Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers (1995)

[GasmaskAvenger]

Hey, the mailman just delivered my French Theatrical Cut blu-ray in the mail, so i'll be making screencap comparisons soon.

...on a side note, I also had the old Director's Edition DVD of Red Dragon being delivered and when the guy dropped Curse of Michael Myers off, I went "I think I was supposed to get a few more things today" and then five minutes later, another mailman delivered the Red Dragon DVD and a couple of letters Informed Delivery said was coming.

A first, if you ask me.

[GasmaskAvenger]

And here are the screencaps as promise.

[Show spoiler]
French BD


US BD (Theatrical Cut)


US BD (Producer's Cut)

[Show spoiler]French BD


US BD (Theatrical Cut)


US BD (Producer's Cut)

[Show spoiler]French BD


US BD (Theatrical Cut)


US BD (Producer's Cut)

[Show spoiler]French BD


US BD (Theatrical Cut)


US BD (Producer's Cut)

To my disappointment, the French BD does not have the same color scheme as the Producer's Cut and is nearly identical to the Theatrical Cut disc in the Scream Factory set...albeit done in a 1.85:1 aspect ratio and with a nominally better compression job. The grain also looks better refined on the French BD too.

So if you already have the Complete Collection box set, you already got a good enough version of the Theatrical Cut, but if you gotta have THE best looking version of the Theatrical Cut possible and is region free, go ahead and import the French disc.

Be warned that the subs cannot be disabled when watching the film in English, though.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

And here are the screencaps as promise.

[Show spoiler]
French BD


US BD (Theatrical Cut)


US BD (Producer's Cut)

[Show spoiler]French BD


US BD (Theatrical Cut)


US BD (Producer's Cut)

[Show spoiler]French BD


US BD (Theatrical Cut)


US BD (Producer's Cut)

[Show spoiler]French BD


US BD (Theatrical Cut)


US BD (Producer's Cut)

To my disappointment, the French BD does not have the same color scheme as the Producer's Cut and is nearly identical to the Theatrical Cut disc in the Scream Factory set...albeit done in a 1.85:1 aspect ratio and with a nominally better compression job. The grain also looks better refined on the French BD too.

So if you already have the Complete Collection box set, you already got a good enough version of the Theatrical Cut, but if you gotta have THE best looking version of the Theatrical Cut possible and is region free, go ahead and import the French disc.

Be warned that the subs cannot be disabled when watching the film in English, though.

Thanks for posting those. That sucks that you can’t disable the subs but cool that it’s in 1.85.

[badfingerboogie]

Speaking of European editions, I just watched my new Austrian edition of Halloween 4 last night - very cool. Dig the reversible covers, too.

[bobbyh64]

Do fans of the theatrical cut of H6 wish that Loomis had survived in the end (no screaming)? Of course it doesn’t matter since that’s the end of that storyline. Just wondering what the fans thought.

[DarknessBDJM]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Do fans of the theatrical cut of H6 wish that Loomis had survived in the end (no screaming)? Of course it doesn’t matter since that’s the end of that storyline. Just wondering what the fans thought.

Since Mr. Pleasence passed after the original shoot of H6 I thought it was a fitting end; especially with the Jack O'Lantern being blown out at the end just before the credits.
Loomis was almost as integral to the series as The Shape and Halloween itself, much more so than Laurie, Jamie, or Tommy. The series hasn't been the same since Mr. Pleasence passed.

[bobbyh64]

Do people who make fan edits of movies usually give themselves onscreen credit?

[seamus11]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Do fans of the theatrical cut of H6 wish that Loomis had survived in the end (no screaming)? Of course it doesn’t matter since that’s the end of that storyline. Just wondering what the fans thought.

Funny you mention this - when I saw it for the first time on VHS, it was a dubbed (Czech) version and there was no Loomis' scream at the end so I was very confused years later when I was reading about Loomis' possible death. I was like "What the hell? What screaming?"

[DaveyJoe]

I didn't realize it was the anniversary. Watching it now(Producer's cut).

[bobbyh64]

Yay! 23 year anniversary! 23 is also the number that was mistakenly listed as Michael Myers’ age in the end credits of the original Halloween.

I completely agree. H6 has great atmosphere and in many scenes feels closer to the original than any of the other sequels.

[Zillamon51]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Do fans of the theatrical cut of H6 wish that Loomis had survived in the end (no screaming)? Of course it doesn’t matter since that’s the end of that storyline. Just wondering what the fans thought.

No. It ended correctly, considering the iconic actor so closely associated with the role passed away IRL.

[Scoot79]

Originally Posted by DaveyJoe

I didn't realize it was the anniversary. Watching it now(Producer's cut).

I watched the Producer's cut (again) earlier today too. I like it so much better than the theatrical cut. Donald Pleasence is barely in the theatrical cut. I understand the ending had to be changed because of Pleasence's death, but all of the rest of Dr. Loomis' footage should have remained in the final film. The director, Joe Chappelle, made a stupid and disrespectful mistake by removing those scenes. The story is expanded and explained so much better in the producer's cut that the theatrical cut feels like it's been hacked to death. However, there are a few things I like about the theatrical cut. I love the

[Show spoiler]hospital slaughter scene

near the end of the film and the music that accompanies it. I also prefer

[Show spoiler]Beth's murder

in the theatrical cut as it is so much more dramatic and satisfying. I wish there was a hybrid cut of the film that offered everything from the producer's cut, but also included things from the theatrical cut like the

[Show spoiler]hospital slaughter scene

and

[Show spoiler]Beth's alternate death.

