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Old 06-16-2021, 05:49 AM   #381
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You ever watch Turner Classic Movies? It runs non-stop at my in-laws' home (that and religious programming, and Blue Bloods). Some of TCM's programming is hard to endure -- factory-line-assembly Golden Age Films, forgotten for a reason. For every Miracle at Morgan's Creek or It Happened One Night, it feels like there's fifty you've never heard of and won't remember next week. I disagree with your opinion that the "average" film from the Golden Age of Hollywood makes current films seem horrible, when we ourselves are living in a massive media glut of film product. Every decade has great films and completely forgettable junk. The 30's and 40's were no different. We just remember the good stuff worth remembering.

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Old 06-16-2021, 05:57 AM   #382
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Well I could understand perfectly well if you went out of your way to post twice in a row over a disagreement about the thread topic.

But you're going out of your way to elaborate on a brief aside that I made in passing while discussing Loki.

I don't understand why you do those things.

Since you've already disrupted the flow of the thread with a lecture on classic cinema, I'll just say this: I know the Golden Age of Hollywood like the palm of my hand, I know the A-movies, the studio B-movies, the stuff Poverty Row was cranking out, the Saturday morning serials, etc etc etc. This includes a lot of stuff that is never even going to show up on TCM. And I stand by what I said.
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Old 06-16-2021, 09:28 AM   #383
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Just watch the first episode of Loki series and it was amazing.
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Old 06-16-2021, 09:33 AM   #384
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2nd episode is better than the first. The wait until next Wednesday is gonna hurt. It's hurting now.
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Old 06-16-2021, 09:55 AM   #385
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Definitely preferred the first episode, this one seemed a bit slow until the end, but I'll watch it a couple more times to see if it grows on me. There was a lot of talking in both of them but I really got into it in the first ep vs the second one not seeming as interesting to me.

It's funny because I'm seeing so many comments about people going crazy over the Hiddleston/Wilson chemistry and I'm like... they're fine? I haven't quite bought into it myself yet let alone being blown away by it, but to each their own.

Confused about the exact implications of what happened at the end and how it's going to work but it was a good cliffhanger and I'm excited to see what happens next.
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Old 06-16-2021, 11:42 AM   #386
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Definitely preferred the first episode, this one seemed a bit slow until the end, but I'll watch it a couple more times to see if it grows on me. There was a lot of talking in both of them but I really got into it in the first ep vs the second one not seeming as interesting to me.
It's funny because I'm seeing so many comments about people going crazy over the Hiddleston/Wilson chemistry and I'm like... they're fine? I haven't quite bought into it myself yet let alone being blown away by it, but to each their own.
I think the dialogue is nice simply because there is more of it. There's not enough time in a movie for two characters to just sit and debate about their true motivations in depth. I think it's great character building. Not all actors would be as good in a scene where they're just chatting, but these two held my attention. I think it's interesting watching Mobius deconstruct Loki with simple questions.


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Confused about the exact implications of what happened at the end and how it's going to work but it was a good cliffhanger and I'm excited to see what happens next.
I'm thinking the
[Show spoiler]female Loki variant has been stealing lots of those time door devices and charges to send back to multiple points all throughout the main timeline to create more variant timelines than they can deal with all at once.

I'm hoping in the next episode we get to see lots of time hopping and strange places as they try to compensate.
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Old 06-16-2021, 12:11 PM   #387
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It was decent, I hope this is the last of the paperwork and homework and it’s time to really play with some idiosyncrasy potential the shows been teasing. I am a tad worried the show won’t be able realise tithe full potential of the cliffhanger, and I hope they do something with
[Show spoiler]Lady Loki
that can at least match Tom Hiddleston’s performance, from what we got it felt a little po-faced serious and that’d be disappointing if that was the entire character.
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Old 06-16-2021, 12:45 PM   #388
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I don't have the comic book knowledge some here have, and the TVA is definitely goes beyond what I'm familiar with, so feel free to steer me back on course if I'm going off, but is the
[Show spoiler]TVA essentially evil here?


