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Old 11-08-2011, 03:51 PM   #4801
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Joe will be fortunate if *retiring* is all that happens to him. He should be indicted for lying to the grand jury.
Paterno cooperated with the Grand Jury and his story matched the GA's, (who the Grand Jury found extremely credible)... how is that perjury?

Paterno has a moral problem in this case, not a legal one (unless he falls under the same rules as High School teachers owing to his being a State employee). and he should be gone.. this isn't pants or autographs for tattoo's. when nothing got done by the higher ups, everyone should have done something

Negligence contributing to the endangerment of a minor? I'm not a lawyer, i dunno

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Old 11-08-2011, 03:56 PM   #4802
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Penn St. just called off the press conference...wow!
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Old 11-08-2011, 04:01 PM   #4803
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Here's Penn State's statement on the press conference cancellation:

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Due to the on-going legal circumstances centered around the recent allegations and charges, we have determined that today's press conference cannot be held and will not be re-scheduled.
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Old 11-08-2011, 04:08 PM   #4804
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Joe testified that he told Curley the GA had reported that he saw Sanduskey....

"fondling or doing something of a sexaul nature to a young boy."

I assuming the GA told Joe flat out that it was anal sex because that is what he told Curley and the other guy at a meeting a week or two later. Seems like Joe was at the very least trying to cover his own ass by not being fully forthcoming with the grand jury and at worst was a participant in a possible coverup that involved portraying the incident as something less than what it was.
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Old 11-08-2011, 04:13 PM   #4805
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Joe testified that he told Curley the GA had reported that he saw Sanduskey....

"fondling or doing something of a sexaul nature to a young boy."

I assuming the GA told Joe flat out that it was anal sex because that is what he told Curley and the other guy at a meeting a week or two later. Seems like Joe was at the very least trying to cover his own ass by not being fully forthcoming with the grand jury and at worst was a participant in a possible coverup that involved portraying the incident as something less than what it was.
right. So if Paterno wasnt 100% truthful with Curley and the other guy, that isn't a grand Jury. "something sexual in nature with a young boy" is enough to get nearly anyone to do something, that doesn't alleviate anyone from responsibility but Joe Pa didn't actually witness it. The GA then talked to those 2 high ranking guys to fill them in on what he witnessed. I'm not defending Joe Pa, just saying that he did the bare minimum to meet his legal requirements. Unless the DA gets creative (somehting crazy like I stated above), he can't be charged. Statutes vary quite a bit form place to place

again, not defending Joe Pa, but he did tell the guy who runs to police department about this (the aforementioned 'other guy'). Then that guy in conjunction with the head of the University considered the matter handled. I'm sure Paterno thought that they had investigated and that was the conclusion reached... just sayin

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Old 11-08-2011, 04:27 PM   #4806
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According to the New York Times, Paterno will be removed from his duties within weeks if not days.
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Old 11-08-2011, 04:46 PM   #4807
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According to the New York Times, Paterno will be removed from his duties within weeks if not days.
Yeah, author John Feinstein said on the Jim Rome Show that he thinks there's a good chance Joe Pa is gone before Saturday's game. He thinks Penn State wants him gone immediately but Paterno's people will try to convince the school to let him finish the season.
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Old 11-08-2011, 04:58 PM   #4808
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This whole Paterno mess is insane. While I have never been a Penn State fan, I have always had a lot of respect for Paterno. That's all gone now, I don't see how anyone can try and protect the monster that is Sandusky. Think about all those poor kids that lost their innocence at way too young of an age. It breaks my heart.
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Old 11-08-2011, 05:22 PM   #4809
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This whole Paterno mess is insane. While I have never been a Penn State fan, I have always had a lot of respect for Paterno. That's all gone now, I don't see how anyone can try and protect the monster that is Sandusky. Think about all those poor kids that lost their innocence at way too young of an age. It breaks my heart.
I stopped thinking he was good when he was close to getting fired and started letting bums come in

