FX's "Sons Of Anarchy" Discussion (2008-2014)

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by Groo The Perverted

Why is no one talking about the "Secret Old Lady"? I was like when her ink was revealed.

What's THAT all about?

Her tattoo has a skull and some wings on the other side but was not a Hell's Angels tattoo and said "Rock n' Roll My Love" seems like she was just a wild youth but outgrew it. She might have been a biker's old lady which is why she is pushing Tara so hard, but there are plenty of middle aged women with full back ink these days, it's pretty common at any classic rock concert or bar.

[jruc03]

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

Her tattoo has a skull and some wings on the other side but was not a Hell's Angels tattoo and said "Rock n' Roll My Love" seems like she was just a wild youth but outgrew it. She might have been a biker's old lady which is why she is pushing Tara so hard, but there are plenty of middle aged women with full back ink these days, it's pretty common at any classic rock concert or bar.

My money is on her being some kind of ex biker old lady thats the only reason why she would help Tara out so much lately.

I'm still trying to figure out how they got through the army checkpoint when they weren't supposed to?

[cool hand bluke]

It wasn't an army checkpoint. It was a Police Service of Northern Ireland checkpoint. They're not know for the sort of heaviness shown so I was thinking there was something wrong before the reveal that they'd been paid off to get them out of the country. Contacting the police in Stranraer would have been better. They'd be in big trouble if they were caught with all those guns. There's still security checks between Northern Ireland and Scotland where the lads would have caught a ferry. Easy to get 'em nicked. But they wouldn't be able to get out of that!

The one problem I'm having is the accents. Paula Malcomson's accent is spot on. But Jimmy's is ludicrous. I was watching a scene with both of them and wondering wtf PM thinks of Jimmy's accent. An equivalent would be Dick Van Dykes cockney accent in Mary Poppins. I mean, that's better, more authentic than Jimmy's accent. It's so bad it distracts from the show. Myself and the gf just end of laughing our heads off at it. Sorry Titus. Some of the others are nearly as bad. Pity.

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by cool hand bluke

It wasn't an army checkpoint. It was a Police Service of Northern Ireland checkpoint. They're not know for the sort of heaviness shown so I was thinking there was something wrong before the reveal that they'd been paid off to get them out of the country. Contacting the police in Stranraer would have been better. They'd be in big trouble if they were caught with all those guns. There's still security checks between Northern Ireland and Scotland where the lads would have caught a ferry. Easy to get 'em nicked. But they wouldn't be able to get out of that!

The one problem I'm having is the accents. Paula Malcomson's accent is spot on. But Jimmy's is ludicrous. I was watching a scene with both of them and wondering wtf PM thinks of Jimmy's accent. An equivalent would be Dick Van Dykes cockney accent in Mary Poppins. I mean, that's better, more authentic than Jimmy's accent. It's so bad it distracts from the show. Myself and the gf just end of laughing our heads off at it. Sorry Titus. Some of the others are nearly as bad. Pity.

I'd hope Paula Malcomson's accent is spot on, she is from Belfast.

I don't mind Jimmy's accent, I am a huge Titus Welliver fan so it probably sways my judgment, not to mention I haven't met very many Irish in Washington state, lol. Who else do you think has a terrible irish accent? I'm pretty sure that Titus and Bellina who plays Fiona are the only ones doing an irish accent who aren't irish.

[cool hand bluke]

Well, Jamie McShane who played Cameron has some sort of irishness to his accent, just not northern!! The guy who plays his son, he's not bad, there are actually parts that sound good. Maybe Cameron moved around a lot when he was a kid and developed that strange accent ( could Jimmy have been the same?) In the current season, the priest, not sure where he's supposed to be from but it's not Northern Ireland. Andy McPhee, Belfast Charter President, has some sort of Irish accent but again not Northern. Zoe Boyle who plays the daughter is good. The guy who plays O'Neill is good. Him and Paula Malcomson and the daughter seem to be the only Northerners in Northern Ireland. Even the police aren't local Maybe everyone thinks it's so peaceful because of the peace process that they're all moving there. LOL
Still, great series. Be interesting to see how this season ends up.
Anyone think Jax was a bit too laid back when the priest said he would hang on to his son for a bit so he'd be safe. He should be very worried if an Irish priest wants to have his son.

