Invasion of the Body Snatchers 4K UHD (1978)

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by LeonardH

Viewed on LG OLED CX. Sometimes is grain heavy, but I am sure that is inherent from those years and film. Actually my viewing was spoilt from the comments about green splashing, I kept staring at white scenes looking for these anamolys...bullshit...this remark is for the captures that are not correct

You "spoiled" your viewing on your own self mister. lol

[Brian81]

I guess if Dolby Vision is the problem here, I am really glad those Leone titles will be in SDR!

[gigan72]

Originally Posted by Brian81

I guess if Dolby Vision is the problem here, I am really glad those Leone titles will be in SDR!

Dolby Vision fixes most of the problem, which is the terrible HDR10 encode by Kino. Even still SDR probably won't make a difference if Kino decides there's no problem, those Leone titles could also have some awful compression.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by LeonardH

Viewed on LG OLED CX. Sometimes is grain heavy, but I am sure that is inherent from those years and film. Actually my viewing was spoilt from the comments about green splashing, I kept staring at white scenes looking for these anamolys...bullshit...this remark is for the captures that are not correct

One more time: IF YOU ARE WATCHING IN DOLBY VISION THEN IT WILL CORRECT MOST/ALL OF THE CHROMA ISSUES. Bullshit? No, just being able to comprehend what is being said would be a start.

(All this gnashing of teeth aside, I do wonder why the capsaholic caps don't show the chroma weirdness. Poor compression in the brighter spots, yes, but no dodgy chroma...)

[houseca]

Great, my copy will arrive from Kino on Tuesday.

So looking forward to seeing green blobs all over my screen.

[nin74]

Originally Posted by samlop10

Problem is this disc’s compression isn’t good. Road Warrior on 4K does have a pretty darn good picture. This could have looked great because the restoration does seem, beneath those compression issues, like it was done well, but the codec kind of ruins it.

I have not seen IOTBS yet, so I don't know how bad it is. I was mainly saying that bluray will always have problem with their ancient compression (and resolution & color). A UHD can have some problem and still be the best version (in my eyes) over a bluray.
But off course, if the problem is too big it will be worse than a great bluray (still have Arrows IOTBS).

[KidA]

Forgive my ignorance, but I assumed disc authoring was simply a sort of “set it and forget it” automatic process with authoring software doing all the heavy lifting. How can this process get botched so badly? Is there more of a manual, human element to it?

[dj_intrepid]

I've watched the 4K disc in both HDR and Dolby Vision on different players and different monitors. The image is gorgeous and I nor anyone else who watched it with me saw anything wrong with it. I laugh at the overdramatic ridiculousness of everyone on here railing against this release. You seem to spend more time "analyzing" things rather than just enjoying it. SMH.

[Nocheduro]

Originally Posted by nin74

I have not seen IOTBS yet, so I don't know how bad it is. I was mainly saying that bluray will always have problem with their ancient compression (and resolution & color). A UHD can have some problem and still be the best version (in my eyes) over a bluray.
But off course, if the problem is too big it will be worse than a great bluray (still have Arrows IOTBS).

A blu ray can look fine if the person doing the compression is competent. All things being equal the 4K UHD will be superior but there is no reason either format should look bad due to compression errors.

[slimjean]

Originally Posted by BluProofie

KLI: But the professional reviewers said there were no chroma errors, so they don’t exist!

To my eyes a beautiful as good as it gets Children of the Corn 4K gets downgraded because of grain?

[samlop10]

Originally Posted by KidA

Forgive my ignorance, but I assumed disc authoring was simply a sort of “set it and forget it” automatic process with authoring software doing all the heavy lifting. How can this process get botched so badly? Is there more of a manual, human element to it?

