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[ccfixx]

Originally Posted by horseflesh

That's what I was thinking of doing.
Except it's a 2-disc release.

Oh, crap. I completely forgot about that. Oh, well.

CC

[horseflesh]

Originally Posted by ccfixx

Oh, crap. I completely forgot about that. Oh, well.

CC

I know.
So, what I'm thinking is; at some stage surely they'll have another 2-disc set and then they will presumably have to manufacture 2-disc plastic cases.
So I'll maybe pick up a few of the plastic cases and then hang on until 2-disc cases are available to get the rest.

BTW, I'm wondering if someone could help me out regarding the replacement cases. Jon Mulvaney quoted me $15 PER CASE
If I was to get Criterion to send cases to someone here who's in the US, could they then forward on to me in Ireland? Obviously I would cover that shipping cost. I expect it wouldn't cost much anyway for a few empty cases (so I've no idea why they want me to pay so much).

[whbinder]

Originally Posted by substance

now I am adding laserdisc releases which never made it to DVDs.

Sonatine
Switchblade Sisters
Citizen Kane
King Kong
Swing Time
High Noon
The Invasion of the Body Snatchers
The Magnificent Ambersons
Help!
The Graduate
It's a Wonderful Life
Blade Runner
A Hard Day's Night
Sabotage
Secret Agent
Tong And Innocent
The Asphalt Jungle
12 Angry Men
The Night of the Hunter
A Night at the Opera
Scaramouche
Fellini Satyricon
The Producers
The Princess Bride
Show Boat
North by Northwest
Adam's Rib
Blowup
Singin' in the Rain
Forbidden Planet
Zulu
Darling
Parths of Glory
The WIzard of Oz
2001
The Killing
The Adventures of Robin Hood
The Graduate (rerelease)
Blade Runner (Rerelease)
West Side Story
Casablance
Some Like it Hot
Ghostbusters
Lawrence of Arabia
Shampoo
Five Easy Pieces
Micacle in Milan
Annie Hall
Jour de Fete
The Great Escape
La Cage aux Follies
Burn!
Burn! (rerelease)
Lolita
Sex, Lies and Videotape
Taxi Driver
The Lacemaker
King of Hearts
Silverado
Raging Bull
Last Tango in Paris
The Big Chill
Dr. No
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Parade
From Russia with Love
Goldfinger
Bad Day at Black Rock
Ger Comes Mr. Jordan
Arsenic and Old Lace
Lady for a Day
The Last Picture Show
Carnal Knowledge
Carrie
Citizen Kane (rerelease)
Dr. Strangelove
The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
Tootsie
Midnight Cowboy
Sunday Bloody Sunday
The Fisher King
Boyz n the Hood
Akira
Letter from an Unknown Woman
Blackmail
Jason and the Argonauts
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
The Player
Damage
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Confidentially Yours
Edward II
The Makioka Sisters
Get Out Your Handkerchiefs
Evergreen
Cries and Whispers
Polyester
Salt of the Earth
Bodies, Rest & Motion
Menace II Society
Othello
Osaka Elegy (in Eclipse on DVD)
Two English Girls
The Last Laugh
The Prince of Tides
She's Gotta Have It
Fellini Satyricon (rerelease)
Cat People
Woman Next Door
Soft Skin
David Holzman's Diary
Halloween
Dersu Uzala
Rome, Open City (Coming soon)
Three Cases of Murder
In Which We Serve
Pulp Fiction
Odd Man Out
Akira (rerlease)
Once Were Warriors
The Atomic Cafe
Why Had Bodhi-Dharma Left for the East?
Blood of a Poet
Belle de jour
I Am Cuba
Se7en
Tristana
Waltz of the Torreadors
Dead Presidents
The Magician
El Cid
Diva
Halloween (rerelease)
The Entertainer
Swept Away
Return of Martin Guerre
Sweet Sweetback's Baadassss Song
Montenegro
The League of Gentlemen
The Princess Bride (rerelease)
Crimes and Misdemeanors
Purple Noon
Trainspotting
A Presonal Journey with Martin Scorsese Trhough American Movies
Supercop
The Umbrellas of Cherbourg
The Life of Oharu
Shine
The English Patient
Evita
Olympia I and II
Pink Flamingos
Breaking the Waves
Nostalgia
Vivre Sa Vie
Five Corners
Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown
Crash
Sling Blade
Breaker Morant
Victim
The Game
Boogie Nights

[jboss]

Originally Posted by ccfixx

I put in an e-mail earlier today to Jon Mulvaney asking that very question, but I have yet to receive a response. I don't imagine they will, but I thought I'd ask anyway. However, you could always just order one of the other cases and print out a custom cover for "Ben Button" if they don't.

