Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

That means you are at least 115-124 years old!

I am going to guess that you bought your first projector when you were 9 years old in the year 1909.

[Show spoiler]The 1900s can be defined as either 1900-1909 or as 1900-1999; in this case the former is more interesting and therefore must be true.

And watching peep shows!

[the-pi-guy]

Originally Posted by bhampton

My goal for 2025 is to get to 1000 UHD BDs !

That's quite a few.
I'm not sure I'll ever get to that number.

I'm not even sure I would want to get to that kind of number.

[Vilya]

No one should have 1000 of anything!

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by the-pi-guy

That's quite a few.
I'm not sure I'll ever get to that number.

I'm not even sure I would want to get to that kind of number.

Bought 5 more in town today. (used so costs the same as 1 new in this case.)

It's not really about the number but the number is significant on it's own.

[crutzulee]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Well, Now or later are both great times to upgrade.

I'm in my forever home with UHD BD, an 8K laser JVC front projector, and 7.2.4 ATMOS setup. I would have to double check but I believe this is maybe my 8th projector so it took a while but I guess that's what happens over 25 years. My first projector was purchased in the 1900s. This is the first projector I purchased new at FFF. (Retail or Full ####me Fee as I often say. There was a discount for pre orders.)

Projectors tend to get better and cheaper. One fun thing about a bulb projector of course is being able to change the bulb. I use my projector and home theater everyday. There is a service center designated and when the time comes I will have to see if it makes sense to replace the Laser or upgrade to a 3 laser unit or simply another newer unit with some other better spec.

I hope to have to deal with those types of decisions someday.


-Brian

Yeah... doing the math, I'm on my 7th projector not including 4 previous "massive" 50-55 inch rear projection units prior to that..lol..

i think you and I have been on a similar trajectory as my first FP unit was a 3 gun SONY CRT about 25 years ago when my wife and setup our first home together.. I had been assuming that the next upgrade would be to JVC laser tech until the NP came into my wheelhouse...As i watched last night's hockey game in glorious 4K and 133 inches, I realized that this setup is still putting an enormous grin on my face and that the money is better put towards taking the family on another European holiday next spring...

I have a feeling that this special price point might be the new ceiling as they clear out the last of the lamp based units...

[bhampton]

They still have room to grow as a 3 laser setup removes the need for a color filter to get full gamut.

Some of the UST projectors already use 3 Laser setups (Hisense PX3-PRO Projector) so it's definitely on the road map. They have not run out of ways to improve them.

Will they get better AND cheaper ... that's complicated but in the long term I imagine they will.

[crutzulee]

Every ballpark has its own special ground rules, every cinema auditorium has it's special dimensions and every HT has it's compromises...

When i think of what I want - to sit close enough to an image that takes up my entire field of vision in scope and have my front soundstage come from the screen- I have no choice but to go with a DIY SPANDEX screen... while it wasn't a priority consideration, it doesn't hurt that this is also the dirt cheap solution.. lol..

I've never had as impressive an audio experience as I have with an A/T screen... but I've yet to come across an A/T material that I couldn't easily makeout the perforations on...

The combination of the JVC and SPANDEX means a less sharp and bright picture... The former may be alleviated by going native 4K as opposed to an eshifter... the latter I'm more than OK with as I'm in a completely blacked out cave..Spandex only has a .7 gain which I actually love as the methods most screen manufacturers use to increase gain introduce anomalies that I'm sensitive to.... so I'm reticent to fix what isn't currently broken..lol..

[Wendell R. Breland]

Just submitted the following to 6 vendors:

[Show spoiler]

It will be after the first of the year before a winner is selected and a purchase made.

[bhampton]

That's awesome.

No matter who wins ... you wins...

[crutzulee]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Just submitted the following to 6 vendors:

[Show spoiler]

It will be after the first of the year before a winner is selected and a purchase made.

I'm assuming you submitted the quote request to Mike Garrett over at AVS?

[Vilya]

Added another handful:

[Warm Gun]

Originally Posted by CV19

I couldn't agree more - I hated it. Back in the days of VHS, I would always buy a widescreen version if it was available, even though I didn't have a widescreen TV at the time.

