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Agent Kay · 09-30-2018, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by notops

Projection much?

Yeah you are a little, it's a bit silly really if you have not read his script and are projecting anger in me.
I didn't see anything in avatar bar sleep

notops · 09-30-2018, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Yeah you are a little, it's a bit silly really if you have not read his script and are projecting anger in me.
I didn't see anything in avatar bar sleep

I'm not projecting anything. Multiple question marks and tossing an F-bomb at me in your response is not a sign of just laughing something off. It's quite the opposite, actually.

Like I already said, relax. I made an (incorrect) assumption which I prefaced as an assumption.

Eulogywerd · 09-30-2018, 09:13 PM

Is that the final artwork for Part II because I'm very confused by the gun on display? Is it a machine gun or a RPG?

Dailyan · 09-30-2018, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogywerd

Is it a machine gun or a RPG?

Both.

Agent Kay · 09-30-2018, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogywerd

Is that the final artwork for Part II because I'm very confused by the gun on display? Is it a machine gun or a RPG?

It's also an original poster, mostly

Noremac Mij · 10-01-2018, 04:26 AM

Mike is right, political/social commentary is all Jim. I have the original script and it’s 90% on screen. All of the action and plot is from the creative mind of Cameron. The only major change is that Rambo originally had a sidekick and Stallone rewrote the character as the POW. I do however think that Mike misses the point of the movie.

Bates_Motel · 10-01-2018, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DMRI2006

Yeah I would not say RAMBO III was a "Cannon film" at all.

Frankly I find it much more fun than II, which is really kind of a grind. It rode the wave of the Vietnam genre at the time and everybody went to see it, but even given its short running time, it's tediously paced. My least favorite of the whole series.

It actually didn't. Uncommon Valor was 1983, but Missing in Action in 1984 actually ripped off the "plot" about rescuing POWs from the script for Rambo II and was made quickly to come out first. So Rambo II didn't ride any "wave," it just got ripped off before it even came out. (And for the record, Missing in Action II was originally supposed to be the first one, but they switched it and the sequel to beat Rambo into theaters.)

KcMsterpce · 10-01-2018, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Eulogywerd

Is it a machine gun or a RPG?

It's a Colt RKYA-RPMG1. The abbreviation stands for "Colt Rambo-Killz-Your-Ass, Rocket Propelled Machine Gun, [version] 1."

I like that Rambo II was a precursor to the same themes presented for the emotional torment/PTSD issues that Ripley experiences in ALIENS. The idea of "going back" to the place where she never wanted to go (ie, Rambo having to relive his experiences by going back to 'Nam).

DMRI2006 · 10-01-2018, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

It actually didn't. Uncommon Valor was 1983, but Missing in Action in 1984 actually ripped off the "plot" about rescuing POWs from the script for Rambo II and was made quickly to come out first. So Rambo II didn't ride any "wave," it just got ripped off before it even came out. (And for the record, Missing in Action II was originally supposed to be the first one, but they switched it and the sequel to beat Rambo into theaters.)

I'm well aware "for the record" that MIA2 was made first. Either way, Vietnam movies were already entrenched in theaters by the mid 80s and the subject matter was "hot" and commercial. That's what I was saying. RAMBO II made an enormous amount of money, far more than the (far better) original, first and foremost because of the subject matter. Don't really care what ripped off what -- just making an observation as to why II was so insanely popular at the time. Had it come out a few years later, it doesn't generate that kind of insane box-office response most likely.

davcole · 10-01-2018, 03:52 PM

I'm very curious about this 'restoration' on First Blood. Great film but it's never looked great, particularly the forest scenes. I will be anxious for the first reviews.

Also, did Lionsgate ever find the original audio stems? I know the DVD and I believe the Blu-ray, are a matrixed form of 5.1?

Geoff D · 10-01-2018, 04:20 PM

I dunno if it'll look "great" by purely objective standards even with a brand new 4K restoration from the original negative, but if it looks anything like as filmic as SC's Deer Hunter restoration then we are in for a 35mm treat.

Bourne1886 · 10-02-2018, 02:07 AM

Looks like the U.K. releases on the 4k’s are missing the commentaries on 2 and 3 and the Selling the Hero featurette on 3 according to Zavvi and Amazon. The U.K. versions show the restoration features on all of them. The U.S 4k of First Blood 1 is the only one shown as having the restoration featurette the other 2 don’t!

Also the U.K. ones are being released by Studio Canal, are they better/worse or the same as Lionsgate when it comes to transfers etc?

Agent Kay · 10-02-2018, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by davcole

I'm very curious about this 'restoration' on First Blood. Great film but it's never looked great, particularly the forest scenes. I will be anxious for the first reviews.

Also, did Lionsgate ever find the original audio stems? I know the DVD and I believe the Blu-ray, are a matrixed form of 5.1?

