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Old 09-30-2010, 03:08 PM   #461
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when everybody drafted the first time, did you draft offense or defense first?

where did cb's like Revis and Asomougha go?
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Old 09-30-2010, 03:16 PM   #462
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when everybody drafted the first time, did you draft offense or defense first?

where did cb's like Revis and Asomougha go?
They'd probably go early because if people didn't pick them up, they are very high on the CPU priority list
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Old 09-30-2010, 03:22 PM   #463
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They'd probably go early because if people didn't pick them up, they are very high on the CPU priority list
Yeah I didnt even think about the CPU, thanks.
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Old 09-30-2010, 04:49 PM   #464
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Question - I don't get why we can't manually control D-linemen dropping back.

1) what if that's what the play dictates? I can cover the flat better than the CPU and react to screens better.

2) Is there some sort of glitch involved in D-linemen coverage? They're slow and they just act as an extra defender. I don't see the problem with that.
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Old 09-30-2010, 04:58 PM   #465
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Question - I don't get why we can't manually control D-linemen dropping back.

1) what if that's what the play dictates? I can cover the flat better than the CPU and react to screens better.

2) Is there some sort of glitch involved in D-linemen coverage? They're slow and they just act as an extra defender. I don't see the problem with that.
I'd imagine its because you can also adjust them to nano blitz, slide so far out the OL ignore them, etc.. Its easier to just say, move them as a whole or not at all and then no debate later.
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Old 09-30-2010, 05:05 PM   #466
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I'd imagine its because you can also adjust them to nano blitz, slide so far out the OL ignore them, etc.. Its easier to just say, move them as a whole or not at all and then no debate later.
but, what if you don't move them pre-snap? Is that allowed? HB screens are tough to defend against as it is.

Plus, I think the rule was no manually controlling d-linemen dropping into coverage. I don't think that has to do with nano-blitzing at all.
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Old 09-30-2010, 05:09 PM   #467
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but, what if you don't move them pre-snap? Is that allowed? HB screens are tough to defend against as it is.

Plus, I think the rule was no manually controlling d-linemen dropping into coverage. I don't think that has to do with nano-blitzing at all.
I think they mean presnap, dropping them back. Usually rules say no manual presnap move of any D lineman.
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Old 09-30-2010, 05:12 PM   #468
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I think they mean presnap, dropping them back. Usually rules say no manual presnap move of any D lineman.
oh, then that's totally fine with me!
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Old 09-30-2010, 07:39 PM   #469
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Holly, I advertised this league on the autograph site I moderate. A member there wants to join and can be at the draft. I directed him here and to contact you.
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Old 09-30-2010, 07:42 PM   #470
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pm sent to commish. Hope you guys have a spot open. Thanks for the opportunity.

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Team = whatever is available. Jets would be nice but being a fantasy draft its only a team name. thanks.

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Old 09-30-2010, 07:46 PM   #471
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oh, then that's totally fine with me!
Its not only pre-snap. The rule is put in place to stop the people that run a zone with 3 down linemen thats are supposed to rush and literally take one of them out and run around with them in coverage. If your lineman r in coverage, u are supposed to allow the cpu to do it b/c people will never know whether some one is cheesing or not. But u need to check with Holly. I know this is how it is in every sim league I have played in!!
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Old 09-30-2010, 07:51 PM   #472
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HollyPopDid, in the interest of time, is there any chance we could shorten quarters to 8 min? I feel like we could still get realistic (if not bloated stats) from 8 min quarters. I mean, I'm getting close to 500 yd passing in MaCruz's league with 8 min quarters.
I'm actually pretty sure we're at 8 minute quarters as we stand. I was thinking of shortening it to 7 minute quarters, actually, because 8 is pretty damn long for some reason. "Quicker" was one of the three things Madden was advertising for the game, right? Half the time it took last year to play this year's game? What the Hell happened to that?

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the long version of the story:

I have recently moved into a new house with a sweet basement. My PS3 is down there. Last Wednesday night (after the draft as a matter of fact) I broke my damn ankle and tore a ligament from the bone. There is no railing to the basement, so I can't easily get down there, lol. I am also leaving for a trip tomorrow.

The short version:

I hope to get signed up, and the computer may draft for me and I am fine with that. And I will be out of town until Tuesday.
Does that mean you won't make it tonight for the Draft?

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on a side note, is it possible to have more than one team in the same online franchise with the same psn? My brother in law wants to have us draft multiple teams in a league with his buddies. is that even possible?
No, it's not. Offline you're able to but not online.

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when everybody drafted the first time, did you draft offense or defense first?

where did cb's like Revis and Asomougha go?
I drafted a Receiver first because there was no Defensive players worthy of a first rounder available. I then went pretty much all Defense until my Offensive players that I wanted were available. I'm thinking about changing that strategy, though.

