Scanners (1981)

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

You have a much better resolve than I do. I watched a DVD a few days ago and I about cringed because everything looked like I needed my eyes checked.

Scanners has that effect on you?

[KowalskiVideo]

"Media Target Distribution Gmbh" is (as the name implies) the distributor. They distribute some german indie labels like "Subkultur", "Filmart", "Edition Filmclub" and probably are most-well known for distributing the Jörg Buttgereit films ("Nekromantik"). Just do a search for "Media Target Distribution Gmbh" at amazon.de and you'll see.

So to answer your question, if its says "Media Target" it is the Subkultur disc (the disc you linked is the right one, its the standard edition in a keep case, Digipak (same BD + DVD/Booklet): http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00AA7GWH8/).
The first release was by "Black Hill" (upscale!) and was distributed by Koch Media, the new "Explosive Media" disc (Scanners Trilogy, UK/Aussie Master, region B locked, no specials features) is distributed by "Alive AG".... so you see, its all very easy

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by brasil

Great many thanks!

Last question: No limit to the this, correct? Only the digipak was limited edition?

Yeah, the standard case is still in print.

[KowalskiVideo]

No both were limited (and sold out @ distributor), but only the digipak was numbered. Subkultur always does limited runs (like twilight time) in small quantities (like 1000 to 1500 copies). I don't think the Standard Case is still in print (it may have been till end of 2013) but since "Explosive" took over the rights and came out with their own release in early 2014, it can't be still in print.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by KowalskiVideo

No both were limited (and sold out @ distributor), but only the digipak was numbered. Subkultur always does limited runs (like twilight time) in small quantities (like 1000 to 1500 copies). I don't think the Standard Case is still in print (it may have been till end of 2013) but since "Explosive" took over the rights and came out with their own release in early 2014, it can't be still in print.

That would make sense I suppose. It has been in stock on amazon.de so I figured it was still in print.

[Pecker]

It has to be said, they're only comparing it with the lesser of the European releases, which we all know look pants anyway.

Steve W

[KowalskiVideo]

Machting caps from the german BD for for the beaver review:

German Subkultur vs. US Criterion (Beaver-Caps)

[Losey]

Originally Posted by KowalskiVideo

Machting caps from the german BD for for the beaver review:

German Subkultur vs. US Criterion (Beaver-Caps)

This is not the Subkultur. this is the lesser Koch Media blu, which came out before.

[Mansinthe]

for me the screens of the german bluray look "better" on my laptop screen. thats as far as i would judge both releases with only screencaps on a not calbirated screen

the criterion might look great on my projector. (or not). but it would be wrong to judge the release only froms ome screens...

i didnt like the screens of "thief" since it looked "odd" as well with all that "tiel" , but i liked the look of it in montion on the big screen.
the koch bluray does indeed look color boosted and "greenish" like beaver says.

for Scanners it looks like we cant go wrong with getting 2 releases anyway. cuz of the bonus features....

[tedopolous]

Originally Posted by KowalskiVideo

Machting caps from the german BD for for the beaver review:

[Show spoiler]
German Subkultur vs. US Criterion (Beaver-Caps)

Thanks for this comparison. I'm getting the Subkultur release. I don't like the Criterion colors at all. The blacks looks more like blue/green on the Criterion BD?

[KowalskiVideo]

Originally Posted by Losey

This is not the Subkultur. this is the lesser Koch Media blu, which came out before.

These caps i took are from the german Subkultur BD, to see the Koch disc look at review:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-r...rs_blu-ray.htm

[tedopolous]

Originally Posted by Losey

This is not the Subkultur. this is the lesser Koch Media blu, which came out before.

The one on the left is definitely not Koch Media.

[Mansinthe]

Originally Posted by tedopolous

Thanks for this comparison. I'm getting the Subkultur release. I don't like the Criterion colors at all. The blacks looks more like blue/green on the Criterion BD?

the koch media bluray looks like a color boosted overprocessed upscale (edge enhacement). i like the colors of the german bluray as well on my laptop screen. since they look like colors we are used to have on DVDs and old releases... but that doesnt mean that the criterion release will look bad in motion or "wrong"

after all its approved by cronenberg. that should at least mean something.

[Losey]

Originally Posted by KowalskiVideo

These caps i took are from the german Subkultur BD, to see the Koch disc look at review:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-r...rs_blu-ray.htm

I misunderstood. My bad, sorry.

[KowalskiVideo]

Originally Posted by Mansinthe

the koch media bluray looks like a color boosted overprocessed upscale (edge enhacement). i like the colors of the german bluray as well on my laptop screen. since they look like colors we are used to have on DVDs and old releases... but that doesnt mean that the criterion release will look bad in motion or "wrong"

Please dont say "the" german Blu-ray since there 3 different version with 3 different master Koch/Black Hill (terrible upscale with boosted colors), Subkultur (MGM Protection Master), Explosive (UK/Aussie Master).

[FelixFlankin]

Does the Trilogy set from Alive feature the same transfer as Subkultur? As I don't have the other two films and it doesn't seem to be too much more.

Edit: Just saw the information above.

[tedopolous]

Originally Posted by Mansinthe

the koch media bluray looks like a color boosted overprocessed upscale (edge enhacement). i like the colors of the german bluray as well on my laptop screen. since they look like colors we are used to have on DVDs and old releases... but that doesnt mean that the criterion release will look bad in motion or "wrong"

after all its approved by cronenberg. that should at least mean something.

Yes, Koch Media doesn't look good. I was waiting to see how the Criterion BD would be, but now I'm getting the Subkultur one. Again, thanks to user KowalskiVideo.

[KowalskiVideo]

Originally Posted by FelixFlankin

Does the Trilogy set from Alive feature the same transfer as Subkultur? As I don't have the other two films and it doesn't seem to be too much more.

No, like the 10th time... the trilogy set by Explosive uses the UK/Aussie master and adds bad compression (looks worse than the UK/Aussie disc!) has no special features and is region B looked. The Subkultur disc is region free, use the MGM protection master and has the Stephan Lack interview (which Criterion licensed from Subkultur).

[Oblivion138]

As always, it's important to note that DVDBeaver's screencaps are never very good.

[HotRats]

I don't know if the new documentary on the Criterion touches on it, but it would be nice if they'd included a piece on Cronenberg's involvement in this edition and his choice of colour timing as (from the captures, at least) it appears to be quite a departure from the other versions. Personally, I've nothing against directors continuing to fiddle with their films, though they should bear in mind the painters' maxim about stopping, but equal weight should be given to approximating the look of the theatrical release. If this means two discs, good.