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by cool hand bluke

Well, Jamie McShane who played Cameron has some sort of irishness to his accent, just not northern!! The guy who plays his son, he's not bad, there are actually parts that sound good. Maybe Cameron moved around a lot when he was a kid and developed that strange accent ( could Jimmy have been the same?) In the current season, the priest, not sure where he's supposed to be from but it's not Northern Ireland. Andy McPhee, Belfast Charter President, has some sort of Irish accent but again not Northern. Zoe Boyle who plays the daughter is good. The guy who plays O'Neill is good. Him and Paula Malcomson and the daughter seem to be the only Northerners in Northern Ireland. Even the police aren't local Maybe everyone thinks it's so peaceful because of the peace process that they're all moving there. LOL
Still, great series. Be interesting to see how this season ends up.
Anyone think Jax was a bit too laid back when the priest said he would hang on to his son for a bit so he'd be safe. He should be very worried if an Irish priest wants to have his son.

Well to American's we can't locate which part of your country your from based on accent. I work with 3 Brits, and while they all sound different, I have no plans to figure out which part of the country they are each from, lol. It's just an accent, and in this case it's just an accent on a tv show. So it works for me, ok you're irish, good for you.

Jax's attitude towards the priest is one of many alarming and annoying things about this season. They just need to wrap this shit up already and get Abel home. Us massive fans do not wait 10 months a year to get a season like this, I am just at a complete loss.....

[cool hand bluke]

My ma's from Ulster so perhaps I've an advantage. I can do a fairly good northern irish accent which even southerns find fairly convincing. My attempts at cockney accents usually fall flat. Probably give Dick Van Dyke a run for his money.
There again, what do you think of all those foreigners doing American accents: Charlie Hunnam is from Newcastle. Does he sound convincing to you guys. Then you have Paula Malcomson in Deadwood. Sounded good to me.

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by cool hand bluke

My ma's from Ulster so perhaps I've an advantage. I can do a fairly good northern irish accent which even southerns find fairly convincing. My attempts at cockney accents usually fall flat. Probably give Dick Van Dyke a run for his money.
There again, what do you think of all those foreigners doing American accents: Charlie Hunnam is from Newcastle. Does he sound convincing to you guys. Then you have Paula Malcomson in Deadwood. Sounded good to me.

The very first thing I ever saw Charlie in was nearly a decade ago in Undeclared and again a few years later in Green Street Hooligans, so I only ever heard him with his native accent until SOA, it took him awhile but it sounds fine now, he still has the occasional slip. The only person on tv trying to do an American accent who still after 4 years is no good, Yvonne Strahovski from Chuck. She's gorgeous bad damn can you always hear the Aussie coming through, I would have preferred they just kept her with her native accent.

The entire time I watched Deadwood Paula never made me doubt she was American, it was only last year that I read she was from Dublin. Her accent was flawless. I tend to try to ignore the terrible american accents otherwise it detracts from the show for me, like Andrew Lincoln the new lead of the Walking Dead, if I paid attention to how bad his southern accent is, it'd probably ruin the show for me, lol.

[cool hand bluke]

That's what I try to do with sons is not concentrate on the accents.
One thing they've done a great job on is, believe it or not, set design. The interiors of Maureen Ashby's place are just spot on. Someone knows their stuff. Realism like that makes all the difference. Credit to you guys/gals who did that.

[Russ103]

Originally Posted by cool hand bluke

The one problem I'm having is the accents. Paula Malcomson's accent is spot on. But Jimmy's is ludicrous. ... It's so bad it distracts from the show. Myself and the gf just end of laughing our heads off at it. Sorry Titus. Some of the others are nearly as bad. Pity.

Thank goodness I'm not alone on this. Jimmy's accent is cringe-worthy.

He's supposedly a well traveled bloke, so giving him an accent that wasn't so strong, with just a hint of Irish in it would have been more believable - at least more bearable - but something that full-on? It's either flawless, or horrendous - there's no middle ground with such an accent.


Never been a big fan of casting actors in roles requiring accents that are foreign to them. They're rarely done right and can ruin a perfectly good show - and with the talent that's out there in the world, it's just no necessary.

[cool hand bluke]

Then Maureen and Father Ashby have different accents, she's a Belfast one, he has a Dublin one. Seperated at birth. Maybe he was taken to Dublin when he was a kid so he wouldn't grow up into a life.... At one point Jimmy managed at least 3 accents in the one sentence in last weeks episode. Amazing LOL

There's a very good interview with Kurt Sutter on Maureen Ryan's TV blog. Sonny Barger's guesting soon. Maybe he'll sort Jimmy and the Father out

It's here

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by cool hand bluke

There's a very good interview with Kurt Sutter on Maureen Ryan's TV blog. Sonny Barger's guesting soon. Maybe he'll sort Jimmy and the Father out

It's here

Thank you, I had not read that before. Being a big fan of Sonny's from his books and movies, and knowing what a fan he is of the show i kept hoping something like this would eventually happen, just didn't except it to anytime soon. That is epic! Lenny the pimp FTW!