CC

I asked this on their Facebook page and was told that they would not be doing a Benjamin Button replacement case.

I don't really have much problem with the existing blu-case/slipcover setup, it'd just be nice to get it to match for uniformity... And these clear cases are sexy!

[substance]

thanks for the laserdisc update. I already have a few of those in my collection I would like to add a few more for the supplements and of course the great art work on the 12" LD cases

I dont mind Benjamin Buttons blue case with a slipcase either but if they offered a replacement i would probably get it.

there are a few mainstream titles which were once on criterion dvd or ld. i wish criterion still had the licenses for them so we could buy them in blu-rays as well.

I dont mind Blade Runner or Citizen Kane type big movies being not on Criterion because they are good sellers and whatever studio is releasing them will do a good job(like they did for blade runner) but titles like the invasion of
the body snatchers , zulu , the silence of the lambs are unlikely going to get a decent release(the silence of the lambs blu-ray is average quality release imho)

[PowellPressburger]

Originally Posted by substance

thanks for the laserdisc update.

I dont mind Blade Runner or Citizen Kane type big movies being not on Criterion because they are good sellers and whatever studio is releasing them will do a good job(like they did for blade runner) but titles like the invasion of the body snatchers , zulu , the silence of the lambs are unlikely going to get a decent release(the silence of the lambs blu-ray is average quality release imho)

I agree with you on the silence of the lambs, that blu ray is really not very good transfer at all. The HD trailer looks better. Maybe one day it will look the way it is supposed to.

[rich_adamson]

Originally Posted by substance

thanks for the laserdisc update. I already have a few of those in my collection I would like to add a few more for the supplements and of course the great art work on the 12" LD cases

I dont mind Benjamin Buttons blue case with a slipcase either but if they offered a replacement i would probably get it.

there are a few mainstream titles which were once on criterion dvd or ld. i wish criterion still had the licenses for them so we could buy them in blu-rays as well.

I dont mind Blade Runner or Citizen Kane type big movies being not on Criterion because they are good sellers and whatever studio is releasing them will do a good job(like they did for blade runner) but titles like the invasion of
the body snatchers , zulu , the silence of the lambs are unlikely going to get a decent release(the silence of the lambs blu-ray is average quality release imho)

I don't mean to nitpick, but seriously, have you seen the UK release of Zulu? It is absolutely amazing....... one of the best transfers to digital I have ever seen. Its also region free and has a decent selection of Special features as well. Check it and the 40th anniversary of the Italian Job out as well, both stellar Paramount titles....

[GGX]

Originally Posted by rich_adamson

I don't mean to nitpick, but seriously, have you seen the UK release of Zulu? It is absolutely amazing....... one of the best transfers to digital I have ever seen. Its also region free and has a decent selection of Special features as well. Check it and the 40th anniversary of the Italian Job out as well, both stellar Paramount titles....

Are you kidding me!? Both of those titles have EE as thick as it comes!

[rezpekt]

Originally Posted by rich_adamson

both stellar Paramount titles....

Both are ruined by excessive DNR. I prefer films with real people over wax figures.

[avstraq]

I don't know if this is the right thread for this...
I just bought The Third Man (probably snatched the last copy) for $30 at the local Fry's.
IMDB lists the film's aspect ratio as 1.37:1, however the Blu-ray case says it's 1.33:1.
Is this a typo on Criterion's part? Or did they crop the film?
Thanks for the help.

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by GGX

Are you kidding me!? Both of those titles have EE as thick as it comes!

Zulu looks awesome...now sure what you are posting about.

