Dark Force Entertainment Discussion Thread

[babybreese]

Inquiring minds want to know....errr, wait, no......they don't.

[El_Fez]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

Whenever I see a wealthy person, I just think to myself, ”There’s another moron who does not collect Blu-rays.”

"When I have money, I buy books. When I have money left over, I buy food."

[dawnofthediscs]

Originally Posted by miribeau

That's fantastic. I got talked down by so many people for admitting I couldn't afford the price hike on some of the VS releases and, worse, knew people who really couldn't and basically just buy the peek dvds and, worst of all, would probably never be able to afford a yearly subscription. Hazing is the word that comes to mind on the incredibly shallow responses received by a few, including guess who.... I'll give you a hint. It wasn't Ruined.

All this discussion of how DD spends his money and shapes his life, as though any of us have a right to judge anyone else for how they like their place to look and what kind of watch they wear. How did this discussion even start? Why is everyone so obsessed with that apartment? It's clean and clutter free, better than any place I've ever lived.

Wait, you couldn’t afford the “price hike” on the VS titles, but haven’t heard you say a word about the pricing on SOAWN. Which is more expensive pos than any VS title...

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

Whenever I see a wealthy person, I just think to myself, ”There’s another moron who does not collect Blu-rays.”

Originally Posted by miribeau

I think "There's someone who hasn't wasted their life on others." Even the Bible tells us to work and take care of our families, and not waste all our labors on charity. Charity is good, but it's not a job that meets the criteria, "getting my business done". If you have obligations, you're supposed to meet them. So, basically, I don't see them as morons.

My post was tongue-in-cheek, of course.

Here’s my own priority list when it comes to my money...

1. Family
2. Health and fitness
3. Career
4. Home
5. Vehicle
6. Entertainment (Blu-rays, etc.)

I cannot spend money on the sixth tier until the higher tiers are taken care of first.

Of course, the “family” tier is easier when one is single.

[Fury Road]

Originally Posted by Dark Force

before that I made seven figures in the movie business, own multiple properties worth several million and have a diamond Rolex probably worth more than your entire net worth.

[mja345]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

My post was tongue-in-cheek, of course.

Here’s my own priority list when it comes to my money...

1. Family
2. Health and fitness
3. Career
4. Home
5. Vehicle
6. Entertainment (Blu-rays, etc.)

I cannot spend money on the sixth tier until the higher tiers are taken care of first.

Of course, the “family” tier is easier when one is single.

Come on, Owl, any sensible person knows that a spending priority list should be...

1. Meth
2. Blu-rays

[indravayu]

Originally Posted by mja345

Come on, Owl, any sensible person knows that a spending priority list should be...

1. Meth
2. Blu-rays

Correction...

1. Hookers
2. Blow
3. Blu-rays
4. Pizza

[AKNewbie]

Once the hype machine pedals all the LE SOAWN, you think they'll announce a standard edition release? Or will they wait for their fleabay proxies to sell through first (before announcing)?

Bill has medical bills to pay; money doesn't glow on trees, you know.

[neo_reloaded]

Originally Posted by AKNewbie

Once the hype machine pedals all the LE SOAWN, you think they'll announce a standard edition release? Or will they wait for their fleabay proxies to sell through first (before announcing)?

Bill has medical bills to pay; money doesn't glow on trees, you know.

There's nothing "LE" about this release except the way they're trying to sell it. No slipcover, no fancy packaging, no booklet, no bonus disc(s), etc. - not that those are needed, but those are what normally distinguish a limited edition. To make a "standard" edition that was missing something that the current version has, they'd have to actually remove disc content, which would involve the expense of authoring a new disc.

And the whole thing is ludicrous anyway. No Code Red discs ever seem to truly sell out - even ones 'out of print' for rights expiration reasons like The Police Connection keep showing up with a few extra copies every now and then. Bill himself constantly complains about how nothing sells out. I don't know what the truth re: Bill's health is so I'm not going to comment on that at all - if he's sick, I wish him the best, and I'll leave it at that. But the Dark Force guy is clearly running the show at this point, has access to the stock, and is playing games.

[AKNewbie]

It was a joke. Sorry that you didn't get it. As you said, this is all ludicrous marketing.

You are correct. As no CR title is ever OOP or limited (LE), they wouldn't have to do anything to call the reprint release a "standard" edition.

Maybe change the cover if they were afraid of criticism from their fleabay sellers. Hopefully, no one is buying this because it is limited.

[neo_reloaded]

Originally Posted by AKNewbie

It was a joke. Sorry that you didn't get it. As you said, this is all ludicrous marketing.

You are correct. As no CR title is ever OOP or limited (LE), they wouldn't have to do anything to call the reprint release a "standard" edition.

