Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Would it surprise you to learn that YouTube is the most popular streaming service in Japan - the free version. Followed by Prime and Netflix

It would not surprise me. I wouldn't know exactly what to do with that extremely useful information.

Well, 20% of the people in my house are vegetarian so I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by bhampton

My BD came with the digital copy and I've seen the Blu Ray version about 3 times so far.

I was going to skip this film, but that is a big endorsement of it.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Is the chart useless because it doesn't defend your opinion?

fist of all I don't care (I don't subscribe to streaming) and I am always pro people having choices so honestl I don't care either way. But if you bothered reading I explained very clearly why it is useless.

Do your own research - present it and we will tear it apart - just like you do.

Like you I know the answer we have discussed it in the past. I just could not bother to get the numbers from them that show the huge difference between real world and bad survey question world results.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by bhampton

It would not surprise me. I wouldn't know exactly what to do with that extremely useful information.

You apply it to the graph. They aren't using AVOD or SVOD as their most popular streaming service isn't either. So don't know/no opinion would be the correct response.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Also, if you stay a member on Gamefly for a year, or maybe less, they'll open up the 3-4 at time tiers. I'm at 4 at time with them.

Thanks for the info. I intend stay for as long as they rent disc . IIRC you mentioned that you have purchased used disc from them.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

fist of all I don't care (I don't subscribe to streaming) and I am always pro people having choices so honestl I don't care either way. But if you bothered reading I explained very clearly why it is useless.

LMAO! From your made up Straw Man Argument?

Like you I know the answer we have discussed it in the past. I just could not bother to get the numbers from them that show the huge difference between real world and bad survey question world results.

Either you present FACTS that state that the chart results are no good or accept them and move on.

[Boccaccio]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

My satellite provider SKY, (the biggest pay tv service in U.K.) wants customers to switch to their new IPTV service and pay £5 extra per month to get rid of forced ads that we can currently skip via the set top box. Unbelievable.

Over here it's a lot worse. You can't even skip ads from a recorded program anymore.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Thanks for the info. I intend stay for as long as they rent disc . IIRC you mentioned that you have purchased used disc from them.

Yes, they have pretty good deals on physical media. I've gotten several 4K discs from them at great prices. They're complete, as well, so if it has a slipcover, BD, digital code, it will be included with purchase.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Boccaccio

Over here it's a lot worse. You can't even skip ads from a recorded program anymore.

Disgraceful, that will come here soon enough.

[Boccaccio]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Disgraceful, that will come here soon enough.

I hope for your sake it doesn't.

Apparently they did some research over here where it became clear almost everyone was skipping ads. Then the companies that were paying for the ads started complaining to the cable company.
After that something was implemented that makes you unable to fast forward during the ads. Horrible practice.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

LMAO! From your made up Straw Man Argument?

now is it a straw man argument? do you even know what it means?

Either you present FACTS that state that the chart results are no good or accept them and move on.

I did both Disney and Netflix have clearly told us most of their accounts are not with ads I let you gi cgheck for yourslf how much the chart is off vs reality.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

now is it a straw man argument? do you even know what it means?

I sure do. But I am doubting that you do. Better look it up.

I did both Disney and Netflix have clearly told us most of their accounts are not with ads I let you gi cgheck for yourslf how much the chart is off vs reality.

I don't see any links or charts. You do realize that Peacock, Paramount+, MAX and Hulu all offer AVODs.

Why are you obsessed with Disney+ and Netflix?

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Boccaccio

I hope for your sake it doesn't.

Apparently they did some research over here where it became clear almost everyone was skipping ads. Then the companies that were paying for the ads started complaining to the cable company.
After that something was implemented that makes you unable to fast forward during the ads. Horrible practice.

yuck.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

I sure do. But I am doubting that you do. Better look it up.

obviously you don't since straw man does not mean someone with a math degree explaining why in his stats courses and courses on how to build a proper survey a vague question like the one asked is useless and so any chart derived from it.

I don't see any links or charts. You do realize that Peacock, Paramount+, MAX and Hulu all offer AVODs.

Why are you obsessed with Disney+ and Netflix?

not obsessed, Disney (which includes Hulu and disney+) and Netflix are the two biggest players and we have discussed their numbers in the past so we both now it is not even close to an even split let alone the ad being higher. As for the rest if you have something that shows for them it is vastly differently please show us.

[bhampton]

Lee,

Can you heckle one of my posts again?

I feel nothing except I'm impressed with it just being pointless. I think I'm immune now to your antagonistic style that recently earned you an overdue ban.

So, ... If you would zing me again a couple of times. (Use this post if needed or I posted a few more) I want to think I've learned I can take your posts for what they are worth.

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Yes, they have pretty good deals on physical media. I've gotten several 4K discs from them at great prices. They're complete, as well, so if it has a slipcover, BD, digital code, it will be included with purchase.

Wow, .... I must try this .. maybe with Cocaine Bear, X, Promising Young Woman. I have read you got great prices.

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by Boccaccio

Over here it's a lot worse. You can't even skip ads from a recorded program anymore.

Why do you think Vr is so interesting to investors - Eye tracking.

Want to use the bathroom? .... your ads will be waiting for when you come back.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Wow, .... I must try this .. maybe with Cocaine Bear, X, Promising Young Woman. I have read you got great prices.

This is your bear:



This is your bear on drugs:

[Boccaccio]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Why do you think Vr is so interesting to investors - Eye tracking.

Want to use the bathroom? .... your ads will be waiting for when you come back.

Sadly, they will always find new ways to pile this garbage on us.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

obviously you don't since straw man does not mean someone with a math degree explaining why in his stats courses and courses on how to build a proper survey a vague question like the one asked is useless and so any chart derived from it.

These are your words:

let me explain why such charts (surveys) are useless. If I were to ask would you

And THAT is the beginning of a Straw Man Argument:

Straw man argument is the distortion of someone else’s argument to make it easier to attack or refute. Instead of addressing the actual argument of the opponent, one may present a somewhat similar but not equal argument.

not obsessed, Disney (which includes Hulu and disney+) and Netflix are the two biggest players and we have discussed their numbers in the past so we both now it is not even close to an even split let alone the ad being higher. As for the rest if you have something that shows for them it is vastly differently please show us.

No - Netflix is the biggest player. Then comes Amazon Prime. MAX is bigger than Disney+ because HBO is included. Disney is 4th and that doesn't include Hulu.

I have already produced a chart from a reputable source. You have produced jack shit.