The Shining 4K UHD (1980) - Page 236 - Blu-ray Forum

Agent Kay · 07-17-2021, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle15

Space Jam 3 scene when

When they make a good one?

KubrickKurasawa · 07-17-2021, 05:59 PM

TLD = When Jack opens the door to 237 he let's out all of the Dark Forces of the Hotel.

History
Many years ago, one of the guests who stayed in Room 217 was Lorraine Massey. An attractive, blonde-haired woman, she was known for seducing young men, usually bellhops, into her room and having sex with them. She eventually committed suicide in the bathtub of her room by slitting her wrists. Her spirit became one of the ghosts trapped in the hotel.

Years later, Jack Torrance was hired on as the winter caretaker of the hotel. He brought with him his wife, Wendy and young son, Danny. Danny was gifted with a psychic power known as "shining". He shared this power with hotel's resident chef, Dick Hallorann. Danny received a psychic impression of Room 217 and asked Hallorann about it. Dick knew the history of the room, but didn't want to frighten Danny, so he sternly warned him to keep clear of all the guest rooms - especially Room 217.

Whenever Danny came near the room however, he could feel the dark forces of the hotel reaching out to him. In one vision, he saw a fire hose that was mounted outside the room disengage itself from its clip and reach out for him like some sort of serpentine monster.

Cherokee Jack · 07-17-2021, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

Only seen the DC and there wasn't a single thing I disliked about it. Not interested in going back to the shorter TC now.

I suspect most people will prefer whichever cut they saw first since differences between the two are negligible. I was blown away by an IMAX Laser showing of the theatrical cut and it remains the definitive version for me. Feel similarly about both Hateful Eight and Midsommar.

Zivouhr · 07-17-2021, 06:29 PM

I have to eventually buy Doctor Sleep, having seen it one time in theaters. It was interesting and I liked that they revisited the Hotel at the end anyway.

The original The Shining is a great, classic horror film. Over the years of watching it many times, it no longer has the fear factor when I first saw it as a tiny kid, but it's still enjoyable to watch.

The music in The Shining is incredible towards building the sense of horror and dread. Doctor Sleep's music was good but not quite as effective.

Great video about the unknown dread of the film, coupled with the incredible music.

Okiephile · 07-17-2021, 06:59 PM

Wow, this is a major upgrade of a classic. Sound track not Atmos but still works. Oh and I love full screen.

Cherokee Jack · 07-17-2021, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zivouhr

I have to eventually buy Doctor Sleep, having seen it one time in theaters. It was interesting and I liked that they revisited the Hotel at the end anyway.

The original The Shining is a great, classic horror film. Over the years of watching it many times, it no longer has the fear factor when I first saw it as a tiny kid, but it's still enjoyable to watch.

The music in The Shining is incredible towards building the sense of horror and dread. Doctor Sleep's music was good but not quite as effective.

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I listened to that Youtube upload of The Shining's soundtrack on a dark & empty hour long drive home after watching Doctor Sleep.

bobbyh64 · 07-17-2021, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Filmmaker

To my knowledge, Danny’s never met Benedict Cumberbatch.

LOL! After I made that post I even thought to myself “Wait, is that the title of the movie? Yeah, yeah it is.” Massive brain fart.

bobbyh64 · 07-17-2021, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dallywhitty

Ngl, I prefer the theatrical cut...

Me too. What’s your reason though? I don’t dislike the DC but after I watched it I thought there wasn’t really anything significant in it that I wish was in the theatrical cut. Just seemed mostly like scene extensions here and there. One thing I do remember is the scene where they kill the baseball kid was much longer and more disturbing.

dallywhitty · 07-17-2021, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Me too. What’s your reason though? I don’t dislike the DC but after I watched it I thought there wasn’t really anything significant in it that I wish was in the theatrical cut. Just seemed mostly like scene extensions here and there. One thing I do remember is the scene where they kill the baseball kid was much longer and more disturbing.

I'm in the same boat as you, pretty much. I liked the subplot about Danny's eyes, but aside from that, I didn't find much of value in the additional scenes. I thought the pacing of the theatrical version was perfect.

Zivouhr · 07-17-2021, 10:06 PM

Any chance there will eventually be a 3rd Shining movie? Without the

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, I'm not sure it would be the same.

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Originally Posted by Cherokee Jack

I listened to that Youtube upload of The Shining's soundtrack on a dark & empty hour long drive home after watching Doctor Sleep.

Awesome way to keep the theme going after seeing that sequel.

What's sad is I can't find a way to buy the full soundtrack anywhere these days. It's been out of print for decades it seems. Thankfully it's on youtube for now.

Drooch · 07-17-2021, 11:34 PM

The ‘theatrical’ is really the truncated European cut that Kubrick made when he got cold feet about box office. The longer American version is his unmolested vision. I prefer it - more Shining is better than less.

Weirdly, I’ve never found The Shining ‘scary’, more an eerie but seductive dive into the subconscious, kinda like a Lynch film.

[Edit: wait, are you talking about Doc Sleep?]

BluProofie · 07-17-2021, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dallywhitty

Ngl, I prefer the theatrical cut...