Maybe change the cover if they were afraid of criticism from their fleabay sellers. Hopefully, no one is buying this because it is limited.

Oops. Tough to read tone on the net sometimes.

[indravayu]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

There's nothing "LE" about this release except the way they're trying to sell it. No slipcover, no fancy packaging, no booklet, no bonus disc(s), etc. - not that those are needed, but those are what normally distinguish a limited edition. To make a "standard" edition that was missing something that the current version has, they'd have to actually remove disc content, which would involve the expense of authoring a new disc.

With Code Red, standard editions usually mean discs that are distributed to retail outlets by Kino Lorber, with slightly different artwork and often a lower price. I think sometimes extras and/or alternate cuts are removed for the SE.

[AKNewbie]

Originally Posted by indravayu

With Code Red, standard editions usually mean discs that are distributed to retail outlets by Kino Lorber, with slightly different artwork and often a lower price. I think sometimes extras and/or alternate cuts are removed for the SE.

Good point. I was just poking the Demon.
I just can't imagine them walking away from printing more money.

There was some talk about "encore" releases and how it impacted Twilight Time's sales.
I'm sure there are a few here who bought it because it was limited. I'm guessing the greatest disappointment would be from the fleabayers.
But then I don't care if they make 300 copies for their label fans or 10,000 for Amazon.


EDIT: OK, I'm bored - sitting here clicking refresh. I know it shows.

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by AKNewbie

Good point. I was just poking the Demon.
I just can't imagine them walking away from printing more money.

It's less about printing money with this one release and more about making a business that consistently prints money with good selling limited releases IMO

Like the Mondo Tees limited poster model, their posters now sell out in seconds because people are conditioned to know that if they don't buy immediately at full price they will never get a chance to buy it at a normal price. They could make tons of cash doing a new run of some of their more popular posters but they don't want to damage their long term business for short term gain.

There was some talk about "encore" releases and how it impacted Twilight Time's sales.
I'm sure there are a few here who bought it because it was limited. I'm guessing the greatest disappointment would be from the fleabayers.
But then I don't care if they make 300 copies for their label fans or 10,000 for Amazon.


EDIT: OK, I'm bored - sitting here clicking refresh. I know it shows.

I think the twilight time repressings both by twilight time and Sony was very damaging to the price they were able to sell the titles. Twilight time publicly said as much, as for many people it took away from the limited aspect of the title. The other issue is TT presses too many copies for a lot of their movies and ends up having to sell the overstock at cut rate prices, though this may be a compromise they have to make due to their licensing deal.

When it first launched the full price value was retained and they sold fairly quickly because people felt they might never get another chance if they don't buy before it sells out. But once the repressings happened and sales happened because too many copies were pressed many people stopped buying at 29.99 and started waiting for the inevitable 14.99 sale. Prior to that people would say "I'm not paying 29.99" on a forum but then secretly ended up paying 29.99 anyway for fear of missing out. Not anymore.

[Dark Force]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

Or an apartment in a commercial district that looks more like an office that had just been vacated minus a desk, generic Best Buy TV and tacky glass figurines

It's actually a 2 million dollar penthouse condo in West Hollywood with a view all the way to downtown Los Angeles. The generic Best Buy TV you refer too is a 10,000.00 OLED LG best flat screen on the market and there is nothing cheap or tacky in the place. Genius.

[kraven]

Originally Posted by Dark Force

It's actually a 2 million dollar penthouse condo in West Hollywood with a view all the way to downtown Los Angeles. The generic Best Buy TV you refer too is a 10,000.00 OLED LG best flat screen on the market and there is nothing cheap or tacky in the place. Genius.

You got rid of the leopard?

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by Dark Force

It's actually a 2 million dollar penthouse condo in West Hollywood with a view all the way to downtown Los Angeles. The generic Best Buy TV you refer too is a 10,000.00 OLED LG best flat screen on the market and there is nothing cheap or tacky in the place. Genius.

1) You've got a prime Skid Row viewing spot then. My bad.
2) If I spent ten grand on a TV it would need to be bigger than 55"
3) That chair Bill likes to slump in doesn't look too comfortable. Definitely looks cheap

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by Dark Force

Dark Force is a huge success and before that I made seven figures in the movie business, own multiple properties worth several million and have a diamond Rolex probably worth more than your entire net worth.

So..........what happened?

How did you get from living the Ric Flair gimmick to filming a questionably unstable gentleman in a banana costume in your living room with your phone?

[Ruined]

Looks like demon getting ready to open up shop in next few hours per Facebook

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by indravayu

Correction...

1. Hookers
2. Blow
3. Blu-rays
4. Pizza

You ranked pizza last instead of first?

Little by little, day by day, you people in this thread are killing my soul.