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Old 02-24-2011, 02:13 PM   #4501
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MaCruz and Miker,

How was the improvement of the RC-LCR compared to what you had before? I think you two mentioned you just recently got it.

Miker, how was the change from when you first got it to after 100 hours and could you try to describe the sound?
Well, the LCR and RC-10's sounded pretty good right out of the box, but I noticed over time their tone changed and lower frequencies became more pronounced, and highs became smoother. I found the balance between the frequencies began to even out. At about 40 to 50 hrs I noticed a significant change and thought they sounded great and then about 80 to 90 hrs I still noticed more change as described above. This may have all been just in my head, but I could swear I noticed the difference as time progressed. By 80 to 90 hrs is when I think I heard the most change and they were pretty much the same after that; well balanced across the frequency range and nice detail. It's amazing now much I hear with these speakers that I've never heard before, very subtle things like someone breathing or crackling of gravel under someones feet as they walk. It was definitely and eye opening experience for me. I had an Infinity center and Yamaha floor standers before these and I always thought I had a pretty nice set up before.

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Old 02-24-2011, 02:38 PM   #4502
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Well, the LCR and RC-10's sounded pretty good right out of the box, but I noticed over time their tone changed and lower frequencies became more pronounced, and highs became smoother. I found the balance between the frequencies began to even out. At about 40 to 50 hrs I noticed a significant change and thought they sounded great and then about 80 to 90 hrs I still noticed more change as described above. This may have all been just in my head, but I could swear I noticed the difference as time progressed. By 80 to 90 hrs is when I think I heard the most change and they were pretty much the same after that; well balanced across the frequency range and nice detail. It's amazing now much I hear with these speakers that I've never heard before, very subtle things like someone breathing or crackling of gravel under someones feet as they walk. It was definitely and eye opening experience for me. I had an Infinity center and Yamaha floor standers before these and I always thought I had a pretty nice set up before.
I was watching Unthinkable the other day and on my Dynaudios I heard a door open..... there was no door in the scene Hows that for full detail resolution?
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Old 02-24-2011, 02:51 PM   #4503
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I was watching Unthinkable the other day and on my Dynaudios I heard a door open..... there was no door in the scene Hows that for full detail resolution?
Yea, isn't that something. I sometimes here a sound and I think someone is in the house with me and I'm home alone...

I'm leaving to go to home depot to get some sand and look for that quakehold again. The web site says they have it so I'm going to look for it again. Then I'm off to take the drug screen to start my new job.
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Old 02-24-2011, 02:56 PM   #4504
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MaCruz and Miker,

How was the improvement of the RC-LCR compared to what you had before? I think you two mentioned you just recently got it.

Miker, how was the change from when you first got it to after 100 hours and could you try to describe the sound?
I thought my setup was complete when I had the RC-30's equipped with the C-C100 center channel. It sound very good and I was pleased. Decided to get the matching RC-LCR about 2 weeks later. When I got the LCR, I was blown away how much better it was compared to the C-C100.
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Old 02-24-2011, 03:33 PM   #4505
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I can not take it anymore. Will be getting one of those LCRs from ebay sometime next week. I dont want to lose out on a great product. I just have to pay off my current purchase before i make another.

I was not planning on getting the RC-Rs for my rears but get Axioms QS8s instead. Now if i can find a great deal on the energies i would love to keep it all in the family. This system would serve me well for many years.

I dont know what it is but ive fallen in love with this brand

I also have the speakers on being broken in by 30 Seconds to Mars whike i am away at work. I am hoping to get in about thirty hours before my poker party and speaker unveiling tomorrow

Both Mikes, how long did it take for shipping of the LCR to your respective houses?

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Old 02-24-2011, 04:36 PM   #4506
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I can not take it anymore. Will be getting one of those LCRs from ebay sometime next week. I dont want to lose out on a great product. I just have to pay off my current purchase before i make another.

I was not planning on getting the RC-Rs for my rears but get Axioms QS8s instead. Now if i can find a great deal on the energies i would love to keep it all in the family. This system would serve me well for many years.

