Reservoir Dogs 4K UHD (1992)

[spanky87]

Originally Posted by wright96d

What on Earth did you use for tone-mapping here? You had me scared there for a second.

Not mine, I just copied and pasted the images from elsewhere to get more thoughts on the remaster. Doesn’t say what was used in the source.

Keitel looks quite red in the first screenshot.

[cheez avenger]

I just watched it and no way was it that dark like those screencaps. I was like if this thing looks as good as it does, the 4K disc will look even better.

I was pleased with the digital 4K/DV presentation and can't wait for the 4K disc!

[Markgway]

This link has a film cell of the White/Pink bathroom conversation and even at a distance you can see it's nowhere near as dark as on that cap.

https://i.etsystatic.com/10600571/r/...78728_cjqh.jpg

[Christian Muth]

Those cells are also probably being backlit for the picture to be taken, and just looking at a piece of film won't look the same as it will look projected on a huge movie screen, either.

Chris

[notops]

Originally Posted by Christian Muth

Those cells are also probably being backlit for the picture to be taken, and just looking at a piece of film won't look the same as it will look projected on a huge movie screen, either.

Chris

Yep, not to mention just how dubious those "cells" look. I might be wrong, but the whole thing looks photoshopped. I did a Google search for "Reservoir Dogs 33mm film cells" and some really funny shit showed up. Looks like there's a market out there for faking film cells. Unbelievable

[DawnShadow]

I’ve just checked it out, although only in HDR, and it looks very good. No issues with the lighting whatsoever, looks exactly how it should to me. I was expecting a lot more grain, but that issue might just be iTunes’ low bitrate.

(The setup I used couldn’t handle DV, the DV definitely is an option)

[Sky_Captain]

People expecting Dogs to be a grainy film, are barking up the wrong tree.

[PonyoBellanote]

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

People expecting Dogs to be a grainy film, are barking up the wrong tree.

Yeah, it's just for me, grain is admitedly a huge kink. But I can deal with it, because there's no DNR or waxy look, there's still a massive amount of detail, so it isn't a product of digital removal.

Also, please let it be known, while HDR to SDR are an aproximation to what you may see in screen, it's not exactly accurate. It's, I repeat, an aproximation. A dedicated panel will show things differently.

I repeat, it's not how I'd like to see a movie or what I'm accostumed for most 4K scans, but it's not a bad one, I'm happy with it, even if it's not what I was accostumed to, it's decently a huge upgrade, and I bet on disc with proper bitrate and disc Dolby Vision, it'll be impressive.

Now, we'll see how Paramount treated Pulp Fiction in December.. hopefully no DNR, hopefully no wax, hopefully no fake grain. Who knows.

[guile]

Since I'm impatient (and absolutely LOVE this movie), I watched the stream last night on a freshly calibrated (this past Saturday) JVC NX7 projecting onto a 110 inch screen.

First off, I've watched the Blu-ray at least a dozen times. Yes, the Blu-ray looks pretty crappy...but I never found it to be "unwatchable". That said, the PQ on this 4-K remaster is STUNNING!

The level of picture detail is astounding and the colors look terrific! It does appear there has been some grain management here but to be honest, the movie looked fantastic to my eyes and truly filmic (that even a word?).

If a bit starved stream looked this good, I can only imagine the disc looking that much better. I am so happy with what they've done here and only hope Pulp (top 5 movie for me) looks this good.

*Darkness

I've seen a few folks talking about the picture looking overly dark. I did a direct comparison between the Blu-ray and the stream. While the Blu is definitely brighter (it looks almost blown out in some scenes) this remaster does NOT look dark...at all...to my eyes.

If I had to sum up the 4-K in one word...it would be FANTASTIC! I think fans of the film are going to be more than pleasantly surprised.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Markgway

This link has a film cell of the White/Pink bathroom conversation and even at a distance you can see it's nowhere near as dark as on that cap.

https://i.etsystatic.com/10600571/r/...78728_cjqh.jpg

Not sure that's entirely legit, as notops said. The optical track on the side of each film cell seems to be identical (that's a honking great red flag) and the images themselves look very very similar to the old HD transfer.

[wright96d]

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

People expecting Dogs to be a grainy film, are barking up the wrong tree.

TIL Reservoir Dogs was shot on a 50 speed stock. Would've expected something much faster for a movie with this low a budget.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by wright96d

TIL Reservoir Dogs was shot on a 50 speed stock. Would've expected something much faster for a movie with this low a budget.

Yeah, a faster stock would've given them more wiggle room when lighting the picture but Andrzej Sekula was adamant they should shoot the whole thing on 50 speed film. As a result it's quite possibly the glossiest, richest Super 35 cinematography I've ever seen.

[PonyoBellanote]

Just fyi, barring some Google Play movies, that one ultra Premium exclusive streaming place, and possibly Sony's Bravia, iTunes is reasonably the highest when it comes to streaming in 4K, always reaching about 25 mb/s. Which is better than most 4K streaming.

[lgans316]

I don't have much idea about this movie but just had a quick glance in iTunes.

First impression is the APL is quite low. This is mainly felt in the outdoor scenes. Not sure if this is how it meant to look or a misstep in HDR grading. DV Bright helps a bit. Because the grading is dark, the dark colours pop nice on the OLED lol. I bet those who prefer brightness might considering watching this in SDR as the highlights anyway look muted. Other aspects look fine. I am not seeing anything waxy despite the lack of grain.


ATV 4K Developer HUD is showing AVBR: 14.93 Mbps PVBR: 24.20 Mbps.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by lgans316

I don't have much idea about this movie but just had a quick glance in iTunes.

First impression is the APL is quite low. This is mainly felt in the outdoor scenes. Not sure if this is how it meant to look or a misstep in HDR grading. DV Bright helps a bit. Because the grading is dark, the dark colours pop nice on the OLED lol. I bet those who prefer brightness might considering watching this in SDR as the highlights anyway look muted. Other aspects look fine. I am not seeing anything waxy despite the lack of grain.


ATV 4K Developer HUD is showing AVBR: 14.93 Mbps PVBR: 24.20 Mbps.

I'm the first to take the piss out of Tarantino for not knowing/not giving a shit about stuff like home video but the APL being as low as it is here, after OUATIH being similarly low in HDR, would not appear to be mere coincidence.

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I'm the first to take the piss out of Tarantino for not knowing/not giving a shit about stuff like home video but the APL being as low as it is here, after OUATIH being similarly low in HDR, would not appear to be mere coincidence.

The APL is noticeably dimmer than OUATIH. Based on my quick glance, I didn't notice any standout specular highlights.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by lgans316

The APL is noticeably dimmer than OUATIH. Based on my quick glance, I didn't notice any standout specular highlights.

You won't find either in OUATIH. That thread has got a ton of grumbles about how dark it is, I expect the same with this.

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

You won't find either in OUATIH. That thread has got a ton of grumbles about how dark it is, I expect the same with this.

Yeah you maybe right to say QT doesn't seem to give AF about HDR.

[PonyoBellanote]

What is APL?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by lgans316

Yeah you maybe right to say QT doesn't seem to give AF about HDR.

Pulp Fiction's UHD would be the clincher, if that's also dim AF then that would confirm it as that's QT approved.