[rich_adamson]

Originally Posted by rezpekt

Both are ruined by excessive DNR. I prefer films with real people over wax figures.

Are you kidding me? Even the DNR hounds over as AVS Forums said there was no noticeable DNR or image manipulation on Zulu. It was shot on Super Technirama 70 which has 2x the resolution as standard 35mm shot films. There is just naturally little to no grain evident in this process. Just because something old doesn't exhibit grain doesn't automatically mean DNR. There were multitudes of different film stocks used over time, and each carries their own unique characteristics regarding grain structure etc. Every review I have seen, as well as just looking it over again on my system, it looks immaculate, and the multitude of 4-5 star IQ ratings would attest to that.

-Troy

[rezpekt]

I'm neither blind nor stupid, but both "Zulu" and "The Italian Job" look horribly DNR-ed and "Zulu" has horrible EE halos.

By the way, this is what those AVS "DNR Hounds" say:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1155593
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1173756
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1054596

Zulu - UK Edition
*Excessive DNR and EE

Etc...

[rich_adamson]

Originally Posted by rezpekt

I'm neither blind nor stupid, but both "Zulu" and "The Italian Job" look horribly DNR-ed and "Zulu" has horrible EE halos.

By the way, this is what those AVS "DNR Hounds" say:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1155593
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1173756
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1054596

Etc...

Well first of all, I wasn't calling anyone blind nor stupid, just having a discussion here. I was referring to the actual review on their site, as well as all of the other review sites. I just find it interesting that none of the professional reviewers seem to have any problems with it, granted we don't all watch these things on 25 foot screens, but I digress.

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by rezpekt

I'm neither blind nor stupid, but both "Zulu" and "The Italian Job" look horribly DNR-ed and "Zulu" has horrible EE halos.

Remembering that Zulu is in the U.S. public domain, it's unlikely that it will get a better release over here unless Criterion restore it or license the UK print from Paramount UK.

And The Italian Job has largely been ignored here, so while we may eventually see an American edition of the Paramount UK disc, I really wouldn't bet on seeing a better release of that either.

FWIW, I think the UK releases are fantastic.

[J. J. Hunsecker]

From DVDbeaver's review of Zulu: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare/zulu.htm

To quote the site: "Unreal. This comparison may be one of the 'poster boys' for the Blu-ray format. Although the MGM DVD from 2003 was vastly ahead of the other standard definition transfers - the hi-def Blu-ray blows all of them right out of the water. Aside from the expected colors (see deep rich reds) and detail being abundantly superior this new Paramount disc shows incredible depth. It is framed in around 2.25:1 and is marginally cropped beside the MGM but aside from that the Blu-ray is ridiculously improved. The disc is approaching 40 Gig with the feature being over 35 Gig. The bitrate is 35.1 - almost 5 times that of the competent MGM DVD. Wow - this image quality is one of the most stunning of the year compounded by the fact the film is almost 45 years old."

[Abacab]

If Zulu is a poster boy for anything, it is for DNR. It's terrible.

[retask]

Originally Posted by J. J. Hunsecker

From DVDbeaver's review of Zulu: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare/zulu.htm

To quote the site: "Unreal. This comparison may be one of the 'poster boys' for the Blu-ray format. Although the MGM DVD from 2003 was vastly ahead of the other standard definition transfers - the hi-def Blu-ray blows all of them right out of the water. Aside from the expected colors (see deep rich reds) and detail being abundantly superior this new Paramount disc shows incredible depth. It is framed in around 2.25:1 and is marginally cropped beside the MGM but aside from that the Blu-ray is ridiculously improved. The disc is approaching 40 Gig with the feature being over 35 Gig. The bitrate is 35.1 - almost 5 times that of the competent MGM DVD. Wow - this image quality is one of the most stunning of the year compounded by the fact the film is almost 45 years old."

Omg. Im speechless. I now see a bright future for the release of Lawrence of Arabia, Dr. Zhivago, Bridge over river Kwai and every other epic movie.

[Clamps]

Yeah, judging from the screen shots, it's a bit too much DNR for my taste.

[SpiderBaby]

1st: I don't see nothing wrong with it.
2nd: why is this being talked about in the criterion page again?