Predator 3D Blu-ray (1987) [Region Locked]

[The Fallen Deity]

Has there been any confirmation as to what source was used for the new transfer? OCN? IP?

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

I think that the encoding is the main culprit as to why that transfer looks quite mushy. Using MPEG-2 on a Blu-Ray is never a good idea, you get too many compression artifacts.

Those earlier noisy MPEG-2 releases and smoothed-over VC-1 for that matter are really showing their age.

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Those earlier noisy MPEG-2 releases and smoothed-over VC-1 for that matter are really showing their age.

Yup, I totally agree.

[Ill_Be_Back]

French Release



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[rickah88]

That Predator head is pretty sweet, but I'm hoping that "Predator Vision" slip will be widely available!! That looks so damn neat! I'm thinking it will, as it really goes with the case art.

[Ill_Be_Back]

Originally Posted by rickah88

That Predator head is pretty sweet, but I'm hoping that "Predator Vision" slip will be widely available!! That looks so damn neat! I'm thinking it will, as it really goes with the case art.

I agree, that slipcover looks amazing. I hope it comes with the standard release.

[nagysaudio]

This is shaping up to be THE release of 2013?

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Jsmith82

A buddy of mine is in San Diego right now attending Comic-con and just posted the picture above to his Facebook page. Guess that confirms December for certain

I've messaged him and asked if get ends up back by that booth, to take some additional pictures and to tag me in them so we can get a little bit more information about the 3D release.

So, did you get any information from your friend on the quality of the 3D clips shown at the booth?. It seems most people were mesmerized by the figurines and heads rather than the PQ of the 3D clips. Perhaps you could pick your friend's brain and get back to us.

[Jsmith82]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

So, did you get any information from your friend on the quality of the 3D clips shown at the booth?. It seems most people were mesmerized by the figurines and heads rather than the PQ of the 3D clips. Perhaps you could pick your friend's brain and get back to us.

Haha - yeah, I grilled him back when he was at SDCC. Unfortunately he didn't have time to wait in line and get up to the booth for a sneak peak (was on his own panel) so I don't have any insight in to the quality of the conversion, just the pics and the confirmation that only 500 Predator heads were made available to the public.

I will say after seeing the reviews and some screens of Jumper 3D, the same technology was used that they utilized to turn i,Robot to 3D. Being it's Fox re-releasing this in 3D in the same manner, it's pretty safe to say quality wise we'll be looking at the JVC conversion method. While I'm okay with this, others definitely will not be. However, I'll keep hopes they pushed the boundaries a little further and harder than the latter 2 conversions.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by nagysaudio

This is shaping up to be THE release of 2013?

For cover art?

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by nagysaudio

This is shaping up to be THE release of 2013?

Once we get to see the 2D version we'll know.

[BigNickUK]

The Laurel and Hardy of 3D.....Fox and JVC

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Once we get to see the 2D version we'll know.

Well a member on the UK side has Fox's Jumper and says it is worse than i,Robot so they have to really pull a 180 here on quality

[nagysaudio]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Well a member on the UK side has Fox's Jumper and says it is worse than i,Robot so they have to really pull a 180 here on quality

No one cares about the 3D part.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Jsmith82

Haha - yeah, I grilled him back when he was at SDCC. Unfortunately he didn't have time to wait in line and get up to the booth for a sneak peak (was on his own panel) so I don't have any insight in to the quality of the conversion, just the pics and the confirmation that only 500 Predator heads were made available to the public.

I will say after seeing the reviews and some screens of Jumper 3D, the same technology was used that they utilized to turn i,Robot to 3D. Being it's Fox re-releasing this in 3D in the same manner, it's pretty safe to say quality wise we'll be looking at the JVC conversion method. While I'm okay with this, others definitely will not be. However, I'll keep hopes they pushed the boundaries a little further and harder than the latter 2 conversions.

Yes. There is no question that the JVC Kenwood workstation at the Fox "lab" was used for the conversion. Some of the authors that wrote articles about the JVC process need to go back to Ian Harvey for an update to see if any improvements have been made since I, Robot 3D.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1179...-converted-3d#

Many on the non 3D forum are ignoring the fact that one of the advantages of the JVC automated process is one 3D disk that plays the left eye image as the 2D version. It will be the same for the Predator release. They can't help speculating that some grand "all new transfer" and remaster will result in a stand alone 2D disk that will be superior to the 2010 UHE release.

With the JVC process, the 2D version is nothing more than the "left eye" of the 3D image. The mastering was done for the best 3D image. No consideration, whatsoever, was given to complaints about the UHE for this release. Yet, they keep pointing to the fact that there will be a second disk, based on tweets from James Finn, the Fox Entertainment marketing spokesman. He and Vincent Marcais were recently promoted. Marcais was the one that rejected complaints about the UHE as "unfair" over two years ago. The second disk will contain the extras, since they will not fit on the 3D disk.

In order to keep costs down (the business model for low cost 3D catalog conversions doesn't work, otherwise), the cheapest way to provide the extras is to include a copy of the 2D Ultimate Hunter Edition Blu-ray. I wouldn't be surprised if they did that, rather than just port the UHE extras onto a disk.

The primary reason Predator was chosen for conversion is fan based support, evidenced, in part, by the continuing strong sales of the UHE Blu-ray.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by nagysaudio

No one cares about the 3D part.

Apart from the people realise the 2d version will be a left or right eye (more likely right eye) stream so the quality of the 3d version is rather paramount.

[Impossible]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Apart from the people realise the 2d version will be a left or right eye (more likely right eye) stream so the quality of the 3d version is rather paramount.

Or they package the old disc in the pack with it, so you have a shit 2D version and a shit 3D version.....

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Impossible

Or they package the old disc in the pack with it, so you have a shit 2D version and a shit 3D version.....

Or those people too!

[fitprod]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

Yes. There is no question that the JVC Kenwood workstation at the Fox "lab" was used for the conversion. Some of the authors that wrote articles about the JVC process need to go back to Ian Harvey for an update to see if any improvements have been made since I, Robot 3D.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1179...-converted-3d#

Many on the non 3D forum are ignoring the fact that one of the advantages of the JVC automated process is one 3D disk that plays the left eye image as the 2D version.

The JVC process has nothing to do with it. The ability to playback the left eye image is a function of how the disc is authored.

Titles like the Avatar, which was designed a a promotional disc originally, allowed the user to playback the disc in 2D or 3D.

When Fox/Paramount dealt with Titanic, it was authored specifically to not allow the user to playback the film in 2D. (Baring 3D Players/TV, that allow you to shut off the 3D function on the fly.)

fitprod

[42041]

Those other quickie conversions already have very solid 2D releases, in this case I would hope the folks at Fox would be a bit more attentive to the 2D side of things third time around...