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Old 09-05-2020, 10:58 PM   #4141
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"Star Wars: Episode IV A New Hope UK Blu-ray Lucasfilm Ltd." The new Disney releases?
Yes, mate. Top ones are the old masters, the bottom ones are from the newer ones.
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Old 09-05-2020, 11:36 PM   #4142
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I know there just screen caps but the colour is not helping persuade me to buy them, I mean come on how much yellow do you want in the film?
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Old 09-06-2020, 02:11 AM   #4143
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I know there just screen caps but the colour is not helping persuade me to buy them, I mean come on how much yellow do you want in the film?
Depends on how much blue and magenta you can tolerate in the other one I guess. Somewhere inbetween would've been my preference - though it's worth mentioning that the HDR grades add some more punch to the colour than seen here on SDR Blu - but I will never, ever watch those absurdly oversaturated and blown out (look at the speculars on Threepio in the 'overlooking Mos Eisley' shot) 2011 Blu-rays again.
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Old 09-06-2020, 04:35 AM   #4144
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Somewhere inbetween would've been my preference
Agreed, its better but still not perfect :/ At least its more realistic in most ways but it really needed someone who was in charge of the filming to do the colour grading imo. Or just avoid using the same colour temperature settings for the entire movie, of all the movies you'd think someone would spend a bit more time doing this properly

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Old 09-06-2020, 11:09 AM   #4145
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Sorry to hear people haven't been getting the new TROS slip from HMV online, I guess I was lucky ordering on the first day.

I would have been tempted with upgrading Solo to 4K as well, but I kept hearing how dark it is in comparison to the BD, and my TVs contrast ratio isn't great to handle that.
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Old 09-06-2020, 12:23 PM   #4146
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Agreed, its better but still not perfect :/ At least its more realistic in most ways but it really needed someone who was in charge of the filming to do the colour grading imo. Or just avoid using the same colour temperature settings for the entire movie, of all the movies you'd think someone would spend a bit more time doing this properly
Maybe they could get Lucas to oversee the next attempts. Wait, no...

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Yes, mate. Top ones are the old masters, the bottom ones are from the newer ones.
Thanks for the comparison shots. I much prefer the look of the newer discs. The difference looks to be night and day! Can't wait to get them all in the post and give them a spin
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Old 09-07-2020, 10:21 AM   #4148
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Yes, mate. Top ones are the old masters, the bottom ones are from the newer ones.
Cheers! I have to say that watching the BDs I never noticed the colour, it doesn't appear as obvious as it does in the caps you posted.

I love the new presentations. I haven't been blown away by a Star Wars reissue since the Definitive Edition LD set. So it was a very welcome (and long overdue) treat to watch them all again.

Empire looks amazing IMO.
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Old 09-07-2020, 12:08 PM   #4149
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Where’s the best place to get Rogue One 4K with a guaranteed slipcover?
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Old 09-07-2020, 12:42 PM   #4150
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Where’s the best place to get Rogue One 4K with a guaranteed slipcover?
Had one delivered from HMV this week.
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Old 09-07-2020, 12:47 PM   #4151
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In terms of guaranteed slipcover, the best bet would be to physically go to one of the HMV stores and then you'll be able to see what you're getting.

All my Star Wars 4Ks I got from HMV online in the last couple of weeks have come with slipcovers, including Rogue One.
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Old 09-07-2020, 12:54 PM   #4152
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I just moved to Cyprus so can’t use HMV unfortunately. Zavvi hasn’t got it even on the webpage.

I should have mentioned that boys, apologies.

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Old 09-07-2020, 02:17 PM   #4153
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Star Wars: Episode IV: The Empire Strikes Back UK Blu-ray 20th Century Fox (top) to Star Wars: Episode IV: The Empire Strikes Back UK Blu-ray Lucasfilm Ltd. comparisons



































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Old 09-07-2020, 06:41 PM   #4154
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Just had the email from Zoom to say my replacement of Rise of Skywalker has dispatched. What’s the bet it’s the old one again lol.
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Old 09-07-2020, 07:51 PM   #4155
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Yes, mate. Top ones are the old masters, the bottom ones are from the newer ones.
This is precisely why I prefer the 2011 ones. The colour maybe could go a little less blue in those caps but the colour saturation brings out the vibrancy of the locations and sets more. The Disney one is too yellow and desaturated for my taste. If they released the trilogy with the colours of the 2011 release, the image detail of the Disney releases and fixed the lightsaber effects I'd buy it.

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but I will never, ever watch those absurdly oversaturated and blown out (look at the speculars on Threepio in the 'overlooking Mos Eisley' shot) 2011 Blu-rays again.
Look at the chessboard of the Falcon. In the 2011 version at least you can make out the colours.

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I know there just screen caps but the colour is not helping persuade me to buy them, I mean come on how much yellow do you want in the film?
A lot according to some people here...

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Cheers! I have to say that watching the BDs I never noticed the colour, it doesn't appear as obvious as it does in the caps you posted.
I've been rewatching the 2011 releases and the colour is vibrant. It's just the lightsabers and some of the grading that isn't quite there.

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[B][I][CENTER]Star Wars: Episode IV: The Empire Strikes Back UK Blu-ray 20th Century Fox (top) to Star Wars: Episode IV: The Empire Strikes Back UK Blu-ray Lucasfilm Ltd. comparisons
Thanks for the caps. Likes that last example is really depressing. When you get to ROTJ if you cap the Endor jungle the colour is hugely different between sources. The 2011 has vibrant colour detail missing from the new releases because everything is grey.
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Old 09-07-2020, 08:27 PM   #4156
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Just had the email from Zoom to say my replacement of Rise of Skywalker has dispatched. What’s the bet it’s the old one again lol.
Same here
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Old 09-07-2020, 08:43 PM   #4157
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I e-mailed them on Friday asking for slipcovers and they haven’t replied yet.
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Old 09-08-2020, 09:15 AM   #4158
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Look at the chessboard of the Falcon. In the 2011 version at least you can make out the colours.
I can't see an image of the board of the falcon posted here but I can't say I prefer one over the other on these images, it's so hard to tell with screenshots on computer display vs something running in its full glory on a proper TV without the compression, they're different for sure, the new colours do looked toned down on the new shots. I only ever watch the despecialised edits so I dont exactly have a horse in this race.
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Old 09-08-2020, 10:55 AM   #4159
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Thanks again for the comparison shots @chip75

And @pferreira, I totally see where you are coming from in regards to the colours. They do look more muted (you could say) in the newer versions.

But I've actually gone though this whole internal debate when trying to settle on a picture setting for my TV. When I got the new TV (an upgrade from an old plasma), I found all the various settings bewildering and overwhelming. After much obsessive online research, I moved away from my initial settings (which were more "blue white") to whats generally considered more accurate (a sort of "yellow white").

Now even at that, I still don't have it set to what is considered *most* accurate, as it looks even too yellow white for my comfort levels. But I'm happy that what I'm looking at now is more colour accurate than what I started out with.

In comparison, the older blurays look more like the "vivid" settings on my TV. Punchy colours and a very strong "blue white", where as the new blurays have more of the "cinema" setting "yellow white" look to them.
Of course its a personal preference as to which you prefer (or which you are more used to seeing), but to my eyes now, the newer versions look more natural compared to the older ones.

I'll know more when I eventually get them in the post to watch
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Old 09-08-2020, 12:52 PM   #4160
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Have the Blu-rays for Solo A Stars Wars Story, Rise of Skywalker, The Last Jedi and Rogue One been remastered too? I know the first 3 have had 4K releases but I don’t know if the Blu-rays are the same. Thanks
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