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Originally Posted by FrankFlynn26
If he handles more Code Red titles like this then I’ll probably stop buying them. Shouldn’t have to jump through hoops to buy a movie.
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Originally Posted by AKNewbie
.... DF couldn't pull it off. When's the last time VS store was offline that wasn't related to their 2 big yearly sales?
EDIT: But a step in the right direction (maturing the business) would be to start taking pre-orders. Most of us are patient for pre-orders and understand valid delays. Yep, more unsolicited business advice...I know.
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The difference between DF's method and VS's method is one of labeling and advertising. DF could have put up a pre-order, sent out word, and then capped it at whatever amount Bill set, even all 1000, with an expected shipping date of a month or even two after it would be ready to ship, so he could beat the clock, as it were. Instead, he just put it up for order.
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Part of the reason so many in my circle love VS is that they ship "early". These are mostly old people and they don't always think things through, anymore. So, they think VS is beating the clock when, in reality, VS are the ones who set the clock in the first place. It's like when Scotty says he needs 20 hours, but gets it done in 20 minutes. If you set the clock, you always come out ahead, if you want to. That's one of the reasons I love VS, they take a page from Scotty and set a clock so far in the future, they beat it even when their mailing is delayed. Genius and I kind of wish every label would do that.
DF just doesn't play around with the clock. He puts up the stock, when he has the stock in hand, not before, and he limits the number he buys in the first place, that number he'll have available on the site, to a number he can reasonably ship in the next week or so. Were Bill not in the hospital, DD would have finished shipping a couple of days ago, within the week he sets himself.
In the end, people who are complaining about this are complaining about a distinction without a difference. You pre-order, it ships in four weeks or you order three weeks later and it ships in one, adds up to a big fat zero on the difference in actual time, but people get upset when they have to order and then wait that week.
If DF is doing his own release, as with LV/FE and MMI, he can certainly consider that kind of model, the one that leaves him looking like a hero. However, when he is selling someone else's merchandise, he is limited to how many they sell him to begin with and, in this case, they are doing around 250 per deal, 200 for stand alone and then some for bundle deals.
The idea about pre-orders is not a bad one, when it comes to DF products. I don't know that, after all these years, Bill would want to do that, most particularly given who happens to be known for doing pre-orders, the kings of pre-orders. I just don't see that happening for CR products.
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Originally Posted by BuickSuper
They can send product or they can take vertical videos of an invalid. Can't do both. I think it's clear where their priorities lie.
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He's visiting Bill and both of them like doing the live feeds, which makes Bill feel better. Going there, which he would do anyway, has nothing to do with his priorities, unless you meant to say that the priority of lifting Bill's spirits over doing a few extra shipments that day is good, in which case I agree. DD should put Bill ahead of the business.
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Originally Posted by Ruined
Drafthouse Releasing, before the guy who started it moved to a new label, had a subscription program called "THE ALLIANCE." It was very simply, pay $150 upfront and get the next 10 releases automatically whenever they might come out. This is different than VS as there is no guesswork in how many releases you get per year or how much you end up paying per release. No matter what you end up paying $15 per release with this model. For a smaller label like Dark Force, something like this or similar (i.e. next 6 releases for $99) would fit better than the way VS does it as there would be no guesswork or tight deadlines involved. Plus it motivates the label, the faster the output the quicker you can collect the next round of subscription fees - assuming the customers like the output.
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I love that idea for Dark Force. It would have to be more like $90 for five and you have to wait for one shipment or 100 for 5 and you get two shipments, though, in order for him to make any money.
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Originally Posted by Yuchira
Apparently, I'm the only one amused by the Dark Force facebook posts. I find the haunted hospital gag to be funny...whatever.. 
Still waiting to buy the product in the meantime...
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You're not. Hundreds watch them live and afterwards, without posting anything, myself included, and some of us watch them in a group, myself included. I don't know why more people don't admit enjoying them, but we are around.
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