The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by Bukax42

Probably, but it looks awful and nothing's gonna change my opinion.

Since when Gandalf the Grey is Gandalf the Green?

What definitely bothers me the most is how those normally beautiful white snowy mountains scenes are now turquoise/green.

[Bukax42]

Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle

What definitely bothers me the most is how those normally beautiful white snowy mountains scenes are now turquoise/green.

Agree.

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...ss=0#vergleich

This is my favourite shot from the FOTR, and now it looks...

[Petyr_Baelish]

I really can't think of a single instance, other than this release where snow has been discolored like that. The harry potter films often use color correction, but they have never used them in snow scenes.

[Oblivion138]

Originally Posted by Roy Batty

Of course not, because people are not complaining about a creative decision on Jackson's part, but about an alteration of the original.

Very big difference there.

The Extended Edition has always been altered from the original. By definition, it's altered from the original.

[Walter E Kurtz]

Originally Posted by amoergosum

What annoys me as much as the change of colors is the loss of dynamic range
because of the contrast boost and underexposure.
Here's a comparison:
First picture: screenshot
Second Picture: screenshot, exposure corrected

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more detail in the top one

the grass turns into one big white mess in the second pic

i really think people should just drop it now anyway....

that same old saying....'dont like? then dont buy it'......move on

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by Oblivion138

The Extended Edition has always been altered from the original. By definition, it's altered from the original.

I know I'm complaining about a creative decision.

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by Walter E Kurtz

more detail in the top one

the grass turns into one big white mess in the second pic

i really think people should just drop it now anyway....

that same old saying....'dont like? then dont buy it'......move on

Its never going to get dropped ok? It will be complained about until the issue is fixed. Intentional or not: its going to get fixed if there are enough complaints. This isn't the same situation as star wars: this is an easy fix. If people say and do nothing, nothing will be done about it. The consumers will complain until their demands are met. If you don't like that, then you shouldn't be here.

BTW, that is totally ridiculous. Both pics have the same exact amount of detail.

[JamesKurtovich]

Originally Posted by bukax42

agree.

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...ss=0#vergleich

this is my favourite shot from the fotr, and now it looks...

Oh my..

Please let there be some sort of EE FOTR disc exchange in our future.

[PGW]

Originally Posted by Walter E Kurtz

more detail in the top one

the grass turns into one big white mess in the second pic

i really think people should just drop it now anyway....

that same old saying....'dont like? then dont buy it'......move on

I think people should complain MORE... and louder, not just here, but on the other boards and on Amazon. If there's enough publicity about this, and enough potential sales loss, maybe... just maybe the powers-that-screwed-up will recall the thing and fix the problem.

If you don't want to hear it... go read another thread.

Don't eat the green snow!

[Brightstar]

Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle

Its never going to get dropped ok? It will be complained about until the issue is fixed. Intentional or not: its going to get fixed if there are enough complaints. This isn't the same situation as star wars: this is an easy fix. If people say and do nothing, nothing will be done about it. The consumers will complain until their demands are met. If you don't like that, then you shouldn't be here.

BTW, that is totally ridiculous. Both pics have the same exact amount of detail.

your the only one complaining on this fourm

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by joliefan

your the only one complaining on this fourm

First of all: I am definitely not the only one. Second of all: I hate Angelina Jolie.

[tollickd]

Just found a unboxing on youtube

[Show spoiler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KCxXeqHfa0

[Romansh]

Originally Posted by frogmort

Well, I've finally decided that I'm definitely not going to buy this. There is no way that Peter Jackson or Andrew Lesnie intended only the extended edition blu-ray of 'The Fellowship Of The Ring' to be devoid of pure white, and for the whole film to have a cyan tint over the entire image from beginning to end.

This is of course pure speculation, yet I can't help but wonder whether they had to re-do the entire color grading for FOTR (as opposed to a specific decision to revisit the original colors), and decided it was a good opportunity to change things a bit. Maybe the original, properly graded master had some issues* which required that the new master be sourced from a scan predating the final/theatrical color grading.

That doesn't explain the new colors, but it could certainly explain why Fellowship is the only of the three which was entirely re-graded.

Let's speculate even further: add budget constraints, and more importantly time constraints, and you get a new color grading that can't be as meticulous as the original**. Throw a bit of bad taste in the mix, don't forget about Murphy's Law, and suddenly the new Fellowship Blu-ray doesn't seem so improbable

*
IIRC, the comparisons with an HD TV recording showed that some of the DNR and edge enhancement issues were specific to the theatrical edition's Blu-ray, but that doesn't mean the master wasn't quite poor to begin with.

**
I'm sure neither Jackson nor Lesnie can spend as much time on color grading a new Fellowship master as they did back then. Doing what they originally did (grade different parts of the same image individually) in a timely fashion is certainly no small task and would likely require that many of the decisions (and opposed to just most of the work) be delegated.

Originally Posted by frogmort

It may not be excessively bad, but I honestly can't see how that could've been done deliberately.

I, on the other hand, have to trouble believing it can be intentional. That doesn't mean it is, but it really wouldn't surprise me if it were.

After all, historical accuracy notwithstanding, this presentation is good enough for many/most people. Maybe Jackson and Lesnie liked the new ambiance overall and decided that a a few scenes here and there just weren't worth the effort.

What a speculative post I just wrote!

But then, at this point, all we can do is notice the new colors and tint; the rest is just speculation anyway…

[droid]

Originally Posted by joliefan

your the only one complaining on this fourm

He's not.

The Matrix has the Fellowship.

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by tollickd

Just found a unboxing on youtube

[Show spoiler]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KCxXeqHfa0

Cool Video

[mixxed_up]

What's the problem now? People still think there will be an replacement, although the green tint is the wish of Peter Jackson?! There is NO issue, because the color is supposed to look that way. There is no need to change it once again.

It's now the best release of the EEs, that will ever be buyable. I bet the "Ultimate" Edition will have far more color "improvements" than this release.

[Brodo Faggins]

I wish this thread had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.

[Romansh]

Originally Posted by tollickd

Just found a unboxing on youtube

[Show spoiler]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KCxXeqHfa0

Interesting vid. Doesn't look as orange as the pictures previously posted in this thread.

[Aquel]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

Cool Video

Is the UK boxset the same as the US boxset by the way (and/or is it different in any other way?)

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by Aquel

Is the UK boxset the same as the US boxset by the way (and/or is it different in any other way?)

I couldn't tell you if there is a difference between the Two ~ Sorry