Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Happy Birthday, Steedeel!

I'm late to the party and the worse part is that I'm the kinda guest that never knows when to leave. I hope that you a grand time.

I actually spent most of my younger days avoiding parties, despite many folk not getting the hint. Just not my thing, and I struggle with more than my small circle of friends, I’m just not a people person and I hate forced fun.
Didn’t help that in my late teens I was at a party (which I wasn’t enjoying) and someone spiked my drink when I used the restroom. Only utter morons would do something like that.

If I did have a party though, you lot would be invited!

[bhampton]

Your Roku TV may one day show ads when you pause video on your Apple TV
Roku is exploring ways to show consumers ads on its TVs even when they are not using its streaming platform: The company has been looking into injecting ads into the video feeds of third-party devices connected to its TVs

https://www.lowpass.cc/p/roku-hdmi-ad-insertion-patent

Geezums.... there's no end to ads.

I recently watched a Roku TV and when we were watching something the TV said it was also possible to watch the same thing using another service. Even though, you know, we were already watching the thing on the service we purchased it on ... why woudln't we want to explore all the other ways we could watch the same content ?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Your Roku TV may one day show ads when you pause video on your Apple TV
Roku is exploring ways to show consumers ads on its TVs even when they are not using its streaming platform: The company has been looking into injecting ads into the video feeds of third-party devices connected to its TVs

https://www.lowpass.cc/p/roku-hdmi-ad-insertion-patent

Geezums.... there's no end to ads.

I recently watched a Roku TV and when we were watching something the TV said it was also possible to watch the same thing using another service. Even though, you know, we were already watching the thing on the service we purchased it on ... why woudln't we want to explore all the other ways we could watch the same content ?

You beat me to it. This sounds horrific.

[stonesfan129]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Your Roku TV may one day show ads when you pause video on your Apple TV
Roku is exploring ways to show consumers ads on its TVs even when they are not using its streaming platform: The company has been looking into injecting ads into the video feeds of third-party devices connected to its TVs

https://www.lowpass.cc/p/roku-hdmi-ad-insertion-patent

Geezums.... there's no end to ads.

I recently watched a Roku TV and when we were watching something the TV said it was also possible to watch the same thing using another service. Even though, you know, we were already watching the thing on the service we purchased it on ... why woudln't we want to explore all the other ways we could watch the same content ?

[HDTV1080P]

Some commercial movie theaters at theme parks have not only 3D but also other neat things for entertainment like vibrating chair, water squirting during certain scenes, etc.

The BDA should consider adding scent triggers for home scent machines. Then during a certain part of the 4K Blu-ray movie the Blu-ray player could tell the scent machine to send ocean scent or cut grass scent during a lawn mower cutting scene.

This Gamescent company has created a air machine that can put up to 30 scents in the air (up to 30 scents are suppose to be offered by the end of the year). However instead of there being a trigger in the videogame or movie to turn scents on or off, instead the Gamescent air machine that sits in the home theater or gaming room uses some type of microphone that detects audio environment of different environments and will release a scent for that environment. But the ideal air scent machine should have a wired cable over ethernet, RS-232, or USB so that the director of the movie or game developer can trigger what scent they want sent and when, instead of using AI to listen with a microphone.

Quote

“GameScent has developed its own “scent release system” for gamers that utilizes the recent breakthrough of deep learning audio AI to trigger the dispersion of specific scents into the air when appropriate. For instance, when the GameScent system recognizes that the player is in a forest, it will release an appropriate scent, which the company says smells like “ancient pine and earth.”

https://www.svconline.com/proav-toda...our-video-game

[CV19]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

If I did have a party though, you lot would be invited!

Looks like I'm very late to the party yet AGAIN.
Nevertheless, I hope you had a great day doing the things you enjoy the most.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by crutzulee

as most horror fans know, you often have to sift through a lot of junk in order to find a true gem. I guess, much like you lowering your technical standards when watching streaming, one has to grade on a different curve when assessing the narrative merits of a horror movie.. LOL..

agree, but I like horror. I see it like Pizza. Finding amazing pizza (a true gem) is rare but even really bad pizza (junk) is still pretty good.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Well, I am now 49 years old! I raise a digital glass to you all, cheers and all the best!

happy belated Bday

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

Vinyl records outsell CDs for the second year in a row

Originally Posted by kath2833

Both formats, vinyl and cd, increased in revenue in 2023 in the US https://www.riaa.com/wp-content/uplo...Statistics.pdf

I had an uncle, when he bought a car with an 8 track player built in he was sure that was the end of records, when walkmans helped push audio tapes he was even more sure of it, CD, ipod even more so.