[joe1515]

I thought the last episode was the best of the season and really tied the third season together. I know many people have had some issues with this season, I have not minded the slower episodes.

Joe

[bandit29]

If you have Dish Network they are re-airing the episodes that were missed during the FX black out. Channel 101 and 101HD on Nov 15th, 17th and 19th. My guide has it in two hour blocks iirc. Starts tonight.. I think at 9PM CST..I'm not at home to look..

[WyldeMan45]

My biggest problem is not knowing where it's going. I used to just sit down and enjoy the hell out of the ride each week, in the previous two seasons because I always knew it was going somewhere exiting. However this season I just don't know if it's going to have that same very rewarding payoff. It's not that I mind slower episodes, I'm all for character development and great story, but there just seems to be a lot of screwing around and avoiding the main issues, and almost none of that character development that should come with the slower episodes.

I don't know where the current arcs are headed, who knows it could really pay off in the finale and everything will be forgiven, or it could just remain a cluster ****. For all the drama this season, there hasn't actually been much character development, outside of O'Neil and McGee I couldn't name a single other SAMBEL charter member, but not only that, those two characters where never even developed enough so that when they died it didn't have really any kind of impact. You'd like to think that when a founding member of the club is killed in such an abrupt way, you'd feel something about it, but McGee was pretty much just a big dude, who rarely talked and never amounted to anything, so that was a real waste of a character in my opinion. I'm just hoping that my faith in Sutter will return when I see where all this is headed.

[casablanca3]

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

My biggest problem is not knowing where it's going. I used to just sit down and enjoy the hell out of the ride each week, in the previous two seasons because I always knew it was going somewhere exiting. However this season I just don't know if it's going to have that same very rewarding payoff. It's not that I mind slower episodes, I'm all for character development and great story, but there just seems to be a lot of screwing around and avoiding the main issues, and almost none of that character development that should come with the slower episodes.

I don't know where the current arcs are headed, who knows it could really pay off in the finale and everything will be forgiven, or it could just remain a cluster ****. For all the drama this season, there hasn't actually been much character development, outside of O'Neil and McGee I couldn't name a single other SAMBEL charter member, but not only that, those two characters where never even developed enough so that when they died it didn't have really any kind of impact. You'd like to think that when a founding member of the club is killed in such an abrupt way, you'd feel something about it, but McGee was pretty much just a big dude, who rarely talked and never amounted to anything, so that was a real waste of a character in my opinion. I'm just hoping that my faith in Sutter will return when I see where all this is headed.

Agreed with everything you said. I have liked this season but it has been really frustrating. If the last 3 episodes rock though and make the previous ones better then thats awesome, if not then oh well it was still a good season and i still love the show, it was just an extremely aggravating one haha. I have a feeling this season will play much better on Blu-Ray then it did live.

One thing about the McGee thing you said by not feeling anything, I agree but Ron Pearlman was so great in that scene it made me feel something but that says more to his acting then to Sutter.

Didn't much care for Sutter's interview with MO though. He really can't see the problems and take criticism well, just kept saying the same thing over and over and hasn't got it but I have faith season 4 will rebound. Not every season of every show can be as great as season 2 was.

[WyldeMan45]

Tonight's episode was definitely the best of the season. There was a lot of redemption for the slow pace and aggravating storylines, but during that very long musical segment with Jax

[Show spoiler]watching the new family with Abel, I actually felt that he was making the right choice in letting him go, getting him out of that life, only to have this innocent couple killed because of his actions. People just never seem to be safe around Jax. I am very happy though, that the never ending Abel storyline is finally wrapped.

I was rolling when Gemma

[Show spoiler]took the gun and demanded the baby, I knew exactly what she was gonna do. Obviously we knew she wasn't going to blow the baby in two, but the nuns didn't and that made it all that much better.

So Tara finally has her first

[Show spoiler]confirmed kill. She ganked that gangsta b*tch.

Cannot wait for the next two weeks now, looks like everything is finally going to come to a head and we should start getting some major resolutions going forward.

[WyldeMan45]

I forgot to mention that yet again, we see the homeless woman whom the Petries gave money to was the same homeless woman that has shown up several times back in Charming. I really want to know what her story is!

[JW13]

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

I forgot to mention that yet again, we see the homeless woman whom the Petries gave money to was the same homeless woman that has shown up several times back in Charming. I really want to know what her story is!

i noticed that too... not sure how he she ended up in ireland...

[SPH]

Originally Posted by JW13

i noticed that too... not sure how he she ended up in ireland...

I had the impression she is an "angel" at least from the last time we saw her with gemma at the church