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Question - I don't get why we can't manually control D-linemen dropping back.
It's pretty hard to explain; nano blitzing is part of the reason but not entirely. Online people use D-Linemen to drop into coverage and have (if it's a 4-3) the other 3 Linemen go after the Quarterback. Using one guy into coverage when it's not what the play you chose dictates is considered glitching the system. Like I said, I don't know how to explain it. Asking pillBOXhat would be a better thing to do because he knows all about the rules.

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Holly, I advertised this league on the autograph site I moderate. A member there wants to join and can be at the draft. I directed him here and to contact you.
Sweet, man. Thanks a lot. I've got a LOT of people PMing me about the franchise and I'm trying to get all situated and update everyone on the Owners List, Draft Order, etc. Thanks again.

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pm sent to commish. Hope you guys have a spot open. Thanks for the opportunity.

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Old 09-30-2010, 08:04 PM   #473
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Holly, I advertised this league on the autograph site I moderate. A member there wants to join and can be at the draft. I directed him here and to contact you.

hopefully they all know that this is a SIM league!!
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Old 09-30-2010, 08:06 PM   #474
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I'm actually pretty sure we're at 8 minute quarters as we stand. I was thinking of shortening it to 7 minute quarters, actually, because 8 is pretty damn long for some reason. "Quicker" was one of the three things Madden was advertising for the game, right? Half the time it took last year to play this year's game? What the Hell happened to that?
Awesome!
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Old 09-30-2010, 08:07 PM   #475
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Its not only pre-snap. The rule is put in place to stop the people that run a zone with 3 down linemen thats are supposed to rush and literally take one of them out and run around with them in coverage. If your lineman r in coverage, u are supposed to allow the cpu to do it b/c people will never know whether some one is cheesing or not. But u need to check with Holly. I know this is how it is in every sim league I have played in!!


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hopefully they all know that this is a SIM league!!
Yeah, I'm making sure all the new members know all the new rules, trading/free agent situations, etc. etc. I'm not going easy this time around and this is the Draft we're sticking with.
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Old 09-30-2010, 08:10 PM   #476
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It's pretty hard to explain; nano blitzing is part of the reason but not entirely. Online people use D-Linemen to drop into coverage and have (if it's a 4-3) the other 3 Linemen go after the Quarterback. Using one guy into coverage when it's not what the play you chose dictates is considered glitching the system. Like I said, I don't know how to explain it. Asking pillBOXhat would be a better thing to do because he knows all about the rules.
I don't have too big of a problem with this, but I have done it on occasion (never ever to nano-blitz. I hate that) and really don't see the issue. If you want to create an impromptu 2 man rush, why shouldn't you be allowed to do it? Also, linemen are slow. I do it because people tend to a) screen quite a bit or b) throw to the TE over the middle and that play in specific requires extra coverage (notice how TEs lead most franchise leagues in receptions and oftentimes yardage).

@jtconnolly - is taking a slow lineman to play additional coverage considered "cheesing". I'm a big proponent of anti-cheesing, but never realized this was considered cheesing (e.g., using the same play over and over, using overpowered plays, exploiting A.I. deficiencies). I mean if this is cheesing, then manually blitzing off the edge with a safety or CB should be considered cheesing (much more so).

Again, I won't argue too hard against the rules as they are generally solid. I just saw this as a point of contention for me (especially since I'm not pulling linemen to nano-blitz).

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Old 09-30-2010, 08:22 PM   #477
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the thing is: u may not do the Nano Blitzing but some one else might, which is why its better just to have a rule in place. You can put lineman in coverage if you feel you need the coverage in the middle for the TE, u can hot route your D-lineman. You just can't control your D-lineman in that coverage. We all deal with the idiocy of the cpu controlled zones so I can understand ur frustration with some zone packages, its just something we got to deal with.

As for Screens, if you think a screen is coming, you can control your DE, and cover the back if he is going for a screen, if he is not you must rush the QB. You just can't run around with him all over the field. Not SIM.

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Old 09-30-2010, 08:36 PM   #478
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the thing is: u may not do the Nano Blitzing but some one else might, which is why its better just to have a rule in place. You can put lineman in coverage if you feel you need the coverage in the middle for the TE, u can hot route your D-lineman. You just can't control your D-lineman in that coverage. We all deal with the idiocy of the cpu controlled zones so I can understand ur frustration with some zone packages, its just something we got to deal with.

As for Screens, if you think a screen is coming, you can control your DE, and cover the back if he is going for a screen, if he is not you must rush the QB. You just can't run around with him all over the field. Not SIM.
yep, I'll abide by it (but I don't have to like/agree with it!). Will be fun either way. I just hate being exposed to plays (TE post, TE in) that I know I can stop most times with manual d-lineman control.
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