Invasion of the Body Snatchers 4K UHD (1978)

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by BerryTheMusicMan

Glad I use DV , I get pissed when a UHD only has HDR cause DV blows it away everytime .

Only for discs made by incompetent studios that can't properly encode...

The standard is HDR10 in the UHD BD spec, DV is optional so what Kino did is inexcusable

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

Only for discs made by incompetent studios that can't properly encode...

The standard is HDR10 in the UHD BD spec, DV is optional so what Kino did is inexcusable

Indeed. There's absolutely no excuse for HDR10 presentations to have issues like we're seeing here and on some other releases. If HDR10 is done properly, it should produce an outstanding HDR presentation.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by dj_intrepid

I've watched the 4K disc in both HDR and Dolby Vision on different players and different monitors. The image is gorgeous and I nor anyone else who watched it with me saw anything wrong with it. I laugh at the overdramatic ridiculousness of everyone on here railing against this release. You seem to spend more time "analyzing" things rather than just enjoying it. SMH.

Obviously some people are content with whatever they are given, and not everyone will notice these issues. There are some that expect better from this format, because we know it can be better. If you want to give this a pass, fine, but don't mock others for not willing to do so.

I've bought this film several times before on both DVD and blu-ray. I own the Arrow and Shout blu-rays already. So the point of this is it's supposed to be an upgrade. Yet it has issues that neither of my other blu-rays have.

[Surge92]

Does anyone know if Best Buy is going to be stocking this? It doesn't show as available anywhere near me.

[Funcha]

Originally Posted by KidA

Forgive my ignorance, but I assumed disc authoring was simply a sort of “set it and forget it” automatic process with authoring software doing all the heavy lifting. How can this process get botched so badly? Is there more of a manual, human element to it?

That’s actually where I think the problems are coming in. Labels doing “auto-encodes” for BD-100s assuming that there will be enough bitrate for everything without needing to make manual fine tuning adjustments. And then, for whatever reason, the encoders occasionally shit the bed. The blocky segments of Total Recall are a perfect example of this. Sure, the Dolby Vision encode can be perfectly fine. But realistically, both the HDR-10 and Dolby encodes need to both be properly QC’d.

[andantelise]

What 4Ks have shoddy HDR10 encodes?

[nin74]

Originally Posted by Nocheduro

A blu ray can look fine if the person doing the compression is competent. All things being equal the 4K UHD will be superior but there is no reason either format should look bad due to compression errors.

Bluray will never be better than the codec, color range and resolution allow is to be. That is all I'm saying.

[iamnoone]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

It's new.

BLU-RAY DISC 2
Newly Restored UHD SDR Master – Approved & Color Graded by Director Philip Kaufman
Audio Commentary by Director Philip Kaufman
Audio Commentary by Author/Film Historian Steve Haberman
Star-Crossed in the Invasion: Interview with Actress Brooke Adams (9:06)
Re-Creating the Invasion: Interview with Screenwriter W.D. Richter (15:43)
Scoring the Invasion: Interview with Composer Denny Zeitlin (15:34)
Leading the Invasion: Interview with actor Art Hindle (25:04)
Writing the Pod: Interview with Jack Finney Expert Jack Seabrook (11:14)
Re-Visitors from Outer Space, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Pod - Featurette (16:14)
Practical Magic: The Special Effects Pod - Featurette (4:38)
The Man Behind the Scream: The Sound Effects Pod - Featurette (12:47)
The Invasion Will Be Televised: The Cinematography Pod - Featurette (5:24)
TV Spots
Radio Spots
Theatrical Trailer
Reversible Art
5.1 Surround & Lossless 2.0 Audio
Optional English Subtitles
Dual-Layered BD50 Disc

So the Blu-Ray is a new transfer, but does it also suffer from the same issues the 4K disc does? In other words, should I have held onto the Scream Blu? I still have the really old MGM Blu. TIA.

[Christian Muth]

Originally Posted by andantelise

What 4Ks have shoddy HDR10 encodes?

Studio Canal's THE FOG and THE DEER HUNTER both come to mind. Both have some pretty horrific issues when played in HDR-10 that are cleaned up considerably when played back in Dolby Vision.