Most definitely. What is interesting is that they might indeed be using a "set it and forget it" method on these particular discs on which we're getting these compression errors. Ideally, a human(s) would be looking at it and setting the right methods to compress it, and making sure it looks good both in HDR10 and Dolby Vision. There are entire companies whose sole job is to author and compress discs (e.g. Fidelity in Motion). Obviously, whosever job was to create the compression for this disc did not do their job well and did a major screwup.

[SpazeBlue]

Originally Posted by dj_intrepid

You seem to spend more time "analyzing" things rather than just enjoying it. SMH.

There it is. Somebody needs to make a Blu-ray.com Bingo. Wonder what the Free Space should be...

[dylrichard02]

Originally Posted by SpazeBlue

There it is. Somebody needs to make a Blu-ray.com Bingo. Wonder what the Free Space should be...

"Cheap Film Stock" is the free space.

[samlop10]

I checked it out for the third time and the green blobs and crappy 'film grain' (if you can even call it that), are still there . Must be nice living in denial and ignorance lol.

Granted, not every single shot has these issues, but you really can't go more than a few shots without noticing either those chroma errors and/or bad grain rendering.

Edit: and I checked it out in both my TV and my computer (both in HDR) to use two types of completely different hardware and different tone mapping and the compression errors show up in both. So...

[biggquis]

This is a really good disc. Not perfect, but really good. There was a time or two I noticed that the picture wasn't fully in focus, and a few times where it looked like a 70s movie on cable. That being said, its the best this film has ever looked in my home, and it wasn't a distraction for me whatsoever.

[CrowKiller]

Originally Posted by Scoot79

That's my dilemma. I paid with a gift card (whenever I preorder something early, I buy a gift card to pay so that the funds are taken immediately - since they don't have Paypal as an option

If you have a PayPal debt card, you can just enter the information on the card like a regular debt card, and it will take it out right away. If you don't have one, you can get one for free.

[Thomas Veil]

Originally Posted by samlop10

I checked it out for the third time and the green blobs and crappy 'film grain' (if you can even call it that), are still there . Must be nice living in denial and ignorance lol.

Granted, not every single shot has these issues, but you really can't go more than a few shots without noticing either those chroma errors and/or bad grain rendering.

Edit: and I checked it out in both my TV and my computer (both in HDR) to use two types of completely different hardware and different tone mapping and the compression errors show up in both. So...

It's not denial nor ignorance, that's just a snobby thing to say. Some people are just more sensitive to seeing things than others. I pop a movie in and get lost in the movie, others pop it in and without even realizing it are more picking up on the image while not really watching the the film. I dont feel ignorant nor in denial, I feel blessed I guess.

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by biggquis

This is a really good disc. Not perfect, but really good. There was a time or two I noticed that the picture wasn't fully in focus, and a few times where it looked like a 70s movie on cable. That being said, its the best this film has ever looked in my home, and it wasn't a distraction for me whatsoever.

Ba Dum TSS!!

[samlop10]

Originally Posted by Thomas Veil

It's not denial nor ignorance, that's just a snobby thing to say. Some people are just more sensitive to seeing things than others. I pop a movie in and get lost in the movie, others pop it in and without even realizing it are more picking up on the image while not really watching the the film. I dont feel ignorant nor in denial, I feel blessed I guess.

I can get lost in the movie if I know I’m watching what I paid for lol. Thankfully I didn’t preorder this and only borrowed it to check it out, but if I had bought it I’d be pissed at the quality while watching it given the price and the fact it’s supposed to be an upgrade. The whole point of the 4K disc format is that you’re getting a film in the highest-available quality for its picture and sound. Not a half-a**ed job like this one. Honestly, the regular blu-ray looks better than this. Maybe not in every shot but at least the film grain and colors are more consistent with less digital errors.

That’s the whole point of this. Why pay for something that’s more expensive when you’re essentially getting inferior quality vs something that is cheaper and overall looks better? Might as well just stick with the regular blu-ray and save money when this happens.

[BerryTheMusicMan]

Glad I use DV , I get pissed when a UHD only has HDR cause DV blows it away everytime .