You have two current choices, yellow or red.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...=58110&i=2&l=0

Dailyan · 10-02-2018, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent Kay

You have two current choices, yellow or red.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...=58110&i=2&l=0

Man, I can’t wait for David Caruso’s hair to pop out on HDR.

Guydowood · 10-02-2018, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dailyan

Man, I can’t wait for David Caruso’s hair to pop out on HDR.

I knew there was something about that guy.....

caruso-rambo.jpg

Jlouisbarrett · 10-02-2018, 01:14 PM

So, it seems like there will be no three film set for either the U.S. or U.K.?

Pieter V · 10-02-2018, 01:27 PM

FYI - No Dolby Vision, that's what Studio Canal told me.

ROSS.T.G. · 10-02-2018, 01:30 PM

Good thing HDR10 looks lovely. I can’t wait for these

indisposed · 10-02-2018, 02:01 PM

I watched the Optimum Blu-ray of First Blood again last night to compare the framing between that and the Studio Canal 2011 remaster and i noticed a pretty amusing goof in the very first shot of the film... Before we see Stallone walk down the lane in the wideshot, you can see someone in the corner of the left-hand side of the screen who clearly calls to Sly to give him his cue and then disappears from frame. You can see it in both masters, but it's more noticeable in the version that is correctly framed...

Oh well... I'll take that over camera "barndoors" being visible in shots.

PeterTHX · 10-02-2018, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

Good thing HDR10 looks lovely. I can’t wait for these

Yeah, but DV can look better and a bit more future proofed since it's unlikely they'll revisit these in the future. We're still dealing with the old First Blood BD here from 2007.

09-30-2018, 09:13 PM	#423
Eulogywerd Member Member since:Oct 2011 4K collection:49 Blu-ray collection:555	Is that the final artwork for Part II because I'm very confused by the gun on display? Is it a machine gun or a RPG?

10-01-2018, 04:26 AM	#426
Noremac Mij Banned Member since:Aug 2018 4K collection:80 Blu-ray collection:80	Mike is right, political/social commentary is all Jim. I have the original script and it’s 90% on screen. All of the action and plot is from the creative mind of Cameron. The only major change is that Rambo originally had a sidekick and Stallone rewrote the character as the POW. I do however think that Mike misses the point of the movie.

10-01-2018, 03:52 PM	#430
davcole Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Cincinnati, Oh 4K collection:138 Blu-ray collection:407 Digital collection:25 Blu-ray reviews: 146 Trading Score:9	I'm very curious about this 'restoration' on First Blood. Great film but it's never looked great, particularly the forest scenes. I will be anxious for the first reviews. Also, did Lionsgate ever find the original audio stems? I know the DVD and I believe the Blu-ray, are a matrixed form of 5.1?

10-01-2018, 04:20 PM	#431
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	I dunno if it'll look "great" by purely objective standards even with a brand new 4K restoration from the original negative, but if it looks anything like as filmic as SC's Deer Hunter restoration then we are in for a 35mm treat.

10-02-2018, 02:07 AM	#432
Bourne1886 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2010 Location:East Anglia, U.K. 4K collection:308 Blu-ray collection:1041 DVD collection:141 Digital collection:2 iTunes collection:64 Blu-ray reviews: 89	Looks like the U.K. releases on the 4k’s are missing the commentaries on 2 and 3 and the Selling the Hero featurette on 3 according to Zavvi and Amazon. The U.K. versions show the restoration features on all of them. The U.S 4k of First Blood 1 is the only one shown as having the restoration featurette the other 2 don’t! Also the U.K. ones are being released by Studio Canal, are they better/worse or the same as Lionsgate when it comes to transfers etc?

10-02-2018, 01:14 PM	#436
Jlouisbarrett Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2015 Location:The 5th Dimension	So, it seems like there will be no three film set for either the U.S. or U.K.?

10-02-2018, 01:27 PM	#437
Pieter V Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:14	FYI - No Dolby Vision, that's what Studio Canal told me.

10-02-2018, 01:30 PM	#438
ROSS.T.G. Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Ontario, Canada 4K collection:393 Blu-ray collection:1549 Blu-ray reviews:16	Good thing HDR10 looks lovely. I can’t wait for these

10-02-2018, 02:01 PM	#439
indisposed Power Member Member since:Oct 2010 Location:South Wales, U.K	I watched the Optimum Blu-ray of First Blood again last night to compare the framing between that and the Studio Canal 2011 remaster and i noticed a pretty amusing goof in the very first shot of the film... Before we see Stallone walk down the lane in the wideshot, you can see someone in the corner of the left-hand side of the screen who clearly calls to Sly to give him his cue and then disappears from frame. You can see it in both masters, but it's more noticeable in the version that is correctly framed... Oh well... I'll take that over camera "barndoors" being visible in shots.

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