I get what he said about Sisters, but he said something like "you're not missing much going with the Region A discs" and didn't mentioned that if the other user had a Panasonic he could still go with the Arrow discs doing the Top Menu trick, that's why I thought maybe the trick wouldn't work on some of these discs.
But thanks for clearing that out anyway

JackForrester · 06-30-2016, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cakefactory

No, I didn't say anything about that. It gets tiresome putting that disclaimer on every single post I make about Region B Arrow discs, and I'm sure it annoys most people when I do it. :P Literally every single one of them seems to work with it apart from Rififi.

Sorry, had no idea it was that annoying or tiresome.
I explained my confusion above

cakefactory · 06-30-2016, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JackForrester

Sorry, had no idea it was that annoying or tiresome.
I explained my confusion above

No problem. If you have a panasonic player and would be importing the American releases anyway, I would definitely get the Arrow versions of The Fury, Sisters, Obsession, Phantom of the Paradise, and maybe even Blow-Out (I'm not really sure if that's better than the Criterion or not). Especially since the Arrow sale going on right now means that Phantom and Blow-Out would be cheaper than the Scream/Criterion versions.

JackForrester · 06-30-2016, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cakefactory

No problem. If you have a panasonic player and would be importing the American releases anyway, I would definitely get the Arrow versions of The Fury, Sisters, Obsession, Phantom of the Paradise, and maybe even Blow-Out (I'm not really sure if that's better than the Criterion or not). Especially since the Arrow sale going on right now means that Phantom and Blow-Out would be cheaper than the Scream/Criterion versions.

Thanks. I'm also interested in the Arrow edition of Dressed to Kill. I can't get used to the new Criterion transfer. Not for me.

dvdmike · 06-30-2016, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Eny-

Since Shout already adopted UHD why not release a second SKU with a UHD combo?

Clauses, I don't see any boutique releasing a UHD release before the studio gets a release out

Geoff D · 06-30-2016, 06:48 PM

Ah, good point, I'd forgotten about that. But still, if MGM are that desperate for others to do their remastering for them, then someone doing their own UHD release isn't beyond the realms IF they can negotiate their way to it (particularly seeing as MGM have been VERY quiet on the UHD front).

tskwerl · 06-30-2016, 06:48 PM

Unfortunately, I don't see many studios releasing their back catalogs on UHD. Mostly what we're seeing is high profile money makers (which only makes dollars and sense). So, I'm still on the fence about UHD. There's also the huge x-factor of everyone going digital.

Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I am.

warrian · 06-30-2016, 06:51 PM

Damn. I'm so frustrated that I paid 4.99 for this 5 years ago when I think of how proud I would be today for not having done so.

I should have waited! Aaaaaaaahhhhhhh!

cakefactory · 06-30-2016, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JackForrester

Thanks. I'm also interested in the Arrow edition of Dressed to Kill. I can't get used to the new Criterion transfer. Not for me.

Yeah, if you like the look of the older master definitely go for the Arrow. It has several extras that aren't on the Criterion, too. I don't have any interest in side-grading to the Criterion.

recS-12 · 06-30-2016, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by warrian

Damn. I'm so frustrated that I paid 4.99 for this 5 years ago when I think of how proud I would be today for not having done so.

I should have waited! Aaaaaaaahhhhhhh!

It happens. If you're a fan of a movie you support it by purchasing it. Especially if it's an upgrade over the last format release. The good news is you only spent $4.99. If you have a second hand store locally, you should be able to get like$2-3 in trade credit for it. Also half a decade ago is a long time $4.99 was a great purchase price back then.

warrian · 06-30-2016, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by recS-12

It happens. If you're a fan of a movie you support it by purchasing it. Especially if it's an upgrade over the last format release. The good news is you only spent $4.99. If you have a second hand store locally, you should be able to get like$2-3 in trade credit for it. Also half a decade ago is a long time $4.99 was a great purchase price back then.

recS-12, you are a better person than me. Genuinely empathizing when I was just being a dork. That's truly what makes coming to Blu-ray.com so awesome. It's members like you. I'm really being serious when I say that. I'm cool with the fiver I dropped back 2011 and will happily pay 22 or whatever to upgrade. Thanks for your positive and generous attitude nonetheless.

Now back to my regular program:

[sarcasm]Grrrrrrrrr. Just think! In the intervening years, I could have bought as much as 1.6 fish tacos! Why me?! Whhhyyyyyyyyyy?!!!!!![/sarcasm]

cakefactory · 06-30-2016, 08:25 PM

Ugh, fish tacos. The one time I ever had them, I had a bunch up in disgusting ol' Hurleywood in Wisconsin/Michigan and obviously got drunk off my rocker and spewed them everywhere. Never again!!!

/great story

Here's a recent article on Carrie I thought might be worth sharing:

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/06/...s-horror-movie

06-30-2016, 02:47 PM	#381
Eny- Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Lisbon, Portugal Home Theater Gallery:10 4K collection:73 Blu-ray collection:1377 Trading Score:14	Since Shout already adopted UHD why not release a second SKU with a UHD combo?

06-30-2016, 04:42 PM	#383
javi92 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2013 4K collection:300 Blu-ray collection:4969 DVD collection:875	Hopefully there won't be the clumpy yellow grain typical of other Shout! releases.

06-30-2016, 06:48 PM	#394
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1347 Blu-ray collection:2524 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Ah, good point, I'd forgotten about that. But still, if MGM are that desperate for others to do their remastering for them, then someone doing their own UHD release isn't beyond the realms IF they can negotiate their way to it (particularly seeing as MGM have been VERY quiet on the UHD front).

06-30-2016, 06:48 PM	#395
tskwerl Active Member Member since:May 2015 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:299 DVD collection:258	Unfortunately, I don't see many studios releasing their back catalogs on UHD. Mostly what we're seeing is high profile money makers (which only makes dollars and sense). So, I'm still on the fence about UHD. There's also the huge x-factor of everyone going digital. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I am.

06-30-2016, 06:51 PM	#396
warrian Power Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2013 Location:American Midwest Blu-ray collection:2630 DVD collection:311 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:2	Damn. I'm so frustrated that I paid 4.99 for this 5 years ago when I think of how proud I would be today for not having done so. I should have waited! Aaaaaaaahhhhhhh!

06-30-2016, 08:25 PM	#400
cakefactory Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Oct 2012 Location:WI, USA 4K collection:436 Blu-ray collection:3878 DVD collection:808 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:23	Ugh, fish tacos. The one time I ever had them, I had a bunch up in disgusting ol' Hurleywood in Wisconsin/Michigan and obviously got drunk off my rocker and spewed them everywhere. Never again!!! /great story Here's a recent article on Carrie I thought might be worth sharing: http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/06/...s-horror-movie

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