I always find it hilarious when people proclaim the end of any physical media that has something more to offer for people who care for that "more"

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Your Roku TV may one day show ads when you pause video on your Apple TV
Roku is exploring ways to show consumers ads on its TVs even when they are not using its streaming platform: The company has been looking into injecting ads into the video feeds of third-party devices connected to its TVs

https://www.lowpass.cc/p/roku-hdmi-ad-insertion-patent

Geezums.... there's no end to ads.

yuck

I recently watched a Roku TV and when we were watching something the TV said it was also possible to watch the same thing using another service. Even though, you know, we were already watching the thing on the service we purchased it on ... why woudln't we want to explore all the other ways we could watch the same content ?

well if the alternative is better quality there might be some value in that

(trying very hard to see upside) but hey the algorithm said it was the type of content you are interested in the other guy is willing to pay to convince you to watch it on theirs.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

Some commercial movie theaters at theme parks have not only 3D but also other neat things for entertainment like vibrating chair, water squirting during certain scenes, etc.

The BDA should consider adding scent triggers for home scent machines. Then during a certain part of the 4K Blu-ray movie the Blu-ray player could tell the scent machine to send ocean scent or cut grass scent during a lawn mower cutting scene.

This Gamescent company has created a air machine that can put up to 30 scents in the air (up to 30 scents are suppose to be offered by the end of the year). However instead of there being a trigger in the videogame or movie to turn scents on or off, instead the Gamescent air machine that sits in the home theater or gaming room uses some type of microphone that detects audio environment of different environments and will release a scent for that environment. But the ideal air scent machine should have a wired cable over ethernet, RS-232, or USB so that the director of the movie or game developer can trigger what scent they want sent and when, instead of using AI to listen with a microphone.

Quote

“GameScent has developed its own “scent release system” for gamers that utilizes the recent breakthrough of deep learning audio AI to trigger the dispersion of specific scents into the air when appropriate. For instance, when the GameScent system recognizes that the player is in a forest, it will release an appropriate scent, which the company says smells like “ancient pine and earth.”

https://www.svconline.com/proav-toda...our-video-game

not for me. movement is cool, but I don't want my HT to smell like a dump or crap because the scene takes place at the dump or an outhouse. Honestly even if it is lavender or baking 9pleasant smells) I would not want that
infestate my HT either.

[bhampton]

3D is hard to sell.

Smell-o-vision is mostly going to be in theme parks for the foreseeable future.

[cheez avenger]

My long overdue Cameron 4K discs should arrive today via the post.

Avatar UCE 4K
Avatar 2 UCE 4K
Aliens 4K
True Lies 4K
The Abyss 4K

This was from the DMC deal that my friend ordered them for me. It's been over a month now, so it did take a while. Demand was super high, so lots of orders have been taking a while to fulfill.

I started watching Sugar on ATV+ and that was great. I will be seeing Monkey Man in Dolby Cinema tomorrow. I am really stoked for S1 of Fallout which should be out Thursday evening via PRIME (all episodes!). I have one episode left to go for The Gentlemen on Netflix.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by CV19

Looks like I'm very late to the party yet AGAIN.
Nevertheless, I hope you had a great day doing the things you enjoy the most.

Originally Posted by Anthony P

happy belated Bday

Thanks guys.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

My long overdue Cameron 4K discs should arrive today via the post.

Avatar UCE 4K
Avatar 2 UCE 4K
Aliens 4K
True Lies 4K
The Abyss 4K

This was from the DMC deal that my friend ordered them for me. It's been over a month now, so it did take a while. Demand was super high, so lots of orders have been taking a while to fulfill.

I started watching Sugar on ATV+ and that was great. I will be seeing Monkey Man in Dolby Cinema tomorrow. I am really stoked for S1 of Fallout which should be out Thursday evening via PRIME (all episodes!). I have one episode left to go for The Gentlemen on Netflix.

Joker 2 trailer out today, looking forward to that.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Smell-o-vision is mostly going to be in theme parks for the foreseeable future.

theme parks are a different story. they might be interesting if done correctly. The issue is for home use, smells can linger and be absorbed in carpets, walls, upholstery...

[crutzulee]

Originally Posted by bhampton

3D is hard to sell.

Smell-o-vision is mostly going to be in theme parks for the foreseeable future.

I vaguely remember a local TV station putting on a smell - o -vision feature when they were on a bit of 3D kick...

You could purchase 3D analglyph glasses at the corner store. One week they included a scratch and sniff card. If memory serves, it was colour coded and a corresponding coloured dot would show up in the corner of the screen.

I can't remember what movie played.. but the whole thing was very "Count Floyd"... RIP Joe Flaherty

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by crutzulee

I vaguely remember a local TV station putting on a smell - o -vision feature when they were on a bit of 3D kick...

You could purchase 3D analglyph glasses at the corner store. One week they included a scratch and sniff card. If memory serves, it was colour coded and a corresponding coloured dot would show up in the corner of the screen.

I don't know if you are remembering the same event (and I'm not sure if the Fox network exists/existed in Canada, or if another network would have had a similar promotion for the same programming), but...

Back in 1994, the Fox network had an event spread across two nights that they called "Fox-O-Rama". I found some old commercials for it on Youtube which I'll will include below. Based on those commercials, this was in early May of that year, so almost exactly 30 years ago.