I dont know what it is but ive fallen in love with this brand

I also have the speakers on being broken in by 30 Seconds to Mars whike i am away at work. I am hoping to get in about thirty hours before my poker party and speaker unveiling tomorrow

Both Mikes, how long did it take for shipping of the LCR to your respective houses?
You won't regret. Me and Mike went ahead and jumped on them before we missed out. Luckily there's plenty in stock, even today. I'd say once you order, expect to get it within a week.
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Old 02-24-2011, 04:49 PM   #4507
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I can not take it anymore. Will be getting one of those LCRs from ebay sometime next week. I dont want to lose out on a great product. I just have to pay off my current purchase before i make another.

I was not planning on getting the RC-Rs for my rears but get Axioms QS8s instead. Now if i can find a great deal on the energies i would love to keep it all in the family. This system would serve me well for many years.

I dont know what it is but ive fallen in love with this brand

I also have the speakers on being broken in by 30 Seconds to Mars whike i am away at work. I am hoping to get in about thirty hours before my poker party and speaker unveiling tomorrow

Both Mikes, how long did it take for shipping of the LCR to your respective houses?
Thats great to hear. I really loved my Energys also while I had them for that 3 yr period. They are a great brand. I would probably have stayed with Energys also if not for the Dynaudios. I think I would probably have RC-50s as well. But Im so happy that I got the deal on my Dyns.

Don't miss out on the RC-LCR. If you have to get Axiom QS8s for surrounds, you will be fine, they make nice speakers and Im sure the sound wont be to far off in HT, so you should be fine.
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Old 02-24-2011, 08:32 PM   #4508
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I can not take it anymore. Will be getting one of those LCRs from ebay sometime next week. I dont want to lose out on a great product. I just have to pay off my current purchase before i make another.

I was not planning on getting the RC-Rs for my rears but get Axioms QS8s instead. Now if i can find a great deal on the energies i would love to keep it all in the family. This system would serve me well for many years.

I dont know what it is but ive fallen in love with this brand

I also have the speakers on being broken in by 30 Seconds to Mars whike i am away at work. I am hoping to get in about thirty hours before my poker party and speaker unveiling tomorrow

Both Mikes, how long did it take for shipping of the LCR to your respective houses?
It took 9 days to get mine in, but I believe it had more to do with the weather. It shipped from Ohio, and went to Illinois, and that's where the snow storms were playing havoc on traveling, so I suspected it would slow things down and it did.
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Old 02-24-2011, 08:51 PM   #4509
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OK, so I got my sand at Home Depot this morning. They had the sand used for pool filtration systems but the "play sand" was cheaper and just as good so I got it. The sand appears to be very clean and dry. It even says on the bag, "screened, washed, and dried." It was also well packaged in a thick plastic bag so it's nice and dry.

After searching for quakehold or an equivalent at 4 different places, I decided to try Stine, and found the item below called Blue Stik. Each bag comes with 4 sticks that look like each stick (once rolled into a ball) would be just the right size to fit in each corner of the stand, so I bought 2 packs, one for each speaker.

Now all I need is to get some used panty hose from the wife tonight and I'll be all set to fill my stands tomorrow.

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Old 02-24-2011, 09:16 PM   #4510
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OK, so I got my sand at Home Depot this morning. They had the sand used for pool filtration systems but the "play sand" was cheaper and just as good so I got it. The sand appears to be very clean and dry. It even says on the bag, "screened, washed, and dried." It was also well packaged in a thick plastic bag so it's nice and dry.

After searching for quakehold or an equivalent at 4 different places, I decided to try Stine, and found the item below called Blue Stik. Each bag comes with 4 sticks that look like each stick (once rolled into a ball) would be just the right size to fit in each corner of the stand, so I bought 2 packs, one for each speaker.

Now all I need is to get some used panty hose from the wife tonight and I'll be all set to fill my stands tomorrow.


