Titanic 4K UHD (1997) - Page 227 - Blu-ray Forum

Count Orlok · 12-13-2023, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bolty

Question....

If the stern had broken off completely, instead of being still attached at the very bottom -- would it have stayed afloat on its own?

Not a chance. The break-up pretty much ruined any chance of the stern becoming its own watertight type lifeboat. There's no way the bulkheads or watertight doors could do anything against keeping out the open ocean.

The air that was still inside the stern caused massive implosions once it went 300 feet or so below the surface. What's crazy is that only took 5 to 10 minutes for the ship to hit the bottom of the ocean.

Count Orlok · 12-13-2023, 04:57 AM

One thing I forgot to mention, and I know this has nothing to do with the 4K release, but I wish everyone (not anyone here) would stop saying Titanic was marketed as 'unsinkable'. White Star never made such claims. That particular topic was brought up by Shipbuilder Magazine due to Titanic's watertight doors and other safety features H&WSL wanted to publicize. Olympic and Britannic were redone after Titanic's sinking. Olympic ended up becoming the final girl out of the class.

Same for the morons that believe the insanely deranged switch and 'fire did it, not an iceberg' conspiracies. They're the ones that probably believe the Earth is flat.

Camellott89 · 12-13-2023, 05:16 AM

Ship is sinking… as I type this. Personally, I’ve enjoyed this transfer. Had the discourse on these forums not been so intense I don’t think I would have been looking for anything, but overall I think this is quite nice.

Riddhi2011 · 12-13-2023, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Orlok

Same for the morons that believe the insanely deranged switch and 'fire did it, not an iceberg' conspiracies. They're the ones that probably believe the Earth is flat.

Research has found that a fire broke out during in the coal bunkers, very close to the spot where the ship struck the iceberg. The fire had weakened parts of the starboard side hull. This is before the ship even left Belfast and was likely an accident during Titanic's construction that got overlooked.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...nic-180961699/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a7504236.html

Count Orlok · 12-13-2023, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

Research has found that a fire broke out during in the coal bunkers, very close to the spot where the ship struck the iceberg. The fire had weakened parts of the starboard side hull. This is before the ship even left Belfast and was likely an accident during Titanic's construction that got overlooked.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...nic-180961699/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a7504236.html

True. There was fire in a cual bunker since the ship left Belfast for Southampton, but it had pretty much no effect during the sinking.

https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.or...oogle_vignette

https://web.archive.org/web/20170202...CE-Article.pdf

Lam Ho Fung · 12-13-2023, 07:20 AM

Hey, does the non US editions 4K include the 20th century studios logo in the opening? Or it’s the 1997 20th Century Fox logo?

Riddhi2011 · 12-13-2023, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Orlok

True. There was fire in a cual bunker since the ship left Belfast for Southampton, but it had pretty much no effect during the sinking.

The research says it weakened the hull at the spot where the iceberg struck. So, it contributed to the hull splitting open so easily. If the hull hadn't been weakened by fire, it may have been possible for the damage to have been less. Maybe a smaller opening that they could have tried to plug or the water would've entered at a slower speed, buying them more time, who knows. This is just me hypothesising.

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Originally Posted by Lam Ho Fung

Hey, does the 4K include the 20th century studios logo in the opening? Or it’s the 1997 20th Century Fox logo?

As far as I know, it includes the Paramount Logo only. I prefer the 20th century logo and that fanfare.

cybersoga · 12-13-2023, 10:49 AM

Aliens sunk Titanic into The Abyss. True Lies.

kc104 · 12-13-2023, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by andreasy969

Had the Scandi release in the mail today. Nice slip, English cover, 3 nice discs and no stacked discs (which I'm sure the US would've had, had it come with 3 discs to begin with).

It shows in your photo of the back of it that the aspect ratio on the Blu-ray includes 1.78:1, 16:9. Is that the open matte presentation?

blakninja · 12-13-2023, 02:40 PM

If anyone for fun wanna compare the color timing and framing of the 35mm vs home media, found a scan from a 35mm print.

[Show spoiler]

mlabonte21 · 12-13-2023, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cybersoga

Aliens sunk Titanic into The Abyss. True Lies.

...that's The Way of Water

blakninja · 12-13-2023, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kc104

It shows in your photo of the back of it that the aspect ratio on the Blu-ray includes 1.78:1, 16:9. Is that the open matte presentation?

