2025-2026 College Football Thread

[gvortex7]

Go Canes!!!!!!


Nice win tonight.

[STARSCREAM]

I still think OU is gonna lose to Miami.

[gvortex7]

Originally Posted by STARSCREAM

I still think OU is gonna lose to Miami.

Especially if Bradford doesn't return for them.

[hookem2845]

Either way OU is not the same from last year, the line is inexperienced and recievers are gone...although i am quite bias GO 'HORNS

[gvortex7]

Originally Posted by hookem2845

Either way OU is not the same from last year, the line is inexperienced and recievers are gone...although i am quite bias GO 'HORNS

Go Ttech.

[broganreynik]

Originally Posted by Teufel Hunden

The original argument was that polls should be eliminated and the top 12 teams just play.

There is no way to close a field of 120 to 16, 12, 8, 4 or 2 without polls.

Bottom line, and why I have been shooting hols through the stupid idea all along, is that polls are necessary, or you need 128 teams in 16 eight team conferences (every team plays a home and home, and then the best record goes to the playoffs). Start to finish -with a bye between the regular season and playoffs- there would be a 19 week season.

Polls aint going anywhere.

And let's hear your brilliant plan that absolutely noone can find a thing to complain about.

[supersix4]

I just don't know how anyone couldn't look at the final 12/16 teams in the last BCS poll and say meh much better then having 20+ teams complain they didn't get in.

Week 15 poll BCS

Okla
Florida
Texas
Bama
USC
Utah
TT
Penn S
Boise S
OSU
TCU
Cinci
OKSU
Gtech
UGA
BYU

Having those teams go at it not better then letting the CC game determine who finishes where. And it would be a great ride March Maddnessesq seeing the top 16 go at it every year. Granted if you kept the Opening polls some teams could play easy and win a spot, but if you looked at the whole year and have a selection day, while some(maybe 5 at most) might get left out we wouldn't have the crapshoot that is the BCS.

Do it like CB work your way up 1st team gets the 16th team and so on

[Teufel Hunden]

Originally Posted by broganreynik

And let's hear your brilliant plan that absolutely noone can find a thing to complain about.

First off, ANYTHING is better than a 12 team playoff.

How about 32, 16, 8 or 4 team playoff for starters.

Or a 18 team playoff, with 4 wild cards and 14 of the "best teams"

Anything but a ridiculous 12 team playoff. Dont be myopic. Think about it for a second, pretend it was not your idea, and come to your own conclusion. Of all the ideas for a playoff I have heard, 12 teams is absolutely ridiculous.


The only way to get a playoff without a poll and have it happen in the needed time frame, and be unequivocally "fair" is to break up conference and rivalry affiliations, create 16 eight team divisions (they would have to add 8 teams to D1A), have each team play every team twice (road and home), the 16 division champions go to a 16 team playoff. 19 or 20 weeks (depending on how you handle potential ties and a bye week between the season and post season) from labor day to the first or second Saturday in January.

If you have a system where points scored matters then you would eliminate almost all divisional ties, and end up with a season that starts at the same time as it does now, and ends on New Years Day with the championship game.

You could schedule the playoffs in advance, where the bowls would host the first games, Say the Toilet, Sun, Gator, Citrus, Liberty, Peach, Holiday, Independence would host the first round.

Sugar, Fiesta, Orange and Cotton bowls would host the second round

Rose Bowl would host the Championship (because college football tradition would demand it).

That is 13 bowl affiliations just for the playoff. Then you could have a traditional bowl series for the teams that are .600 or better (up from .500 because that is ridiculous too)

[Teufel Hunden]

My exapmle above would make the regular season exceedingly boring, but without polls, there is not a much better way to keep the season length intact and be "fair."

Of course, if you forget about the anti-poll bias that every sport, save the very small number of team sports (ie NFL) have then we can do better and not screw up the excitement and fun of college football.


Personally, I dont see how a playoff would help me enjoy the sport at all.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Teufel Hunden

First off, ANYTHING is better than a 12 team playoff.

How about 32, 16, 8 or 4 team playoff for starters.

Or a 18 team playoff, with 4 wild cards and 14 of the "best teams"

I agree that more teams would be better, but for me I'd take 12 instead of none. My feeling is, thats 10 more teams then the current system, Right now if you lose late in the year(Bama last year CC game) your done, your whole season a waste(I know, I know you lost blah blah blah if you'd won it wouldn't have happened). I would love 32 or 16, then almost everyone in the big conferences will get 2+ teams in.

For me its about the match ups during the year that make it fun, UGA/ GTech, Mich/OSU (when the games are close) I don't think those would change just because there weren't any polls. I do agree a division would screw it up because then you'd lose some great games.

I just think teams would try much harder if they knew they had to win 4+ games straight and win a national championship(not to mention if you had to play a 4+ game playoff stretch of Texas, OKla, UGA, Bama exc.) rather then work real hard lose the conference championship and get the fiesta bowl.

[fatediesel]

Originally Posted by gvortex7

Go Canes!!!!!!


Nice win tonight.

It was a good win for Miami. I wasn't sold on Georgia Tech to begin with and am not sure yet how good Miami is. I guess we'll see if they are truly contenders over the next 2 weeks when they play Virginia Tech and Oklahoma. I like the death stare Randy Shannon gave the kicker when he missed the field goal that would have made it a 3 possession game with around 3 minutes left.

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by Teufel Hunden

My exapmle above would make the regular season exceedingly boring, but without polls, there is not a much better way to keep the season length intact and be "fair."