I like the Director’s Cut a lot, but I think the TC is better in some ways. Better pacing, and that scene where

[Show spoiler]

really should’ve stayed cut. Not sure if I have a preference. I think I like both about the same.

CreasyBear · 07-17-2021, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Drooch

The ‘theatrical’ is really the truncated European cut that Kubrick made when he got cold feet about box office. The longer American version is his unmolested vision. I prefer it - more Shining is better than less.

Weirdly, I’ve never found The Shining ‘scary’, more an eerie but seductive dive into the subconscious, kinda like a Lynch film.

[Edit: wait, are you talking about Doc Sleep?]

The U.S. cut is great for a first viewing, but anymore, I just prefer the pace of the international cut. I think Kubrick knew what he was doing and keeping the film moving was integral to not having the audience zone out, which is more likely with the longer cut. Also, I love that he cut out that stupid bit with the skeletons in the lobby. It's so jarring and out of place and kind of ruins the "is this real or in their heads" the film wrestles with.

Drooch · 07-18-2021, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CreasyBear

The U.S. cut is great for a first viewing, but anymore, I just prefer the pace of the international cut. I think Kubrick knew what he was doing and keeping the film moving was integral to not having the audience zone out, which is more likely with the longer cut. Also, I love that he cut out that stupid bit with the skeletons in the lobby. It's so jarring and out of place and kind of ruins the "is this real or in their heads" the film wrestles with.

The atmosphere is too thick for ‘zoning out’ - the film is beloved by American audiences, and I always assumed the skeletons were as ‘unreal’ as Blowbear and his fellow apparitions.

Zombie Dude · 07-18-2021, 12:15 AM

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"say what" #HannahMontana - YouTube

Literally my reaction to every post from that user.

CreasyBear · 07-18-2021, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Drooch

The atmosphere is too thick for ‘zoning out’ - the film is beloved by American audiences, and I always assumed the skeletons were as ‘unreal’ as Blowbear and his fellow apparitions.

They look like Kubrick made a Spirit Halloween run.

The Shining was not terribly popular upon it's U.S. release, due to the slow pace and relative lack of in your face scares.

Drooch · 07-18-2021, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CreasyBear

They look like Kubrick made a Spirit Halloween run.

The Shining was not terribly popular upon it's U.S. release, due to the slow pace and relative lack of in your face scares.

All of Kubrick’s films struggle on their release because it takes time for general audiences to realise his genius. My point, however, is that the shorter version is no more beloved than the longer American cut.

CreasyBear · 07-18-2021, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Drooch

All of Kubrick’s films struggle on their release because it takes time for general audiences to realise his genius. My point, however, is that the shorter version is no more beloved than the longer American cut.

Did anyone say otherwise?

Drooch · 07-18-2021, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CreasyBear

Did anyone say otherwise?

I took it that you thought the American version was less well regarded.

CreasyBear · 07-18-2021, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Drooch

I took it that you thought the American version was less well regarded.

Upon it's release, it wasn't that popular and didn't do that well in the U.S. That's what I said. Of course it's become a classic, as all Kubrick's have.

I prefer the international cut, personally.

07-17-2021, 06:59 PM	#4705
Okiephile Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2019 Location:Oklahoma Home Theater Gallery:11 4K collection:434 Blu-ray collection:1226 DVD collection:8	Wow, this is a major upgrade of a classic. Sound track not Atmos but still works. Oh and I love full screen. Last edited by Okiephile; 07-17-2021 at 08:48 PM.

07-17-2021, 11:34 PM	#4711
Drooch Banned Member since:Mar 2011	The ‘theatrical’ is really the truncated European cut that Kubrick made when he got cold feet about box office. The longer American version is his unmolested vision. I prefer it - more Shining is better than less. Weirdly, I’ve never found The Shining ‘scary’, more an eerie but seductive dive into the subconscious, kinda like a Lynch film. [Edit: wait, are you talking about Doc Sleep?] Last edited by Drooch; 07-17-2021 at 11:54 PM.

07-17-2021, 05:59 PM	#4702
KubrickKurasawa Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2014 Location:Midwest 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:612 DVD collection:129 Digital collection:70 iTunes collection:92 Prime collection:9	TLD = When Jack opens the door to 237 he let's out all of the Dark Forces of the Hotel. History Many years ago, one of the guests who stayed in Room 217 was Lorraine Massey. An attractive, blonde-haired woman, she was known for seducing young men, usually bellhops, into her room and having sex with them. She eventually committed suicide in the bathtub of her room by slitting her wrists. Her spirit became one of the ghosts trapped in the hotel. Years later, Jack Torrance was hired on as the winter caretaker of the hotel. He brought with him his wife, Wendy and young son, Danny. Danny was gifted with a psychic power known as "shining". He shared this power with hotel's resident chef, Dick Hallorann. Danny received a psychic impression of Room 217 and asked Hallorann about it. Dick knew the history of the room, but didn't want to frighten Danny, so he sternly warned him to keep clear of all the guest rooms - especially Room 217. Whenever Danny came near the room however, he could feel the dark forces of the hotel reaching out to him. In one vision, he saw a fire hose that was mounted outside the room disengage itself from its clip and reach out for him like some sort of serpentine monster.

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