Halloween H20: Twenty Years Later (1998)

[Blu Myers]

Originally Posted by CaptainZombie

LOL! What does Rob Zombie's Halloween have to do with H20? LOL! I don't mean to be rude here, but its cluttering up the H20 thread.....wouldn't this be better in the RZ H1/H2 BD thread?

My bad man. Back on topic.

Did any of you guys get your triple packs in yet? What'd you think? I find that I have to punch up the color on my HDTV for the H20, but other than that, it looks great.

[thewolf1983]

Just bought Halloween h20 on blu at a Best Buy in MA!! Idk if this was a mistake on there part or what. I looked for Halloween 6 but nada. Finding that would have been the icing on the cake! lol

[CaptainZombie]

Originally Posted by leem6453

My bad man. Back on topic.

Did any of you guys get your triple packs in yet? What'd you think? I find that I have to punch up the color on my HDTV for the H20, but other than that, it looks great.

Mine came in and my thoughts are above, but got lost in all the Rob Zombie talk. LOL! Here you go in case you missed them.



We are half way through watching "Curse" and even though this is in 1080i, it walks circles around the Dimension DVD release. The DVD release was just way too damn dark, blacks looked crushed, dark scenes were terrible, etc. There are some white specs that pop up here and there throughout. From a PQ standpoint, this looks really good and I can only imagine what this would be like in 1080p. My only complaint so far is the audio, it is way too soft and way more front heavy......so if the Echo release is DTS-HD MA 2.0, then it shouldn't be that big of a problem at all since the rears in "Curse" are not as active, but I did have an issue with H20 not having a 5.1 mix.

I still bet that Echo will screw this up and give a much worse PQ than this 1080i print.

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Watching H20 now, I can confirm that the excessive DNR in the Echo release is very bad. It doesn't help that the PQ is inconsistent throughout looking ok in some scenes and bad in others. In the Alliance release so far the PQ has been consistent throughout.

Again, the DTS-HD MA 5.1 mix here, is more front heavy like the what is found in Echo Bridge's DTS-HA MA 2.0 release. There is some sounds and effects coming from the rears, but not what I would have expected.

What it comes down to it here is the picture quality. The difference is pretty big between the Alliance and Echo Bridge release. The EB release has excessive DNR and everyone looks like they went tanning before filming, it is that bad.

At this personally do yourselves a favor and just get the Alliance release considering how much they screwed up H20.

Now I just need to get Dracula 2000 Alliance release.

[Blu Myers]

Originally Posted by CaptainZombie

Mine came in and my thoughts are above, but got lost in all the Rob Zombie talk. LOL! Here you go in case you missed them.



We are half way through watching "Curse" and even though this is in 1080i, it walks circles around the Dimension DVD release. The DVD release was just way too damn dark, blacks looked crushed, dark scenes were terrible, etc. There are some white specs that pop up here and there throughout. From a PQ standpoint, this looks really good and I can only imagine what this would be like in 1080p. My only complaint so far is the audio, it is way too soft and way more front heavy......so if the Echo release is DTS-HD MA 2.0, then it shouldn't be that big of a problem at all since the rears in "Curse" are not as active, but I did have an issue with H20 not having a 5.1 mix.

I still bet that Echo will screw this up and give a much worse PQ than this 1080i print.

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Watching H20 now, I can confirm that the excessive DNR in the Echo release is very bad. It doesn't help that the PQ is inconsistent throughout looking ok in some scenes and bad in others. In the Alliance release so far the PQ has been consistent throughout.

Again, the DTS-HD MA 5.1 mix here, is more front heavy like the what is found in Echo Bridge's DTS-HA MA 2.0 release. There is some sounds and effects coming from the rears, but not what I would have expected.

What it comes down to it here is the picture quality. The difference is pretty big between the Alliance and Echo Bridge release. The EB release has excessive DNR and everyone looks like they went tanning before filming, it is that bad.

At this personally do yourselves a favor and just get the Alliance release considering how much they screwed up H20.

Now I just need to get Dracula 2000 Alliance release.

Agreed on all fronts. Curse is a HUGE upgrade from the non anamorphic dvd. I never knew there were so many colors in the movie, and the atmosphere is this movie rivals most of the other Halloween sequels.

I posted above how I felt about H20...also a huge improvement PQ wise. It just seemed like the color was a little on the dull side, probably a result of the original print since the dvd wasn't that colorful either.

[HotRats]

The Alliance triple feature seems the best bet at the moment but H20 seems to have been issued on DVD by a large number of different companies in Europe and the rest of the world so it'll be worth keeping an eye out to see what eventually gets issued there

[Nostromo]

Originally Posted by CaptainZombie

You might be ok with the OAR as is with the EB release, but doesn't not having a lossless 5.1 mix bother you at all? That lossless 2.0 mix wasn't bad, but also underwhelming to me. I could have dealt with the open matte if this had a lossless 5.1 mix.