Chris

[samlop10]

Originally Posted by andantelise

What 4Ks have shoddy HDR10 encodes?

Originally Posted by Christian Muth

Studio Canal's THE FOG and THE DEER HUNTER both come to mind. Both have some pretty horrific issues when played in HDR-10 that are cleaned up considerably when played back in Dolby Vision.

Chris

Some of these don’t even have DV but the HDR10 encode is still bad:

All the Halloween 4K’s by Shout too, their They Live, Prince of Darkness and Weathering With You 4K’s are encoded in the wrong colors as well (something not even DV can alleviate), a bunch of other Studio Canal releases as well actually, like Total Recall, the first 3 Rambo’s, Le Cercle Rouge, Escape From New York. Lionsgate also used exact ports of some of Studio Canal’s discs so they have the same issues (such as Total Recall). Saving Private Ryan is another. The Silence of the Lambs (also from Kino) has the wrong colors during the first 20min. I’m sure I’m missing others but can’t remember them off the top of my head.

It’s a pretty widespread problem. But people keep buying them so these companies have no incentive to fix anything or improve their quality control. The only way they’ll start making a better effort to check the quality of the final product is if it hurts their profits (i.e. people stop preordering and buying everything that gets announced on 4K without knowing whether the disc is actually good).

[DR Herbert West]

Red Heat is pretty bad.

[BluPat]

Just got mine in the mail from Walmart yesterday. Beautiful slipcover.

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by BerryTheMusicMan

HDR10 Sucks Flying Monkey Arse !

Chill out mate. There is nothing wrong with HDR10.

I am hope you don't buy 28 Days Later when its released on 4K UHD.

You could try having a word or two with Sewage Canal.

[BerryTheMusicMan]

Originally Posted by lgans316

Chill out mate. There is nothing wrong with HDR10.

I am hope you don't buy 28 Days Later when its released on 4K UHD.

You could try having a word or two with Sewage Canal.

Why should I chill ?
My opinion is HDR10 is crap compared to Dolby Vision , I changed my whole system from TV , 4K player to receiver to upgrade from HDR10 and have no regrets .
Superior picture all way around

[DraculaHasRisen]

Man, I feel like a kid watching his parents fight. I'm just excited to see this upgraded to 4k.

[DraculaHasRisen]

Originally Posted by Surge92

Does anyone know if Best Buy is going to be stocking this? It doesn't show as available anywhere near me.

I got Silence of the Lambs on Black Friday, but this was nowhere to be found. None in the area had it either.

[samlop10]

Originally Posted by DraculaHasRisen

Man, I feel like a kid watching his parents fight. I'm just excited to see this upgraded to 4k.

That’s kind of the problem… because of those compression errors I’d be hard pressed to call this an ‘upgrade’ at all. I think the MGM blu-ray is better overall.

[DraculaHasRisen]

Originally Posted by samlop10

That’s kind of the problem… because of those compression errors I’d be hard pressed to call this an ‘upgrade’ at all. I think the MGM blu-ray is better overall.

I'm frankly not as technical as most of you guys, so to me, it's 4K then it's an upgrade.

[samlop10]

Originally Posted by DraculaHasRisen

I'm frankly not as technical as most of you guys, so to me, it's 4K then it's an upgrade.

Lol. Wish that was always true.

Also, it wouldn’t hurt to look more into it to understand it. You’re basically wasting money by buying something more expensive that is not an upgrade. You’d get better quality from the cheaper, standard blu-ray.

It’s true 4K can look amazingly good… when done right. Unfortunately that isn’t the case here.

[DraculaHasRisen]

Originally Posted by samlop10

Lol. Wish that was always true.

Also, it wouldn’t hurt to look more into it to understand it. You’re basically wasting money by buying something more expensive that is not an upgrade. You’d get better quality from the cheaper, standard blu-ray.

It’s true 4K can look amazingly good… when done right. Unfortunately that isn’t the case here.

I will learn more on it. I've self taught myself over the last 2 or three years about TV's and picture quality and such. I'm just not that deep in to it to worry about "compression".