Of course, if you forget about the anti-poll bias that every sport, save the very small number of team sports (ie NFL) have then we can do better and not screw up the excitement and fun of college football.


Personally, I dont see how a playoff would help me enjoy the sport at all.

I think the way to do it would be to keep the BCS polls, and determine the playoff field from that (whether it's 4, 8, 16, etc. teams).

That way, the regular season obviously matters. Your out-of-conference games matter.

There's a number of ways to do it, but there's no "perfect" scenario. But there's unquestionably a better one than the one we have now.

[broganreynik]

Originally Posted by Teufel Hunden

First off, ANYTHING is better than a 12 team playoff.

How about 32, 16, 8 or 4 team playoff for starters.

Or a 18 team playoff, with 4 wild cards and 14 of the "best teams"

Anything but a ridiculous 12 team playoff. Dont be myopic. Think about it for a second, pretend it was not your idea, and come to your own conclusion. Of all the ideas for a playoff I have heard, 12 teams is absolutely ridiculous.


The only way to get a playoff without a poll and have it happen in the needed time frame, and be unequivocally "fair" is to break up conference and rivalry affiliations, create 16 eight team divisions (they would have to add 8 teams to D1A), have each team play every team twice (road and home), the 16 division champions go to a 16 team playoff. 19 or 20 weeks (depending on how you handle potential ties and a bye week between the season and post season) from labor day to the first or second Saturday in January.

If you have a system where points scored matters then you would eliminate almost all divisional ties, and end up with a season that starts at the same time as it does now, and ends on New Years Day with the championship game.

You could schedule the playoffs in advance, where the bowls would host the first games, Say the Toilet, Sun, Gator, Citrus, Liberty, Peach, Holiday, Independence would host the first round.

Sugar, Fiesta, Orange and Cotton bowls would host the second round

Rose Bowl would host the Championship (because college football tradition would demand it).

That is 13 bowl affiliations just for the playoff. Then you could have a traditional bowl series for the teams that are .600 or better (up from .500 because that is ridiculous too)

Like I had just said, the 12 team playoff wasn't my idea. I was just saying if they did that would be the way to go. I would prefer an 8 team playoff. At any rate, why bicker about stuff that isn't going to happen. Let's get back to the action.

[fatediesel]

Big break for Iowa this weekend as Arizona star tight end Rob Gronowski won't be playing tomorrow. This is a big game for both the Pac 10 and Big 10. Both leagues are looking for respect and out of conference wins versus quality BCS opponents go a long way. I've watched both of Iowa's first game and they haven't looked great, even in a 35-3 thrashing of Iowa State. Their running game looked much better last week with true freshmen Brandon Wegher getting over 100 yards.

[Boston Litigator]

Originally Posted by gvortex7

Go Canes!!!!!!


Nice win tonight.

+1

[rebfandan]

Originally Posted by supersix4

I just think teams would try much harder if they knew they had to win 4+ games straight and win a national championship(not to mention if you had to play a 4+ game playoff stretch of Texas, OKla, UGA, Bama exc.) rather then work real hard lose the conference championship and get the fiesta bowl.

Surely you aren't suggesting that a team should play in the NC game even if they can't win their own conference. I'll admit it is possible. Just look at the '04 Oklahoma team that lost the Big XII conference championship to Kansas State and then managed to get into the NC game ahead of a 13-0 Auburn, only to get thrashed by USC. But often what is possible should not be possible. In no way does a team deserve to play for the NC if they can't win their own conference. Never.

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by rebfandan

Surely you aren't suggesting that a team should play in the NC game even if they can't win their own conference. I'll admit it is possible. Just look at the '04 Oklahoma team that lost the Big XII conference championship to Kansas State and then managed to get into the NC game ahead of a 13-0 Auburn, only to get thrashed by USC. But often what is possible should not be possible. In no way does a team deserve to play for the NC if they can't win their own conference. Never.

Under the present scenario, I agree.

In a playoff scenario, I couldn't disagree more.

[rebfandan]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

Under the present scenario, I agree.

In a playoff scenario, I couldn't disagree more.

If you mean a team that didn't win their conference getting a "wildcard" spot in a playoff, then I can see how you'd disagree, and I would agree that that scenario could work. But only in a playoff. So I guess that means I may have to re-examine my previous declaration.

I'd like to know what you had in mind if you'd like to share.

[The Big Blue]

Why should a team have to win their conference? Not all conferences have a title game so who gives a rip?

The fact is that the present system is a massive charlie foxtrot and an embarassment to humanity.

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by rebfandan

If you mean a team that didn't win their conference getting a "wildcard" spot in a playoff, then I can see how you'd disagree, and I would agree that that scenario could work. But only in a playoff. So I guess that means I may have to re-examine my previous declaration.

I'd like to know what you had in mind if you'd like to share.

I tried to do it earlier, but I'm not sure how clear I was.

I haven't given it a lot of thought, but I think the way to do it is to take the top 8-16 teams from the BCS, and do a playoff from there.

If you lose your conference but still ended up 11-1, defeating a bunch of good opponents, you might still earn a spot in the BCS polls.

If you win the Big East with an 8-4 record and lost to 3 miserable OOC opponents, you might not earn a spot.

Yes, you could theoretically end up with 2 Big 10 teams, 2 SEC teams, 2 Big 12 teams, and 2 Pac 10 teams, or some other mixture, but what can you do.

That's my 2-minute, 2 cents.