What confuses me is that some people here are saying how much better the Canadian release looks vs. the EB version of H20. For me, if FDTD is an indication, I am expecting the Alliance release to blow it away. There was a guy that posted comparison shots of the Dimension H20 DVD vs. the EB BD that just released, and I hate to say it, but the Dimension DVD looked a bit better in those screens. I say that because there looked to be some loss of detail in the EB Blu vs. the DVD. The darn EB Blu also has DNR like a mofo......it's like the cast of H20 went to the same tanning salon the cast of FDTD did in Echo Bridge's world before filming either movie. LOL!

I don't mean to reign on your happiness with the print and if your happy, that is all that matters.....but the lack of a lossless 5.1 or even lossy 5.1 mix bugs me the most.

Actually, not a lot at all.

Sure, I wish I wish I could use my Alliance triple pack (for anyone who hasn't read my earlier post, my triple pack no longer plays in any bluray players, despite the fact that it's relatively new, and scratch free, etc.).

I would definitely prefer the lossless 5.1 of the ATP, but the audio in the EB version sounds good -- not great, but good.

Since my triple pack no longer works, it was either go back to the H20 DVD, or get the EB version of the bluray.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Can someone link me to the screenshot comparisons of the Dimension H20 DVD and the EB Blu-ray?

[sancho]

Captain Zombie. Glad to read that the Triple pack arrived.

[1988jrb]

Originally Posted by thewolf1983

Just bought Halloween h20 on blu at a Best Buy in MA!! Idk if this was a mistake on there part or what. I looked for Halloween 6 but nada. Finding that would have been the icing on the cake! lol

there have english subtitles? thanks

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by 1988jrb

there have english subtitles? thanks

No.

[Yojimbo68]

I emailed EB to complain about this release. Let's see if I get a response. I will post it here if I do. Don't hold your breath!

[BillieCassin]

I am so frickin' confused.

If I want to own H20, which version do I want to get? I'll import if I need to, but I am hella confused following this thread haha.

[chilltown82]

Originally Posted by BillieCassin

I am so frickin' confused.

If I want to own H20, which version do I want to get? I'll import if I need to, but I am hella confused following this thread haha.

Compared to Echo Bridge, it appears from those who have seen it that you are better off getting the Alliance Triple Pack...even though when the Alliance Triple Pack came out, i remember everybody kinda ragging on the H20 part of that Triple Pack.

Now with Echo Bridge sucking, everybody seems back on the Alliance Triple Pack bandwagon.

to sum it up, I don't think there is any actual GREAT version of H20 on any home video platform. But if you have to pick, I guess the Alliance version gets it the most "right."

[Yojimbo68]

Originally Posted by BillieCassin

I am so frickin' confused.

If I want to own H20, which version do I want to get? I'll import if I need to, but I am hella confused following this thread haha.

Just for the record, the Alliance release is in 1080i, not 1080p. Still, It's got the right aspect ratio and HD 5.1 sound. Avoid the Echo Bridge release at all costs. Wrong aspect ratio and only stere sound.

[TLeeTx2012]

The Best Buys here in Lexington have H2O out already too.

[thedarkangel1975]

I heard this film is cropped. Can anyone confirm?

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by thedarkangel1975

I heard this film is cropped. Can anyone confirm?

No, it's open matte, which means you're seeing more of the image, but the director didn't want it that way.

[davidthenikonuser]

Originally Posted by JLTucker

Can someone link me to the screenshot comparisons of the Dimension H20 DVD and the EB Blu-ray?

http://www.theaterthoughts.com/?p=2313

[Rhoq]

Originally Posted by davidthenikonuser

http://www.theaterthoughts.com/?p=2313

I find it funny that the reviewer's name is John Carpenter.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

My copy of the Alliance Triple pack arrived. Unfortunately it's all on a single disc, and Curse and H20 are in 1080i. The menu is pretty great, showing clips from all three films.

Curse looks pretty damned good, even with the grain levels being somewhat high. Blacks are inconsistent, but when they're deep, they're excellent.

H20 is very spotty, with specks all over the image throughout. There's one black speck that is prevalent for 44 seconds into the film from the start. The black levels are decent, even in the grain. It is still far better than the Dimension DVD. The bitrate is quite high, I even saw it hit 24mbps.

Resurrection seems to look the best on the disc, perhaps tied with Curse. The grain is there, but it looks fine. Black levels are decent and on par with the other films, from the skimming I did.

When I watch them all this weekend, I'll post complete reviews.