Good catch! I'm really curious to know too!

andreasy969 · 12-13-2023, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kc104

It shows in your photo of the back of it that the aspect ratio on the Blu-ray includes 1.78:1, 16:9. Is that the open matte presentation?

No, it's just false information on the back.

LordoftheRings · 12-13-2023, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cybersoga

Aliens sunk Titanic into The Abyss. True Lies.

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Originally Posted by mlabonte21

...that's The Way of Water

He'll be back ... with The Terminator to wipe out the ocean's floor of all those Spawning Piranhas. That's the Deepsea Challenge ...Titanic: Judgement Day.

That could be my next Avatar.

stevenpaulalejandro · 12-13-2023, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cybersoga

Aliens sunk Titanic into The Abyss. True Lies.

I like your Avatar

Riddhi2011 · 12-13-2023, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by blakninja

If anyone for fun wanna compare the color timing and framing of the 35mm vs home media, found a scan from a 35mm print.

[Show spoiler]

Where are these two pics from?

Pieter V · 12-13-2023, 05:49 PM

Paramount US/CA:

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Audio: English / Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 2710 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)

Disney/FOX Rest of the world:

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Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio English 4758 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 4118 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps

Update on US:

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Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MLP FBA AC-3 16-ch
Format/Info : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 131
Duration : 3 h 14 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 4 335 kb/s
Channel(s) : 8 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate : 48,0 kHz
Frame rate : 31,250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossless
Stream size : 891 MiB (1%)
Service kind : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects : 13
Bed channel count : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration : LFE

blakninja · 12-13-2023, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

Where are these two pics from?

I just have them on my PC not sure where I downloaded them.

blakninja · 12-13-2023, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieter V

Paramount US/CA:

Disney/FOX Rest of the world:

Holy cow, only half the bitrates??? What's the difference between Core and Embedded?

Backcover side by side for comparison:

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Damn, should've waited for the UK version to get free 1080p Bluray edition (is it new or old 2012 bluray?)

Riddhi2011 · 12-13-2023, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blakninja

I just have them on my PC not sure where I downloaded them.

Hmm. Must be from 35mm film cells then. I have quite a few of those saved in my PC as well.

12-13-2023, 07:20 AM	#4526
Lam Ho Fung Junior Member Member since:Jan 2016 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:73 DVD collection:41 Digital collection:26 iTunes collection:14 Prime collection:4	Hey, does the non US editions 4K include the 20th century studios logo in the opening? Or it’s the 1997 20th Century Fox logo? Last edited by Lam Ho Fung; 12-13-2023 at 08:29 AM.

12-13-2023, 04:57 AM	#4522
Count Orlok Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Sep 2012 Location:41.7325° N, 49.9469° W Home Theater Gallery:42 4K collection:385 Blu-ray collection:2418 DVD collection:88 MA collection:214 Digital collection:421 iTunes collection:6 Blu-ray reviews: 10 Trading Score:182	One thing I forgot to mention, and I know this has nothing to do with the 4K release, but I wish everyone (not anyone here) would stop saying Titanic was marketed as 'unsinkable'. White Star never made such claims. That particular topic was brought up by Shipbuilder Magazine due to Titanic's watertight doors and other safety features H&WSL wanted to publicize. Olympic and Britannic were redone after Titanic's sinking. Olympic ended up becoming the final girl out of the class. Same for the morons that believe the insanely deranged switch and 'fire did it, not an iceberg' conspiracies. They're the ones that probably believe the Earth is flat.

12-13-2023, 05:16 AM	#4523
Camellott89 Active Member Member since:Feb 2020 4K collection:415 Blu-ray collection:1011 DVD collection:24	Ship is sinking… as I type this. Personally, I’ve enjoyed this transfer. Had the discourse on these forums not been so intense I don’t think I would have been looking for anything, but overall I think this is quite nice.

12-13-2023, 10:49 AM	#4528
cybersoga Senior Member Member since:Jul 2021 Location:UK	Aliens sunk Titanic into The Abyss. True Lies.

12-13-2023, 02:40 PM	#4530
blakninja Expert Member Member since:Nov 2014	If anyone for fun wanna compare the color timing and framing of the 35mm vs home media, found a scan from a 35mm print. [Show spoiler]

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