I wanted my mother to get an Indiana Jones widescreen VHS when we were at the mall, but she told me it wouldn't work on our TV, and I believed her.

[CV19]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

I wanted my mother to get an Indiana Jones widescreen VHS when we were at the mall, but she told me it wouldn't work on our TV, and I believed her.

Here in the UK, I don't remember there being an Indiana Jones VHS set in widescreen - I would have snapped that up for sure. To be honest, there weren't really all that many releases in widescreen. It was only when DVD was launched that we then had the opportunity to watch a movie in its proper ratio - although I still recall some very early DVD's which offered a pan and scan version on one side, and the widescreen presentation on the other.

[crutzulee]

Originally Posted by CV19

Here in the UK, I don't remember there being an Indiana Jones VHS set in widescreen - I would have snapped that up for sure. To be honest, there weren't really all that many releases in widescreen. It was only when DVD was launched that we then had the opportunity to watch a movie in its proper ratio - although I still recall some very early DVD's which offered a pan and scan version on one side, and the widescreen presentation on the other.

VHS and LaserDisc were both released in the 70's. Long before DVD came along, many of us were enjoying movies in their proper aspect ratio (letterboxed on 4:3 screens) on the latter . I credit Roger Ebert for turning me on to the format in my teens.

While at university, My girlfriend and I lived in an apartment literally across the street from a BLOCKBUSTER... It used to make her absolutely crazy that we couldn't rent new releases from there as I would insist on waiting between 3 to 6 months to drive miles out of our way to rent the LD from an asian supermarket...Thank God she never complained about the black bars like some of my friends that soon became ex-friends.... actually that might have saved us both a lot of aggro...

[CV19]

Originally Posted by crutzulee

VHS and LaserDisc were both released in the 70's. Long before DVD came along, many of us were enjoying movies in their proper aspect ratio (letterboxed on 4:3 screens) on the latter .

Unfortunately I never owned laser discs, although I would have loved to. I remember a shop in Manchester that I used to walk past occasionally and they had a number of them on display in the window. Of course, I can only speak of what we had in the UK, but I can't honestly remember any VHS widescreen editions until perhaps around the mid to late 80's - I think the Star Wars films may have been one of the first ones, but I was never in to those films so I gave them a miss.

The Longest Day was re-released on VHS in a widescreen edition by Fox in the early 90's - I think it may have been to commemorate the 50th Anniversary of the D-Day landings, but not 100% sure on that. However I did buy it, and quickly binned my awful pan and scan tape.

Talking of black bars, I believe the BBC experimented with widescreen transmissions in the late 60's and 70's whereby they showed a small number of films in their original CinemaScope ratio - I personally don't recall this, but it's something I read somewhere. I gather the continuity announcer had to warn people not to adjust their TV sets.

[crutzulee]

Because I was so heavily into Laserdisc's, I can barely recall anything about letterboxed VHS and it's market penetration (or lack there of). I know of the format, because a well meaning friend bought me a copy of Pulp Fiction. Of course it was long after I had already purchased my LD copy.

Other than disc flipping, there was little technical reason to shift my buying habits away from LD when DVD came on the scene. Even though I purchased the first PANASONIC player available, I continued to rent and buy LD for some time depending on which version of a title was more readily available. Actually more titles became available day and date with VHS when DVD came along.

If memory serves, it wasn't until DVDs started being released with anamorphic enhancement and I discovered how to do the "squeeze" trick on my SONY 3 gun projector that the format represented enough of a technilogical advantage for me to shift completely away from LD..

[cheez avenger]

Got my tickets for Se7en in IMAX for the special engagement 1/3/25.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by crutzulee

I'm assuming you submitted the quote request to Mike Garrett over at AVS?

Been dealing with AVS Sales > 20 years. Garrett for everything related to projectors and remotes. Craig Peer for NAS, media players.

Been to Mike Garrett's home/business in western Kentucky.

[cheez avenger]

Catching Werewolves in theaters tomorrow evening. I'm pretty stoked.

[veritas]

Do you guys accept damaged goods? Like I bought aqua man and paid 30% more then I thought it would go for. It has no slip and the case is damaged. most of the time i feel like even a slip cover would have been enough to save the case.