I personally like the tranparebt rubber disc that I fix to my stand and the gloss finish of the Speaker makes it stick to it, don't forget to also put some of that blue glue under your center channel or use rubber disc that is used to absorb kitchen cabinets.
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Old 02-24-2011, 09:28 PM   #4511
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I personally like the tranparebt rubber disc that I fix to my stand and the gloss finish of the Speaker makes it stick to it, don't forget to also put some of that blue glue under your center channel or use rubber disc that is used to absorb kitchen cabinets.
You know Olivier, I was thinking about that center channel and if I should put something under it. I have the little rubber tabs that came with the speaker attached and sitting on that glass shelf. I was wondering if I should add something or not. Can you elaborate on the "rubber discs," as I'm not sure what you're talking about. LOL
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You know Olivier, I was thinking about that center channel and if I should put something under it. I have the little rubber tabs that came with the speaker attached and sitting on that glass shelf. I was wondering if I should add something or not. Can you elaborate on the "rubber discs," as I'm not sure what you're talking about. LOL
Miker, what are you using the blue stick for?
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Well, as I mentioned before. I have completely been enamored by Energy speakers so I went ahead and purchased the RC-LCR and RC-R to finish out my system from eBay. I am now very excited. I have never owned a high-quality system before and now Energy will do that for me.

I did not really want to pull the trigger just yet but I did not want to lose out on the current stock of new speakers and I did not believe the prices would do down much if I waited around and risked losing out getting a whole matching set of speakers.

My little 14'x14' room is going to be rocking pretty hard.
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OK, so I got my sand at Home Depot this morning. They had the sand used for pool filtration systems but the "play sand" was cheaper and just as good so I got it. The sand appears to be very clean and dry. It even says on the bag, "screened, washed, and dried." It was also well packaged in a thick plastic bag so it's nice and dry.

After searching for quakehold or an equivalent at 4 different places, I decided to try Stine, and found the item below called Blue Stik. Each bag comes with 4 sticks that look like each stick (once rolled into a ball) would be just the right size to fit in each corner of the stand, so I bought 2 packs, one for each speaker.

Now all I need is to get some used panty hose from the wife tonight and I'll be all set to fill my stands tomorrow.

how much was the sand? I want to get some myself, I still haven't done that.

That blue stick should work just fine. It looks like the same stuff only a little different.
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You know Olivier, I was thinking about that center channel and if I should put something under it. I have the little rubber tabs that came with the speaker attached and sitting on that glass shelf. I was wondering if I should add something or not. Can you elaborate on the "rubber discs," as I'm not sure what you're talking about. LOL
On kitchen cabinets we usually put a Transparent self adhesive rubber pad that we put on each corner of the door to absorb the impact so it's we don't hurtour ears.

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http://www.shopwiki.com/Clear-Self~Adhesive-Rubber-Pads
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how much was the sand? I want to get some myself, I still haven't done that.

That blue stick should work just fine. It looks like the same stuff only a little different.
Those stick are great for posters they often use it in schools here to hang some of the kid drawings on the wall. Beware though this stuff hardens with time but it take a while, months/years. I like my rubber bumpers you just stick one to each corner of you top plate and it pretty secure. you would have to pretty much knock the stand down to make the speaker fall.

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Well, as I mentioned before. I have completely been enamored by Energy speakers so I went ahead and purchased the RC-LCR and RC-R to finish out my system from eBay. I am now very excited. I have never owned a high-quality system before and now Energy will do that for me.

I did not really want to pull the trigger just yet but I did not want to lose out on the current stock of new speakers and I did not believe the prices would do down much if I waited around and risked losing out getting a whole matching set of speakers.

My little 14'x14' room is going to be rocking pretty hard.
Hey, my living room is 16x13 so its not much bigger, and let me tell you I love watching movies and blasting out my music. I am sure that once you get it all broke in you will love it too.

Congrats on the complete setup.
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Miker, what are you using the blue stick for?
Well, Steve and the gang here suggested I use a museum putty like "Quakehold" to adhere the speakers to the stands to keep them from falling off accidentally. I think they also help a little in vibration reduction between the stands and speaker if I'm not mistaken.
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Well, Steve and the gang here suggested I use a museum putty like "Quakehold" to adhere the speakers to the stands to keep them from falling off accidentally. I think they also help a little in vibration reduction between the stands and speaker if I'm not mistaken.
The idea is really to to have the least point of contact as possible Mike, And make sure the speaker does not start moving on the stand and also make sure it absorbs vibration. What ever works
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how much was the sand? I want to get some myself, I still haven't done that.

That blue stick should work just fine. It looks like the same stuff only a little different.
Steve, the sand was $3.40 for a 50 lb bag at Home Depot. It was sold inside next to the concrete. In fact its the quikrete brand, same as the concrete.
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