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/n...ory?id=3504915


And now knowing about this I was right.
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Old 11-08-2011, 05:51 PM   #4810
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I can't put the words on how angry I am about this whole sick story.
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Old 11-08-2011, 06:49 PM   #4811
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I wonder if any former players will come forward about Sandusky using his position on the team as DC to try to get into their pants.
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Old 11-08-2011, 06:53 PM   #4812
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Wow at the title of his book:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31751_16...alled-touched/
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:24 PM   #4813
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Ironic!
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:48 PM   #4814
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It is a shame that 46 years of work is going to be destroyed because Paterno and Penn State wanted to cover this up. I have heard that there is a police report as far back as 1998 regarding this incident, which is absolutely atrocious.

How could the GA profit and better himself over this situation is far beyond my comprehension. For those of you who believe the GA did everything possible and did not profit from this look at the timing of his promotions. I understand the GA was probably talked to regarding this and told to shut up or he was done in College football, which in its own right is almost just as sick as the man raping a child in the locker room.

How the GA did not go to the police when he saw Sandusky walking around and using the teams facilities after he spoke to Paterno is just ridiculous. The GA completely ignored what happened in my mind, and Paterno covered it up. Then again the GA not stopping the act of Rape in its own right is equally as disturbing. Personally I don't get how he didn't confront someone when he say Sandusky walking around campus weeks after the incident.
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:53 PM   #4815
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There's no way Joe coaches this week or ever again, its just not possible. PSU would be burnt to the ground.
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:55 PM   #4816
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There's no way Joe coaches this week or ever again, its just not possible. PSU would be burnt to the ground.
What? Joe is coaching until after the season
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:58 PM   #4817
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What? Joe is coaching until after the season
Thats highly unlikely given the backlash and the fact the University is looking to dump him as per every media report out today.
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It is a shame that 46 years of work is going to be destroyed because Paterno and Penn State wanted to cover this up. I have heard that there is a police report as far back as 1998 regarding this incident, which is absolutely atrocious.
Yes, there was an investigation into Sandusky in 1998 after 2 boys accused Sandusky of washing them in a shower. Sandusky admitted to showering with a boy and that he knew it was wrong, but nobody knows why the case didn't proceed because the prosecutor disappeared in 2005 and has been declared dead.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind..._da_ray_g.html
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Yes, there was an investigation into Sandusky in 1998 after 2 boys accused Sandusky of washing them in a shower. Sandusky admitted to showering with a boy and that he knew it was wrong, but nobody knows why the case didn't proceed because the prosecutor disappeared in 2005 and has been declared dead.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind..._da_ray_g.html
Is that the same case in 1998 where the mother of one of the boys reported it, I am literally just trying to follow everything to truthfully form my own opinions on this.

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Yeah after reading the article it appears we are discussing the same thing.

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Old 11-08-2011, 09:37 PM   #4820
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It is a shame that 46 years of work is going to be destroyed because Paterno and Penn State wanted to cover this up.

How the GA (Graduate Assistant) did not go to the police when he saw Sandusky walking around and using the teams facilities after he spoke to Paterno is just ridiculous. The GA completely ignored what happened in my mind, and Paterno covered it up. Then again the GA not stopping the act of Rape in its own right is equally as disturbing. Personally I don't get how he didn't confront someone when he say Sandusky walking around campus weeks after the incident.

Right, the Rape of a Child, well, isn't it morally the equivalent of murder ? ?


If you saw murder being committed, and reported it, and then you saw the murderer walking around and using the teams facilities after he spoke to Paterno, now wouldn't you morally feel something is amiss, and take further action... in such a case as that ?? Well, wouldn't you ???

This is more than story about a theft or a burglary. It's about witnessing the anal rape of a child 10 years old. Assuming that the GA told them explicitly what he saw, well that should have been enough to cause immediate actions on the part of the University Administration.

Too Big To Fail.....

Well, we'll see ! ! ! !

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