Titanic 4K UHD (1997)

[Ulisez]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Really? I saw the '4K 3D' remaster in February and several bits looked weirdly smooth to me.

Even if no 2K48 DCPs went out to theaters, Titanic *did* get a HFR upgrade nonetheless: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301588450.html

Ya. I second this. Watched it at an IMAX Laser and some sections like exploring the wreck, Southampton sequence, and final plunge were in HFR and liked how it looked since it was subtle, and not obtrusive as Way of Water.

[YodasFootPowder]

I got dragged to Dances with Wolves when I was 9 years old with my Grandmother and Great-Great-Uncle. They had an intermission for that at my local theater. But, I'd imagine it was because there were a lot of old folks enjoying that movie. It just gave me an excuse to play Smash TV in the arcade for 15 minutes!

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by dorian

To be fair, many Indian films are a lot longer than the average European/American film.

Titanic is the biggest and most favourite Hollywood film in India. It goes houseful every time it is re-released here. In many ways, it does look like a typical Bollywood melodrama. Poor boy meets rich girl and tries too woo her. There's music and dancing until disaster strikes. Unlike titanic, though, the Bollywood hero typically survives and the couple gets a happily ever after, or both get killed (on rare occasions).

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Thanks for the clarification: re Titanic's 70s coming from the pre-formatted IN but technically there's nothing to stop them doing a 70 straight from the 1.33 neg because there's no anamorphosis needed. They can reposition it shot by shot while doing the print and the VFX being in 1.85-ish doesn't matter because it could also be repositioned on the fly. BUT that's a lot of work for just one print, they'd have to do it all over again for each print so yes, using an IN makes much more sense! (Though for anamorphic shows they could and did just lift those directly from the OG neg, usually in a wetgate to reduce wear.)

Wetgate was indeed done for Titanic's 1997 prints as the asc article makes clear. The 35 anamorph prints of the movie back then were also struck from the same IN that the 70mms were struck from. It's mentioned in the article I linked in my response to you.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

Wetgate was indeed done for Titanic's 1997 prints as the asc article makes clear. The 35 anamorph prints of the movie back then were also struck from the same IN that the 70mms were struck from. It's mentioned in the article I linked in my response to you.

No, sorry, I didn't mean the 35 prints re: anamorphic shows, I meant 70s. One of the reasons why popular movies of yesteryear like Star Wars are in such bad shape is that the 70s were printed right off the negative.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by starmike

OK, but there's a bit of a problem with that. ALL the theaters in my area that I've been to have the bathrooms between the outer doors and the ticket checkers. So now you have 700 people leaving the theater to pee in a span of 10 minutes or so, and how do you make sure these people aren't theater hopping?

How did they used to manage it long ago when intermissions were a thing? Somehow they managed. This isn't an unsolvable problem.

As someone else mentioned, maybe a half-hour of ads and trailers doesn't help.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by sojrner

No matter what you do, you will never please or accommodate everyone, regardless of how heartbreaking the plight. 3D, surround sound, smell-o-vision, HFR, HDR... they all exclude someone. (I have a vision-impaired friend who cannot watch any large-format or even modestly-sized "normal" screen without getting motion sickness) This road leads to pain and suffering. Turn back while you still can and just let the movie get made and presented as intended.

I mean, by that logic, we wouldn't have handicapped parking spots and wheelchair ramps.

We used to have intermissions, and that was for 90-minute films. It's not asking the undoable to have an intermission for a 3 hour+ film.

[starmike]

Originally Posted by mar3o

How did they used to manage it long ago when intermissions were a thing? Somehow they managed. This isn't an unsolvable problem.

Bathrooms used to be between the ticket check and the theater. As stated above, this was before multiplexes. More specifically, this was before electronic tickets. You used to have the name and time printed on your ticket.

There's a whole Seinfeld episode about this.

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

No, sorry, I didn't mean the 35 prints re: anamorphic shows, I meant 70s. One of the reasons why popular movies of yesteryear like Star Wars are in such bad shape is that the 70s were printed right off the negative.

So, it's always more sensible to create a dupe negative and do the prints from that one. One generation loss isn't a huge deal, but a damaged OCN is a big headache. Unless I am misremembering, Superman 1978's (or maybe it was another film) 4K mastering hit snags as the original negative was damaged in places. For those parts they had to use duplicates and even other positive materials many generations removed from the OCN to create the full 4K master.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by starmike

Bathrooms used to be between the ticket check and the theater. As stated above, this was before multiplexes. More specifically, this was before electronic tickets. You used to have the name and time printed on your ticket.

There's a whole Seinfeld episode about this.

Who's going to bother to ticket-hop halfway through a film?

[starmike]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Who's going to bother to ticket-hop halfway through a film?

I've done it. Bad film? Move on to the next one.

Over the weekend I was talking with someone who would theater-hop whole movies because they don't check from one theater to another.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

So, it's always more sensible to create a dupe negative and do the prints from that one. One generation loss isn't a huge deal, but a damaged OCN is a big headache. Unless I am misremembering, Superman 1978's (or maybe it was another film) 4K mastering hit snags as the original negative was damaged in places. For those parts they had to use duplicates and even other positive materials many generations removed from the OCN to create the full 4K master.

That just happened with film in them days, separate from the years of wear and tear, as a bad bit of handling in the lab is enough to ruin a shot, a reel or worse. In those same AC articles about Titanic Cameron said that the first thing he does when he does a hazeltine timing is to strike a protection IP just in case anything happens to the negative after that. But the funny thing about Supes is that the IP they found of the Luthor's Lair bit is in far betterer shape than the YCM dupe that was cut into the conformed OG negative...and yet for the 4K theatrical transfer they insisted on using that shitty old dupe rather than the C roll of fixes they prepared for the 2000 SE.

But Nolan had all the 15/70 prints for Dunkirk struck from the negative and that wasn't a small run, it was 30 or 40 prints IIRC. But he trusted FotoKem and IMAX to handle the negative with utmost care and so there's no reason why the negative should be getting torn up, unlike yestermillenium where it was all treated very matter-of-factly by people being paid peanuts in the labs who just didn't care about the material they were handling.

[GasmaskAvenger]

I got my big boy set in the mail today, but I cannot find a digital code insert in there despite being advertised having one, so I sent Paramount an email about it.

[Nitroes]

Got my copy from HMV:



Not seen this since the cinema so hopefully I'll enjpoy it.

[mjvmovieman]

Originally Posted by Nitroes

Got my copy from HMV:



Not seen this since the cinema so hopefully I'll enjpoy it.

Is the included blu-ray also remastered or the old disc?

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by mjvmovieman

Is the included blu-ray also remastered or the old disc?

2012 disc.

[KcMsterpce]

Originally Posted by starmike

There's a whole Seinfeld episode about this.

Kramer Becomes The Moviefone Man | The Pool Guy | Seinfeld - YouTube

[starmike]

Originally Posted by KcMsterpce

Kramer Becomes The Moviefone Man | The Pool Guy | Seinfeld - YouTube

No, I was talking about the other one about the ticket taker who didn't remember that George left for a second and didn't have his stub.

The Moviefone episode is great, too.

[Fjodor2000]

Where the F* are the caps at caps-a-holic? The 4K BD has been on the marked for some time now, so what's holding them back? Can't some disappointed customer donate their copy to them for analysis.

[KcMsterpce]

Originally Posted by starmike

No, I was talking about the other one about the ticket taker who didn't remember that George left for a second and didn't have his stub.

The Moviefone episode is great, too.

Yeah, but you reminded me of one of my favorite bits of the show.