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Yay! 23 year anniversary! 23 is also the number that was mistakenly listed as Michael Myers’ age in the end credits of the original Halloween.

Yup, and in Halloween II as well. I remember being confused about the credits when I watched Halloween and Halloween II when I was very young. At that time in my life, I had no idea Michael Myers was ever referred to as "The Shape". I assumed Tony Moran played Michael Myers in both films instead of Nick Castle and Dick Warlock.

Instead of listing the credits as:

Michael Myers (age 23)..................Tony Moran
The Shape...................................Nick Castle


It might have made more sense as:

Michael Myers (age 21)..................Nick Castle
Michael Myers (age 21, unmasked)...Tony Moran

For Halloween II, just replace Nick Castle's name with Dick Warlock.

[GeoffOliver]

I watched both cuts back to back, and I think both are equally as flawed for different reasons. The producer’s cut is a better made and edited film until its ridiculous and nonsensical climax and conclusion. The stuff with the voice talking to Danny was also really laughable. The theatrical cut ruined the first 4/5 of the film with choppy editing/pacing and excessive gore, but the climax/ending, while somewhat incomprehensible and stil far from ideal, at least makes more sense to me. I love the chase scene. Also, Brother Cane’s “And Fools Shine On” during the credits is one of my favorite songs of all time.

Ideally, we would’ve gotten Daniel Farrands’ original vision that Moustapha Akkad was interested in. Neither cut reflects that from what Daniel has said. Does anyone know where to find a copy of one of his early drafts (where Jamie lives until the third act)? All one scripts that I can find online are basically drafts of the producer’s cut with different endings.

But this is the first Halloween film that came out in my lifetime (I was almost a year and a half old in Oct 1995), and I guess that’s pretty cool.

[filmbuffTX]

I plan on watching the theatrical and producer’s cuts back to back when I get to part 6. I figure I’ll marathon the whole series before seeing the new film in the theater.

[brian9229]

Very nice, gonna throw in the producers cut. Although, 23rd anniversary certainly makes me feel old. I saw this on release, and am thankful they eventually put out the producers cut. I thinks it's a bit more cohesive than the theatrical. But, damn, I was 20 when I saw this. Where did the years go....

[Dick Deckard]

Halloween 6 always has been, and probably always will be my favorite Halloween movie. The atmosphere, setting, characters, and mood are all perfect for me. It was the first Halloween I ever saw too but on VHS. To this day I've never seen a movie with a better fall atmosphere.

Cheers all Halloween 6 fans!

[johnlennon696]

I lile H6 for the sheer brutality of Myers. That hospital massacre remains one of the best segments in the franchise IMHO.

[gaz2810i]

Wrong thread

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by GeoffOliver

I watched both cuts back to back, and I think both are equally as flawed for different reasons. The producer’s cut is a better made and edited film until its ridiculous and nonsensical climax and conclusion. The stuff with the voice talking to Danny was also really laughable. The theatrical cut ruined the first 4/5 of the film with choppy editing/pacing and excessive gore, but the climax/ending, while somewhat incomprehensible and stil far from ideal, at least makes more sense to me. I love the chase scene. Also, Brother Cane’s “And Fools Shine On” during the credits is one of my favorite songs of all time.

Ideally, we would’ve gotten Daniel Farrands’ original vision that Moustapha Akkad was interested in. Neither cut reflects that from what Daniel has said. Does anyone know where to find a copy of one of his early drafts (where Jamie lives until the third act)? All one scripts that I can find online are basically drafts of the producer’s cut with different endings.

But this is the first Halloween film that came out in my lifetime (I was almost a year and a half old in Oct 1995), and I guess that’s pretty cool.

Yeah, I agree about the ending of both cuts. Supposedly the Producer’s Cut ending is supposed to make more sense since more is explained, but the ending is so WTF and leaves you with more questions than answers. Even if all those questions were answered, I’m sure it would still seem just as ridiculous. At least with the theatrical cut ending there’s a nice chase scene and intensity with Michael massacring the doctors. Even though nothing is really explained, you can still kind of tell what’s going on and it’s not as convoluted as the P-Cut.

To me, the main problem with the theatrical cut is that they kill Jamie early on, which makes Loomis’s presence at the hospital seem pointless. I don’t mind any of the added gore except for Jamie’s death, which is too much. But I like the extra gore with the mechanic’s death and the scene where Michael kills John Strode is shot much better in the theatrical. Even if you don’t like the head exploding, it’s clear that all the shots leading up to it are way more effective than in the P-Cut. In the P-Cut it’s quite obvious that the main actor wasn’t used. To me the problem is that many scenes in the P-Cut just feel lame.

Regarding early drafts of the H6 script, someone asked Daniel Farrands on Facebook if he had a copy of the original script and he said he doesn’t think he still has it, and that Malek Akkad probably has it stored somewhere. I asked Farrands what his original intentions were and he said the cult originally was just supposed to worship Myers and enable him to kill. They weren’t trying to control him and they certainly didn’t give him any curse. He was just pure evil.

[Dick Deckard]

Originally Posted by gaz2810i

Is anyone planning on incorporating the new LG 4KUHD release into this boxset somehow? And if so how?

I currently have this, the UK 2007 and 2013 BD releases and 4K UHD disc on my shelf and I want to try and safe some shelf space without loosing out anything (or having to hunt out a disc from storage etc), if that makes sense...

We're talkin' Halloween 6 brah, not the OG.