While watching the first episode, even before Loki said it, I was thinking the concept of the
[Show spoiler]TVA micromanaging the timeline and surreptitiously taking it upon themselves to decide what can and can't happen is essentially the loss of free will. And maybe I'm reading too much into it, but why did they choose the song "Holding Out for a a Hero" during the cloaked female Loki's action scene? Are we eventually going to realize the timekeepers we keep hearing about are the real villains and the TVA, despite what they believe to be good deeds, are their unwitting pawns, thus making the female Loki an actual "hero," and even more the opposite of the Loki we're familiar with than simply gender?
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Old 06-16-2021, 03:10 PM   #389
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Good episode, definitely a bit slower compared to the first but it expands the plot. Loved all the time travel stuff!
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Old 06-16-2021, 03:19 PM   #390
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The second episode was a bit boring because it felt like 90% of the Episode they were just talking. But the end of the Episode was interesting
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Old 06-16-2021, 04:01 PM   #391
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Definitely a slower episode, but I did really like the atmosphere in the final scene. Crazy to think that next week is the mid-point for the season. I really hope that, from here on out, it picks up with the wacky time adventures. They showed this episode that no time period is off-limits, so let's get crazy!
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Old 06-16-2021, 04:20 PM   #392
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I actually liked this episode over the exposition dump of the premier. Though I found the pacing to be inconsistent. Opening was slow, then it picked up, only to slow down again, before having a momentous climax which left me anticipating next weeks.
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Old 06-16-2021, 05:49 PM   #394
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This is definitely shaping up to be a fun ride much like WandaVision. In my opinion the exposition scenes are kept entertaining by Hiddleston and Wilson's solid chemistry.
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Old 06-16-2021, 07:01 PM   #395
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Didn't feel slow to me...I was absorbed from start to finish, episode flew by.
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Old 06-16-2021, 10:22 PM   #396
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Well, this second episode was a big improvement over the pilot episode. Marvel Studios keeps p***ing me off with all of this crap about having to needlessly explain everything in the content they are producing. It reminds me how Marvel Comics used to be back in the 1980's with their anal approach to origin stories in every first issue, or everytime they reboot or remake a comic series. The first episode did that. I'm also hating the infantile TVA animation sequences.

But, I did enjoy the second episode, overall. I just wish they would have used Kang as the villain instead of the Variant Loki thing. The one thing I didn't like was how they explained how everything is predetermined or predestined. It's an archaic concept. I believe that nothing is predetermined except our deaths, eventually, it catches us all.

Just as I warned about CW's The Flash, and I correctly stated way back when the pilot episode debuted many years ago that The CW relying too heavily on time travel as a plot device would make the series too dependent on that story element. Not a single season as been made where time travel wasn't used. The production team uses it as a McGuffin when they are too lazy to explain something.

But, I did like how the episode ended, revealing the Loki Variant that everyone is chasing. Wasn't expecting that reveal this early. Half expected that to be revealed by either the fourth or fifth episode.
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Well, this second episode was a big improvement over the pilot episode. Marvel Studios keeps p***ing me off with all of this crap about having to needlessly explain everything in the content they are producing. It reminds me how Marvel Comics used to be back in the 1980's with their anal approach to origin stories in every first issue, or everytime they reboot or remake a comic series. The first episode did that. I'm also hating the infantile TVA animation sequences.

But, I did enjoy the second episode, overall. I just wish they would have used Kang as the villain instead of the Variant Loki thing. The one thing I didn't like was how they explained how everything is predetermined or predestined. It's an archaic concept. I believe that nothing is predetermined except our deaths, eventually, it catches us all.

Just as I warned about CW's The Flash, and I correctly stated way back when the pilot episode debuted many years ago that The CW relying too heavily on time travel as a plot device would make the series too dependent on that story element. Not a single season as been made where time travel wasn't used. The production team uses it as a McGuffin when they are too lazy to explain something.

But, I did like how the episode ended, revealing the Loki Variant that everyone is chasing. Wasn't expecting that reveal this early. Half expected that to be revealed by either the fourth or fifth episode.
The whole time I watched this episode, I kept thinking "This has to be a result of covid....a shaky, lazy time travel premise, long drawn out conversations to fill screen time, a noticeably cheap look to the production"

Thank goodness they introduced the variant early...one more episode mostly consisting of Hiddleston and Wilson desperately trying to be witty with each other would be way too much of a mediocre thing.

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Old 06-16-2021, 11:10 PM   #398
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Second episode is keeping me engrossed. Tom Hiddleston is just chewing the scenery and having a grand old time.
[Show spoiler] I'm predicting the TVA will eventually be revealed to be the real antagonists.


[Show spoiler]Never thought I'd ever get to see Lady Loki and/or Enchantress (apparently this MIGHT be Sylvie rather than Amora) in live action but here we are.
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Old 06-16-2021, 11:36 PM   #400
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The show is definitely interesting to me. It has a bit of a heady feel to it. Like it is about to get really confusing. (And I hope it does. Otherwise, it will feel like a missed opportunity to me).

I hope it gets really complex and convoluted before it gets resolved. That would be best.
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