The first night included an episode of Married With Children in 3D (requiring 3D glasses), and an episode of Living Single in "Aroma Vision", requiring some scratch and sniff cards. They also had episodes of Martin and the short lived George Carlin Show with their own in-show gimmicks, but I don't think either of them actually required the viewer to have/use anything like the glasses or cards.

The second night was the premiere of Revenge of the Nerds IV, which was made for TV, and used both the 3D glasses and it's own set of "Aroma Vision" cards at certain points.

Per the first video that I linked below, the whole thing was sponsored by 7-Eleven. The ad also mentions needed to go to Subway to get the kit with the 3D glasses and scratch and sniff cards. Though I could swear the kit was also available at 7-Eleven, too (which would make sense since they sponsored it).

I remember this well because I actually got the the glasses and the cards. I seem to recall getting my set from 7-Eleven, but again, this is 30 years ago, so maybe I'm mis-remebering that detail.

In addition to seeing the commercials on TV back then and getting the kit, I recorded everything from both nights on a blank VHS tape. I actually did write "Fox-O-Rama" on the label (an exception to my normal habit of not labeling blank tapes and then struggling to find something when I wanted to watch it at a later time), and I slid the 3D glasses and the cards into the cardboard sleeve that the tape came in to save it for future viewing.

I probably haven't watched it since the mid 90s, but I still have a bunch of old blank VHS tapes that I recorded things on which I haven't touched in YEARS, and that is most likely among them with glasses and cards.

Since it is all on one tape, I likely recorded everything in EP/SLP mode, which allows the tape to have a longer running time, but at a lower quality than SP mode (which even the best VHS quality not being great to start with), and with the tape sitting for about 30 years and degrading over time, the quality is likely complete shit at this point. LOL


The embedded Youtube videos are in the spoiler tag below:

[Show spoiler]

Fox-O-Rama - 1994 - Promo Commercial - Part 1 - YouTube

Fox-O-Rama - 1994 - Promo Commercial - Part 2 - YouTube

Fox-O-Rama - 1994 - Promo Commercial - Part 3 - YouTube

[bhampton]

I remember getting 3D glasses at 7 11 for a televised Rolling Stones concert that had a few minutes of 3D.

Taping it seemed to work as it still played back in 3D.

[crutzulee]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

I don't know if you are remembering the same event (and I'm not sure if the Fox network exists/existed in Canada, or if another network would have had a similar promotion for the same programming), but...

Back in 1994, the Fox network had an event spread across two nights that they called "Fox-O-Rama". I found some old commercials for it on Youtube which I'll will include below. Based on those commercials, this was in early May of that year, so almost exactly 30 years ago.

The first night included an episode of Married With Children in 3D (requiring 3D glasses), and an episode of Living Single in "Aroma Vision", requiring some scratch and sniff cards. They also had episodes of Martin and the short lived George Carlin Show with their own in-show gimmicks, but I don't think either of them actually required the viewer to have/use anything like the glasses or cards.

The second night was the premiere of Revenge of the Nerds IV, which was made for TV, and used both the 3D glasses and it's own set of "Aroma Vision" cards at certain points.

Per the first video that I linked below, the whole thing was sponsored by 7-Eleven. The ad also mentions needed to go to Subway to get the kit with the 3D glasses and scratch and sniff cards. Though I could swear the kit was also available at 7-Eleven, too (which would make sense since they sponsored it).

I remember this well because I actually got the the glasses and the cards. I seem to recall getting my set from 7-Eleven, but again, this is 30 years ago, so maybe I'm mis-remebering that detail.

In addition to seeing the commercials on TV back then and getting the kit, I recorded everything from both nights on a blank VHS tape. I actually did write "Fox-O-Rama" on the label (an exception to my normal habit of not labeling blank tapes and then struggling to find something when I wanted to watch it at a later time), and I slid the 3D glasses and the cards into the cardboard sleeve that the tape came in to save it for future viewing.

I probably haven't watched it since the mid 90s, but I still have a bunch of old blank VHS tapes that I recorded things on which I haven't touched in YEARS, and that is most likely among them with glasses and cards.

Since it is all on one tape, I likely recorded everything in EP/SLP mode, which allows the tape to have a longer running time, but at a lower quality than SP mode (which even the best VHS quality not being great to start with), and with the tape sitting for about 30 years and degrading over time, the quality is likely complete shit at this point. LOL


The embedded Youtube videos are in the spoiler tag below:

[Show spoiler]Fox-O-Rama - 1994 - Promo Commercial - Part 1 - YouTube

Fox-O-Rama - 1994 - Promo Commercial - Part 2 - YouTube

Fox-O-Rama - 1994 - Promo Commercial - Part 3 - YouTube

The smell - o- vision event I'm recalling would have been at least a decade earlier on a local Toronto station (CityTV).. I believe the 3D feature was in black and white as many of their 3D features were older SCI-Fi fare from the 50's...If memory serves..LOL..